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Postby Senkaku » Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:59 pm

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And a lawsuit following bodycam footage that recently got posted on Facebook a year after it occurred.: Karen Garner, a 73 year old woman with dementia, was shopping at Walmart before leaving the store with $14 of merchandise without paying (A Pepsi, a candy bar, a t-shirt, and some Shout Wipe refills). Unable to communicate and confused about what was happening, Walmart employees escorted her back in, where she attempted to pay for the merchandise with a credit card before employees refused. She then left and started walking home before police caught up to her two blocks from her home and wrestled this five-foot-tall 80 pound elderly woman to the ground. She suffered a dislocated shoulder, a broken humerus, and a sprained wrist during the arrest before being held in two jail cells for a total of five hours, presumably without medical treatment since the arresting officers reported that she was not injured.

Elder abuse by police is also a national issue tbh
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:10 pm

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They probably wouldn’t film it if that were the case.

But either way, these idiots are going to get the country burnt down for all the anger that’s building up.


Burning the country down is exactly white supremacists in police departments want. They want to incite a race war. Burning toe country down the one thing that anarchists and white supremacists agree on.


So we're going for "by protesting against police brutality you're giving the white nationalists what they want" now?

This logic is getting tortured.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:13 pm

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Burning the country down is exactly white supremacists in police departments want. They want to incite a race war. Burning toe country down the one thing that anarchists and white supremacists agree on.


So we're going for "by protesting against police brutality you're giving the white nationalists what they want" now?

This logic is getting tortured.


Not at all. Anarchists want class warfare and white supremacists want race warfare. Instability and riots are a good way to start either one.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:32 pm

Here we go again.

13 year old in Chicago is chased by cops, drops his gun from his person as he hops a fence, is apprehended and told to raise his hands. He complies, raises both hands (neither of which carry a weapon), and is shot dead. It's a truly depressing thing to watch, especially since he was 13...

This happened weeks ago and the Chicago PD described the interaction 100% differently than the newly released footage shows it. I anticipate more protests in the Upper Midwest.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:34 pm

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Fuck. We really need to clean all police departments. The old lady is hardly a threat and the frequent "I'm going home" kind of indicates there is a problem. The female cop needs to go as well. If you get pissed at the ramblings of an old woman, you should be in this line of work.


Every one of these stories I hear I get left wondering how many got left unknown to the public. How many of these occurrences have been covered up or weren't caught on video or witnessed?

Every one of these stories I grow more and more convinced that there is no such thing as a good cop because the good cops would've arrested the bad cops by now. I grow more and more convinced that there is no amount of training that can fix this. Body cameras were supposed to be a safeguard against police brutality but time and time again the police have shown that they don't care if they're on camera - they will brutalize and murder people anyway. They have no fear and I don't see a way we can fix an organization that's this broken.

Police forces in their current state are the biggest, deadliest gang in the United States and they're a danger to the public, a threat to the rest of us. They're becoming more and more militarized (this militarization has ramped up under Biden, accelerating faster than Trump's last year in office) and they're open to the use of chemical weapons against the public. They're emboldened by civil unrest caused by their brutality and respond with further brutality.

I don't know how we fix this, or even if it's possible to fix this or if it's gotten too far that police will literally kill all of us if we try to take their power away from them. I fear for the future and wish I lived in a better country.


A lot of stories go unnoticed. I've heard some truly enraging stories from the Indigenous community in my area, and the inability for them to take any legal action or to raise their voice without being dismissed because of their socio-economic status and the perceptions of their community within our PD.

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:36 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
They probably wouldn’t film it if that were the case.

But either way, these idiots are going to get the country burnt down for all the anger that’s building up.


Burning the country down is exactly white supremacists in police departments want. They want to incite a race war. Burning toe country down the one thing that anarchists and white supremacists agree on.


I would say don’t attribute malice to what you can attribute to stupidity.

Even if it is deadly stupidity.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:03 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
They probably wouldn’t film it if that were the case.

But either way, these idiots are going to get the country burnt down for all the anger that’s building up.


Burning the country down is exactly white supremacists in police departments want. They want to incite a race war. Burning toe country down the one thing that anarchists and white supremacists agree on.

Yes, all the white nationalists in every police department in the country have coordinated a vast conspiracy, and the only way to stop them is to... lay down and let the cops murder whoever they want without complaint.

Do you ever read your own posts?
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:08 pm

Senkaku wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Burning the country down is exactly white supremacists in police departments want. They want to incite a race war. Burning toe country down the one thing that anarchists and white supremacists agree on.

Yes, all the white nationalists in every police department in the country have coordinated a vast conspiracy, and the only way to stop them is to... lay down and let the cops murder whoever they want without complaint.

Do you ever read your own posts?


I don’t think he’s saying people shouldn’t oppose the police.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:10 pm

Cops shooting an unarmed kid and lying about him having a gun. How do you reform that?
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:11 pm

Ifreann wrote:Cops shooting an unarmed kid and lying about him having a gun. How do you reform that?


By ensuring such people lose their badge and end up in prison, as a first step.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:11 pm

Ifreann wrote:Cops shooting an unarmed kid and lying about him having a gun. How do you reform that?


Giving kids free guns and body armor to shoot back.
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Almost half of the federal cases against Portland’s rioters have been dismissed

Federal prosecutors in Portland, Ore., have moved to dismiss almost half the cases they charged in connection with violence accompanying last year’s protests over racial injustice, as authorities grapple with how to tamp down politically motivated unrest that has arisen since then.

Of 96 cases the U.S. attorney’s office in Portland filed last year charging protesters with federal crimes, including assaulting federal officers, civil disorder, and failing to obey, prosecutors have dropped 47 of them, government documents show. Ten people have pleaded guilty to related charges and two were ordered detained pending trial. None have gone to trial.

The penalties levied so far against any federal defendants, most of whom were arrested in clashes around federal buildings in Portland including the courthouse, have largely consisted of community service, such as working in a food bank or encouraging people to vote. More than half of the around 30 so-called deferred resolution deals, in which prosecutors ask the court to drop cases once defendants complete volunteer work, were initiated last fall under the Trump administration, interviews and a review of cases shows. Prosecutors have continued to pursue such deals under President Biden.

Senior Trump Justice Department officials had pushed prosecutors to be aggressive in bringing a full slate of federal charges, including possibly sedition and racketeering, The Wall Street Journal previously reported, but no such charges were filed.

Alternative resolution agreements aren’t uncommon in criminal cases, said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender in Portland. “What’s unusual is to have so many cases brought in at once that merit this treatment,” she said.[…]
Federal law-enforcement officials said they tried to use criminal charges last year to deter the nightly violence. “All of our cases are handled on their own merits and our prosecutors have broad discretion on how each is resolved,” Mr. Sonoff said. The government reviewed some cases and agreed no crime was committed or found other reasons to drop the charges, Ms. Hay, the public defender, said. “Many of these cases originated in chaos and darkness, after officers charged out of the federal courthouse at night and arrested people who had not dispersed,” she said.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:22 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:And apparently Daunte Wright was pulled over because he had an air freshner hanging from his rearview? Is that really what we're shooting people for now?


Pulled for the air freshner, drove off and was shot after it turned out there was a warrant out for him.


Hm. What do you suppose would have happened if he had walked into a store, refused to wear a mask, assaulted a store employee who asked him to wear one, got in his car after being detained by police, drove off with one policeman hanging to his window and hit that cop in the head with a hammer?

Oh and what do you suppose would have happened if he had been white?

Same state, different worlds?

Oh, Daunte Wright had a warrant, so? Please. Just please.

When the officer tried to stop his vehicle, the man led him in what Gifferson described as "a slow speed pursuit" in the area of the Hutchinson mall near Hwy. 15 and S. Grade Road.

The vehicle soon stopped near Hwy. 15 and Freemont Avenue. When the officer tried to engage the suspect through the driver's side window, the suspect took off "at a high rate of speed" with the officer trapped and hanging from the window, Gifferson said. During the struggle, the suspect hit the officer in the head with a hammer, he said.

The officer is hospitalized in stable condition, and the suspect was arrested, police said.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:31 pm

Kannap wrote:16-year-old Peyton Ham shot and killed by police officer in Maryland.

Baltimore corruption trial reveals Baltimore police carried toy guns to plant on people they shot and killed.

And a lawsuit following bodycam footage that recently got posted on Facebook a year after it occurred.: Karen Garner, a 73 year old woman with dementia, was shopping at Walmart before leaving the store with $14 of merchandise without paying (A Pepsi, a candy bar, a t-shirt, and some Shout Wipe refills). Unable to communicate and confused about what was happening, Walmart employees escorted her back in, where she attempted to pay for the merchandise with a credit card before employees refused. She then left and started walking home before police caught up to her two blocks from her home and wrestled this five-foot-tall 80 pound elderly woman to the ground. She suffered a dislocated shoulder, a broken humerus, and a sprained wrist during the arrest before being held in two jail cells for a total of five hours, presumably without medical treatment since the arresting officers reported that she was not injured.

Crickets from the pro-cop crowd.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:26 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Cops shooting an unarmed kid and lying about him having a gun. How do you reform that?


Giving kids free guns and body armor to shoot back.

Holy based.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:12 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:And apparently Daunte Wright was pulled over because he had an air freshner hanging from his rearview? Is that really what we're shooting people for now?


Pulled for the air freshner, drove off and was shot after it turned out there was a warrant out for him.

And the warrant was for violating one of those "Common sense Gun Laws" that everyone says saves lives.
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Postby Stylan » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:13 pm

Ifreann wrote:Cops shooting an unarmed kid and lying about him having a gun. How do you reform that?

You don't.
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Postby Stylan » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:14 pm

If Biden bungles his response to this it will further radicalize the youth who have already been thrown into leftist politics through Covid and the Floyd riots.

It's just a matter of time before the tides turn in communism's favor.
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Stylan wrote:If Biden bungles his response to this it will further radicalize the youth who have already lived through the 08 crisis, Covid, OWS, the Floyd riots, and now this.

It's just a matter of time before the tides turn in communism's favor.

Communism ceased to be a serious threat since the USSR collapsed.
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Picairn wrote:
Stylan wrote:If Biden bungles his response to this it will further radicalize the youth who have already lived through the 08 crisis, Covid, OWS, the Floyd riots, and now this.

It's just a matter of time before the tides turn in communism's favor.

Communism ceased to be a serious threat since the USSR collapsed.

Not according to the US military.

Also:

"The number of young Americans who have a favorable view of Marxism has increased five-fold in just one year. According to the new survey, nearly one-third of the members of Gen Z – Americans between the ages of 16 and 23 – say “Marxism” deserves our support. The term’s favorability has skyrocketed to 30 percent of Gen Z respondents, up from 6 percent in 2019."

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:53 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Pulled for the air freshner, drove off and was shot after it turned out there was a warrant out for him.

And the warrant was for violating one of those "Common sense Gun Laws" that everyone says saves lives.


I agree, it's dumb, Black Americans should be encouraged to use their 2nd Amendment rights as frequently as possible because of how broken this country is.

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:57 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Kannap wrote:16-year-old Peyton Ham shot and killed by police officer in Maryland.

Baltimore corruption trial reveals Baltimore police carried toy guns to plant on people they shot and killed.

And a lawsuit following bodycam footage that recently got posted on Facebook a year after it occurred.: Karen Garner, a 73 year old woman with dementia, was shopping at Walmart before leaving the store with $14 of merchandise without paying (A Pepsi, a candy bar, a t-shirt, and some Shout Wipe refills). Unable to communicate and confused about what was happening, Walmart employees escorted her back in, where she attempted to pay for the merchandise with a credit card before employees refused. She then left and started walking home before police caught up to her two blocks from her home and wrestled this five-foot-tall 80 pound elderly woman to the ground. She suffered a dislocated shoulder, a broken humerus, and a sprained wrist during the arrest before being held in two jail cells for a total of five hours, presumably without medical treatment since the arresting officers reported that she was not injured.

Crickets from the pro-cop crowd.


Not all folks who are pro-cop are anti-black, but just about everyone who is anti-black is pro-cop.

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Fifth night of protests outside the Brooklyn Center PD HQ; rumors of planned mass arrests as curfew approaches. Live feed from independent journalists Unicorn Riot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opzhWUFspfo
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:06 pm

Picairn wrote:
Stylan wrote:If Biden bungles his response to this it will further radicalize the youth who have already lived through the 08 crisis, Covid, OWS, the Floyd riots, and now this.

It's just a matter of time before the tides turn in communism's favor.

Communism ceased to be a serious threat since the USSR collapsed.

You say this, but fail to look at the younger generations.
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