US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Greed and Death]

Working for a news Agency. So it is the liberal media literally having people killed. This will get people riled up on the dark corners of the net.

How much money is anyone willing to put down that some weirdo kills a news reporter over this political shit?

Most likely. Maybe even several.

[Ifreann]

Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Infamous racist fascists Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt had their statues torn down by brave anti-racist peaceful protestors

Kill all statues.

[Valrifell]

Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Infamous racist fascists Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt had their statues torn down by brave anti-racist peaceful protestors

Kill all statues.

Replace all statues with that of Steven Minecraft to commemorate the day he made it into Smash.

[Saiwania]

Why would they hire someone who isn't a licensed security guard? What the hell is up with America these days?

You don't have to pay someone as much if they're unskilled and if you only need someone tough to provide protection, I can see why they made such a hire. The idea that you have to have a license for everything is crazier to me. Such a marketplace is less dynamic and favors only big businesses and those who're most able to put a stop to any competition.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Infamous racist fascists Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt had their statues torn down by brave anti-racist peaceful protestors

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist though. And abe Lincoln didn't have a good track record with native Americans.

[Northern Davincia]

Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Infamous racist fascists Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt had their statues torn down by brave anti-racist peaceful protestors

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist though. And abe Lincoln didn't have a good track record with native Americans.

That doesn't mean their statues should be torn down.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist though. And abe Lincoln didn't have a good track record with native Americans.

That doesn't mean their statues should be torn down.

Never said they should. I'm just saying back then believe it or not, most Americans were racist.

[Valrifell]

That doesn't mean their statues should be torn down.

Never said they should. I'm just saying back then believe it or not, most Americans were racist.

I don't think that was in contention. The point being argued is whether or not we can look back on the people of their time who's attitudes aren't far from normal, and characterize them using modern ethical frameworks.

The leaders of the Confederacy were extreme, even for their time, which is part of the reason why they lacked international support. But Lincoln and Roosevelt were not significantly worse from par in that way.

[Fahran]

That's just what we call active shooters who pretend to be security guards but aren't.

We should have more sympathy for violent men who are out of work and own nothing but guns. Can you suggest a better name?

Who precisely are we talking about here? Most active shooters in the US aren't political ideologues in any genuine sense.

Actual fascists are in short supply given how many people characterize their ideology as anti-fascist.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

That's just what we call active shooters who pretend to be security guards but aren't.

We should have more sympathy for violent men who are out of work and own nothing but guns. Can you suggest a better name?

Who precisely are we talking about here? Most active shooters in the US aren't political ideologues in any genuine sense.

Actual fascists are in short supply given how many people characterize their ideology as anti-fascist.

The 10% of americans who are fascist: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/28-appr ... d=49334079

[Fahran]

The 10% of americans who are fascist: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/28-appr ... d=49334079

The problem is that your article conflates the alt-right and fascism. As can be easily seen from a brief skimming of the article they cited here. The alt-right is an umbrella category that has encompassed a multitude of groups ranging from white supremacists, to fascists, to MRAs, to the Proud Boys, to incels, to anti-SJWs - depending on who you ask. The term is nebulous enough that it can be applied to all manner of people and has pretty much been narrowed to insinuate white supremacist views - which have been in turn equated with fascist views. And, when you survey the American population, you're asking them about a term that has a nebulous meaning to some of them and that means "literally Hitler" to others. It's a bad methodology.

The better approach would be to ask them about specific policies and attitudes without giving them a label or asking them about fascism while defining the actual precepts behind fascism.

[Danzige]

this has gotten out of hand,im not even knowing whats going on due to the biased medias...

And what are we using as proof of bias today?

i dont know what news is right or wrong,therefore i assume some news have slight biases,which is a assumption. i said i dont know whats going on due to the news i see sounds a bit too.. liberal. or conservative.

[Salus Maior]

Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Infamous racist fascists Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt had their statues torn down by brave anti-racist peaceful protestors

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist though. And abe Lincoln didn't have a good track record with native Americans.

Teddy Roosevelt was relatively anti-racist in his time. I know he ran on a platform that was more pro-African American.

And literally no American has a good track record with Native Americans.

[Cordel One]

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist though. And abe Lincoln didn't have a good track record with native Americans.

Teddy Roosevelt was relatively anti-racist in his time. I know he ran on a platform that was more pro-African American.

And literally no American has a good track record with Native Americans.

Relatively anti-racist and not racist are two entirely different things.

[Salus Maior]

Teddy Roosevelt was relatively anti-racist in his time. I know he ran on a platform that was more pro-African American.

And literally no American has a good track record with Native Americans.

Relatively anti-racist and not racist are two entirely different things.

I say relative to our time.

Because there weren't anti-racists in the modern form before now. And certainly not when Teddy was alive.

[Fahran]

Relatively anti-racist and not racist are two entirely different things.

Oddly enough, we can still see reflections of the beliefs held by Theodore Roosevelt in the way we talk about people we view as less refined. In the absence of education and honest intentions, it's not abnormal to hear assertions about how a less advantaged group of people are victims of inbreeding or about how indigenous peoples were and remain "noble savages." Teddy at least had the excuse of his zeitgeist, that such beliefs were common knowledge among even the educated classes. But, alarmingly, the way he wrote about non-white people and the way other progressives wrote about the poor still leaks into even left-wing articles and rhetoric at times.

[Korouse]

"Disproportionate" - silly opinion.

"Disproportionate" would be anything more than necessary to defend oneself from imminent harm.

If someone punched you, for instance, but you didn't think to draw your gun until they were walking away, you've missed your chance to shoot them in "self-defense" since walking away, they pose no more risk to you than a completely innocent person does.

"But they did it once, that means they might do it again if I don't neutralize the threat" ... uh-uh. Tomorrow is not "imminent".

The President, the current government and their supporters are immediate threats to my future and my democratic rights. No need to explain the concept of retribution to me. I stand by what I said - you people hold extremely naive and silly opinions.

[Kowani]

"Disproportionate" would be anything more than necessary to defend oneself from imminent harm.

If someone punched you, for instance, but you didn't think to draw your gun until they were walking away, you've missed your chance to shoot them in "self-defense" since walking away, they pose no more risk to you than a completely innocent person does.

"But they did it once, that means they might do it again if I don't neutralize the threat" ... uh-uh. Tomorrow is not "imminent".

The President, the current government and their supporters are immediate threats to my future and my democratic rights. No need to explain the concept of retribution to me. I stand by what I said - you people hold extremely naive and silly opinions.

Well aren’t you edgy.

[Fahran]

Well aren’t you edgy.

I feel like I'm going to have to work harder to maintain my edginess now.

[Kowani]

Well aren’t you edgy.

I feel like I'm going to have to work harder to maintain my edginess now.

No. Power creep is natural. Let the edginess of the unknowns pass by. They will be forgotten in time.


Also, it’s hella unoriginal and boring.

[Cordel One]

"Disproportionate" would be anything more than necessary to defend oneself from imminent harm.

If someone punched you, for instance, but you didn't think to draw your gun until they were walking away, you've missed your chance to shoot them in "self-defense" since walking away, they pose no more risk to you than a completely innocent person does.

"But they did it once, that means they might do it again if I don't neutralize the threat" ... uh-uh. Tomorrow is not "imminent".

The President, the current government and their supporters are immediate threats to my future and my democratic rights. No need to explain the concept of retribution to me. I stand by what I said - you people hold extremely naive and silly opinions.

This thread runs rampant with those lacking the intellectual capacity to converse with an individual as enlightened as yourself. It is with great displeasure that I must inform you these plebeians most likely do not have the mental capacity to comprehend Rick and Morty, and as such they are not worth your time.

[Fahran]

No. Power creep is natural. Let the edginess of the unknowns pass by. They will be forgotten in time.


Also, it’s hella unoriginal and boring.

Aren't you the nihilist here?

[Kowani]

No. Power creep is natural. Let the edginess of the unknowns pass by. They will be forgotten in time.


Also, it’s hella unoriginal and boring.

Aren't you the nihilist here?

Excuse you, egoist. Which means I don't want to be bored.

[Fahran]

Excuse you, egoist. Which means I don't want to be bored.

I'd suggest soccer or dance. NSG is a surefire way to find boredom.

[Kowani]

Excuse you, egoist. Which means I don't want to be bored.

I'd suggest soccer or dance. NSG is a surefire way to find boredom.

I have done both of those things. I like it here much more.