US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I remember seeing some white protesters going to the Oakland BLM marches saying "we're there to protect the black protesters cause our whiteness stands as a shield between them and state violence" and I said "if only you knew how wrong you were."

[Cynetia]

Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

[Atheris]

Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

Anarchy! It's fun, you should try it sometime!

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

Well they tried peaceful protesting and the police beat them down. If peaceful protests aren't accepted, violence is inevitable.

Btw burning down the third precinct in Minneapolis had a purpose. The people abusing people's rights had a headquarters there so the mob ran them out and destroyed the place they work out of anger. You don't have to agree with it to understand why it happened. But don't stand around calling for peace when people get bent out of shape about ppl peacefully protesting too. People flipped out when Colin kapernick knelt to the American theme song for God's sake.

[Esalia]

Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

Violence is a fairly good tool to get what you want, whether in the idealistic (riot to force the government to listen to and support your cause, especially when peaceful measures fail) or opportunistic (riot because violence is fun and why not steal some stuff whilst you can) sense.

[Kowani]

Who is born a cop? That's kind of a requirement for a "blue life" to be a thing.

I don't think #BlackLivesMatter and #BlueLivesMatter have to be contradictory. Folks dying due to preventable and often, if we're being frank, stupid violence is never a good thing. I'm mostly salty that people keep bringing up #BlueLives when the conversation is about #BlackLives because that's a red herring that solely distracts from the conversation at hand unless someone's actually going to make a point about cops being endangered by proposed policy changes or rhetoric.

when has anyone ever said "#BlueLivesMatter" when it wasn't to distract from police brutality
it's not an honest slogan in the slightest

Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

notice how Kaepernick isn't playing in the NFL anymore?

[Senkaku]

Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

That if the state doesn't change its ways, you'll threaten its legitimacy and monopoly on violence?

[Greater Cesnica]

Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

That if the state doesn't change its ways, you'll threaten its legitimacy and monopoly on violence?

Thus, it is a justified tactic.

[Kowani]

Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

"Why do people riot?"

[Gravlen]

I feel like the attention given to Rittenhouse has been disproportionate, but since there's various reasons for that, I'm feeding the beast with this video:

Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting: He's Not the Problem. A Legal Analysis.

It's an interesting perspective, looking a bit wider than just the specific case, and explaining a bit more about the place this case holds in the criminal justice system. That's a perspective which is more interesting to me. Here's her first video, which she references. The older video goes more directly into the case, but I didn't like as much because I felt it was too superficial.

Sorry I had to wait to get home to watch your link. I have now done so.

This video was much better than the first one (I had seen it already). I also like what she said about the grand jury and how the fact many states allow the prosecutor to skip it is a travesty (including Wisconsin).

I also liked her pointing out that most of the people mad at Kyle aren’t mad at Kyle, but at the unjust system. They want the system to punish Kyle not because he’s some monster, she pointed out how that’s not true, but he’s become a symbol of the injustice of the system. Essentially, they are being placated by the system by the system publicly being as unjust towards him as it has been against many young black teens throughout the years.

It’s a deflection strategy. If they crucify Rittenhouse to placate the crowd, they don’t have to actually do anything about what the crowd is angry about.

I thought that was very insightful.

By the way, here's a new video by the same lawyer asking some good questions concerning the issuing of the no-knock warrant which led to the death of Breonna Taylor. I think it's worth a watch as well.

[Ifreann]

Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

Pretty concerning how badly these Republicans seem to want to kill protesters.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

Pretty concerning how badly these Republicans seem to want to kill protesters.

Donald Trump: "We are the party of free thought."

The GOP: "Run BLM demonstrators down."

[Gravlen]

Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

Pretty concerning how badly these Republicans seem to want to kill protesters.

It is, but it's all a part of a larger anti-democratic trend in the GOP.

[Kowani]

Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

The shootings are the tip of the iceberg. The police abuse their power every day.

[Greater Cesnica]

Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

The shootings are the tip of the iceberg. The police abuse their power every day.

But don't you understand, the officer was taunted by the little girl and he was fearful of his ego being harmed! Completely justified.

[Ors Might]

Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

Absolutely disgusting but I’m distracted by the fact that Youtube is saying that this is a video made for kids..

[New Eclium]

Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

Absolutely disgusting but I’m distracted by the fact that Youtube is saying that this is a video made for kids..

gotta teach 'em young

[Kowani]

Arizona House of Representatives passes bill requiring a conviction before the police can seize your assets (57-2)

Billtext here


civil forfeiture is bullshit

[Greater Cesnica]

Arizona House of Representatives passes bill requiring a conviction before the police can seize your assets (57-2)

Billtext here


civil forfeiture is bullshit

Good on Arizona for this good step. I would hope this sets a chilling precedent against property confiscations nationwide, including firearms seizures.

[Kowani]

Protests at the George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis ahead of Derek Chauvin’s trial, one person shot dead

[Galloism]

Protests at the George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis ahead of Derek Chauvin’s trial, one person shot dead

Crap. Next week is going to suck.

Everyone needs to chill the fuck out.

[Neanderthaland]

Protests at the George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis ahead of Derek Chauvin’s trial, one person shot dead

Fuck.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Protests at the George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis ahead of Derek Chauvin’s trial, one person shot dead

Sadly, the only thing I find surprising here is that the shooting happened before the trial and not immediately after.