US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Fahran]

#RedsUnderTheBed

Vass, aren't you a self-professed socialist? And I don't see you hiding under a bed.

[Northern Davincia]

That’s why I said the right needs to stop supporting police militarization. The minute a communist comes to power, we are the ones that will be hunted, the police have all the resources to carry out an American Cultural Revolution

Communists aren't going to come to power for a very long time in the US, so I think you're safe.

They won't as long as you keep an eye out for them.

[Kowani]

Communists aren't going to come to power for a very long time in the US, so I think you're safe.

They won't as long as you keep an eye out for them.

In your lifetime? Ever.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

#RedsUnderTheBed

Vass, aren't you a self-professed socialist? And I don't see you hiding under a bed.

Socialism isn't limited to Stalin and Mao.

[Fahran]

Socialism isn't limited to Stalin and Mao.

I never said it was. I'm skeptical socialists will achieve any semblance of actual power any time soon because a lot of the theories to which they adhere are antiquated nonsense and because their champions largely seem to be peddling social democracy instead of socialism while giving lip services to socialism. But the reds aren't really hiding under the bed if they're engaging in political debates and have loose-knit street gangs loyal to their broad ideology roaming around these days. They're here. They're just not a credible threat at the moment because their ideas are bad.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Socialism isn't limited to Stalin and Mao.

I never said it was. I'm skeptical socialists will achieve any semblance of actual power any time soon because a lot of the theories to which they adhere are antiquated nonsense and because their champions largely seem to be peddling social democracy instead of socialism while giving lip services to socialism. But the reds aren't really hiding under the bed if they're engaging in political debates and have loose-knit street gangs loyal to their broad ideology roaming around these days. They're here. They're just not a credible threat at the moment because their ideas are bad.

Dismissing your ideological opponents as a credible threat because "their ideas are bad" is a circular argument, which says nothing about the level of threat. It's a rationalization for complacency.

[Fahran]

Dismissing your ideological opponents as a credible threat because "their ideas are bad" is a circular argument, which says nothing about the level of threat. It's a rationalization for complacency.

That's fair. Most people support bad ideas.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Dismissing your ideological opponents as a credible threat because "their ideas are bad" is a circular argument, which says nothing about the level of threat. It's a rationalization for complacency.

That's fair. Most people support bad ideas.

We can each be safe up an ivory tower, but only if we build our own. Sharing with someone else ... not safe at all!

[Fahran]

We can each be safe up an ivory tower, but only if we build our own. Sharing with someone else ... not safe at all!

Well, duh. We're in a pandemic. Hello.

[Northern Davincia]

They won't as long as you keep an eye out for them.

In your lifetime? Ever.

I credit that to my vigilance.

[Kowani]

In your lifetime? Ever.

I credit that to my vigilance.

You're a libertarian in NY. Your vigilance is worth as much as a burnt cookie.

[Korouse]

That’s why I said the right needs to stop supporting police militarization. The minute a communist comes to power, we are the ones that will be hunted, the police have all the resources to carry out an American Cultural Revolution

Communists aren't going to come to power for a very long time in the US, so I think you're safe.

Not many people in the mainstream media thought the largest mass riots in American history would start when a tire shop got torched on May 28th, nor an apocalyptic layer of smoke over the entire West Coast, nor 50 percent of all days here in my state topping at over 100 degrees Fahrenheit. It's time to dispel notions that socialism doesn't have a real chance for power here. Unexpected changes follow more unexpected changes.

[Celritannia]

In related news, my city has a ballot issue this election season to create an independent civilian review board that can appoint an inspector general for the Columbus Division of Police and can also launch and conduct investigations into police abuse and misconduct, including subpoena powers. Seems like a decent step in the right direction to me.

This is a step in the right direction.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

In related news, my city has a ballot issue this election season to create an independent civilian review board that can appoint an inspector general for the Columbus Division of Police and can also launch and conduct investigations into police abuse and misconduct, including subpoena powers. Seems like a decent step in the right direction to me.

This is a step in the right direction.

It's not clear if the Inspector General is supposed to have command power over all the police (and if so ... they're going to need staff) but there's nothing wrong with an independent investigatory body. I guess I would add that they be required to submit a quarterly report to the Governor (a one-way process to avoid government giving them directions of any sort) but maybe they'll do that voluntarily.

[Celritannia]

This is a step in the right direction.

It's not clear if the Inspector General is supposed to have command power over all the police (and if so ... they're going to need staff) but there's nothing wrong with an independent investigatory body. I guess I would add that they be required to submit a quarterly report to the Governor (a one-way process to avoid government giving them directions of any sort) but maybe they'll do that voluntarily.

To me, it seems something akin to Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services For England and Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

[Greater Miami Shores]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

That is bad, really bad.

But to be fair, there must be at least one or more Biden supporters killed by a Trump supporter, I think there was one case that was considered in dispute. I think I recall a poster saying so, I said I think, I did not say for sure as in a fact. I could be wrong about this one, lol. The lol stands for a joke as in I could be wrong on one post, lol again, my favorite expression.

[Kowani]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

Things you should not do: make assertions that are contradicted by your own article. "Police initially said two people were taken into custody but later said one of them was not involved in the incident. They tweeted that the suspect was a private security guard with no affiliation with Antifa."

[Fahran]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

I don't think the article says that anymore.

[The Black Forrest]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

So the “patriot” attacked the guy with a spray and the man defended himself? What’s the problem?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

Police initially said two people were taken into custody but later said one of them was not involved in the incident. They tweeted that the suspect was a private security guard with no affiliation with Antifa.

Lying really undermines any point you were trying to make.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

So the “patriot” attacked the guy with a spray and the man defended himself? What’s the problem?

"Self defense for me but not for thee" is what I'm guessing.

[Kowani]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

So the “patriot” attacked the guy with a spray and the man defended himself? What’s the problem?

Disproportionate retribution is still bad.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Another Trump supporter killed by antifa people

So the “patriot” attacked the guy with a spray and the man defended himself? What’s the problem?

Much like in Oregon it appears to fly in the face of Colorado's self defense laws and will likely end up with a murder charge.

[Albrenia]

Because of paywall and stuff I didn't get to read much of the article, but what I did read seemed to suggest the shooter was an Art Museum security guard, not an Antifa counter-protestor.