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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:02 pm


"Killed by a private security guard" not antifa.
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Postby Korouse » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:14 am

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So the “patriot” attacked the guy with a spray and the man defended himself? What’s the problem?

Disproportionate retribution is still bad.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:44 am

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Kowani wrote:Disproportionate retribution is still bad.

"Disproportionate" - silly opinion.


"Disproportionate" would be anything more than necessary to defend oneself from imminent harm.

If someone punched you, for instance, but you didn't think to draw your gun until they were walking away, you've missed your chance to shoot them in "self-defense" since walking away, they pose no more risk to you than a completely innocent person does.

"But they did it once, that means they might do it again if I don't neutralize the threat" ... uh-uh. Tomorrow is not "imminent".
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:12 am

Same reason why it's not self defence if you walk away, get a weapon and then come back.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:25 am

So it turns out the security guard in question actually wasn't licensed to be a security guard. That's a really big oopsie on the part of the TV station, I'm not super well versed in Colorado law but not only is the guy likely to get hit with a murder charge now but I imagine the station is probably gonna sued.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:27 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So it turns out the security guard in question actually wasn't licensed to be a security guard. That's a really big oopsie on the part of the TV station, I'm not super well versed in Colorado law but not only is the guy likely to get hit with a murder charge now but I imagine the station is probably gonna sued.


So how does him not actually being a security guard make it not self defence if the guy maced him?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:29 am

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So it turns out the security guard in question actually wasn't licensed to be a security guard. That's a really big oopsie on the part of the TV station, I'm not super well versed in Colorado law but not only is the guy likely to get hit with a murder charge now but I imagine the station is probably gonna sued.


So how does him not actually being a security guard make it not self defence if the guy maced him?


Because the shooter was already breaking the law and as I touched on earlier Colorado law is fairly similar to Oregon. Shooting someone dead for getting sprayed isn't even remotely enough to pass their criteria for self defense, only the reddest of the red states would even think about allowing such brazen escalations of force.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:00 am

Shooting someone for spraying you with mace does seem like overkill, unless circumstances were particularly threatening.

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Postby Page » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:06 am

Since the wannabe cops and fascists are turning on each other I think all of us leftists should just stay home and chill.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:17 am

Page wrote:Since the wannabe cops and fascists are turning on each other I think all of us leftists should just stay home and chill.


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Page wrote:Since the wannabe cops and fascists are turning on each other I think all of us leftists should just stay home and chill.

Which fascists?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:39 am

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Page wrote:Since the wannabe cops and fascists are turning on each other I think all of us leftists should just stay home and chill.

Which fascists?


That's just what we call active shooters who pretend to be security guards but aren't.

We should have more sympathy for violent men who are out of work and own nothing but guns. Can you suggest a better name?
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Postby Danzige » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:44 am

this has gotten out of hand,im not even knowing whats going on due to the biased medias...

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:56 am

Danzige wrote:this has gotten out of hand,im not even knowing whats going on due to the biased medias...


And what are we using as proof of bias today?
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Postby Aureumterra III » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:56 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aureumterra III wrote:Which fascists?


That's just what we call active shooters who pretend to be security guards but aren't.

We should have more sympathy for violent men who are out of work and own nothing but guns. Can you suggest a better name?

Something other than fascist?

Calling everything fascist removes any meaning to the word, far too many people call everything they don’t like "fascist"
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:57 am

Aureumterra III wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
That's just what we call active shooters who pretend to be security guards but aren't.

We should have more sympathy for violent men who are out of work and own nothing but guns. Can you suggest a better name?

Something other than fascist?

Calling everything fascist removes any meaning to the word, far too many people call everything they don’t like "fascist"


Ok, fine.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:59 am

Valrifell wrote:
Aureumterra III wrote:Something other than fascist?

Calling everything fascist removes any meaning to the word, far too many people call everything they don’t like "fascist"


Ok, fine.

Cryptofascist.


How about "brownshirts" ?
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:03 am

Neanderthaland wrote:

"Killed by a private security guard" not antifa.


Working for a news Agency. So it is the liberal media literally having people killed. This will get people riled up on the dark corners of the net.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:04 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So it turns out the security guard in question actually wasn't licensed to be a security guard. That's a really big oopsie on the part of the TV station, I'm not super well versed in Colorado law but not only is the guy likely to get hit with a murder charge now but I imagine the station is probably gonna sued.


Why would they hire someone who isn't a licensed security guard? What the hell is up with America these days?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:06 am

Aureumterra III wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
That's just what we call active shooters who pretend to be security guards but aren't.

We should have more sympathy for violent men who are out of work and own nothing but guns. Can you suggest a better name?

Something other than fascist?

Calling everything fascist removes any meaning to the word, far too many people call everything they don’t like "fascist"


I mean when you think people who don't agree with you should be jailed or shot and think racial minorities should be run out of town, you're at least bordering on fascism there. I can't help but think fascist when I see the likes of Jacob Wohl saying buzzfeed reporters should be imprisoned.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:06 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:"Killed by a private security guard" not antifa.


Working for a news Agency. So it is the liberal media literally having people killed. This will get people riled up on the dark corners of the net.


How much money is anyone willing to put down that some weirdo kills a news reporter over this political shit?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:07 am

Vassenor wrote:
Danzige wrote:this has gotten out of hand,im not even knowing whats going on due to the biased medias...


And what are we using as proof of bias today?


Not saying that 100% of BLM protesters are riots.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:32 am

Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Infamous racist fascists Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt had their statues torn down by brave anti-racist peaceful protestors
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:34 am

Kexholm Karelia wrote:Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Infamous racist fascists Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt had their statues torn down by brave anti-racist peaceful protestors


It was not immediately clear whether the statues were defaced by protesters involved in the Generational Resistance march.


You really need to actually read the things you cite.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:43 am

Kexholm Karelia wrote:Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Infamous racist fascists Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt had their statues torn down by brave anti-racist peaceful protestors


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I mean, it's not as bad as Woodrow Wilson supporting the KKK, and establishing segregation.
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