US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Borderlands of Rojava]

^_Rojava, i do not know. i do not agree. bear in mind ‘insincere’ critic toward mild criticism is possibly worse than ‘insincerity’ of furnished mild opposition, if futile.

if you sincerely believe pull out of troops from syria (some hundreds of people, perhaps?) was something meaningful, apart lightly growing death tool of left soldiers, discussion is unworthy.

if you watch syrian genocide with complacency, it is appropriate that you get that ‘president’.

So we should stay in Syria because "there will be genocide otherwise?"

Things usually get worse when we send our troops somewhere. Not better, bring the soldiers home.

[Saiwania]

I keep thinking I’m reading this wrong, who contacts the Proud Boys?

Someone who already tried contacting actual law enforcement and was met with an 'you're on your own', doesn't have the money to employ mercenaries and knows that if they personally used force to defend themselves and their property, they'd never get anything approaching a fair trial. This leaves contacting ideological maniacs who'll do it for free, no matter their other antisocial eccentricities.

It nicely lines up with this meme from Tom & Jerry. This black cat answers the phone and says: "Yeah, yeah, okay." Then gets up and says "Come on boys, we've got a job!" The Proud Boys in this case are the 3 thugs sent to remove this mouse. I guess we'll see if they're successful or not against Antifa or whoever is causing trouble?

[Fahran]

Not surprised. The media's "resistance" to Trump was in bad faith from day one and not done out of a place of anti authoritarian love for freedom, but out of a selfish desire to spite the guy who hurt their egos by insulting and degrading them in front of thousands of people. It's why Kamala's history as the CEO of mass incarceration and judicial system corruption wasn't reported on by the media until Tulsi Gabbard called out the elephant in the room at the Democratic debate. It's also why the media was portraying trump's troop pullout from Syria (the one that never even happened) in a negative light, while criticizing foreign intervention under Bush a mere ten years prior. You don't have to like or respect Trump (I hate his guts) to know that the opposition can be awful in their own respects. I believe in the freedom of the press but the mainstream media in this country is made up of some of the worst of the worst people in our society. I think it takes a similar mindset to make it in media as it takes to make it in government.

This is one of the most based takes you've ever had, friendo.

[Insaanistan]

Black and Latino people have historically legally and in practice been held back and kept poor. This continues today. Poor people are more likely to result to violence.
Additionally, it’s not just them killing a minority suspect, it’s shooting the black dude running away because the police “felt threatened” or shooting them because “it looked like that phone was a gun” or “we just thought they had a gun” or shooting a black woman for sleeping and more that we say, “Yeah... this is racism.” It’s not just because a white dude killed a black dude.

Is there racism in the US, yes, not much different than most other countries around the world. I've seen racism in todays Europe and Latin America firsthand. I am a minority in the US. The only thing that holds back any minority in the US is ignorance. Can ignorance be cured in the US, never.

I am also a minority in the US. Ignorance certainly plays a role, but it most certainly is NOT the only thing holding us back.

[Novus America]

Isn't this shit the reason why BLM exists? I'm surprised the tyranny goes on even after the protests.

Umm having a few protests and riots does not fix things. BLM points out a problem, but has failed to successfully advance a reasonable solution, especially as they tend to support the political establishment in the cities.

This is the bizarre self defeating fact here, people in cities will protest the police, but then overwhelming re-elect the same people from the same party machines that failed to solve the problems. The same people who are responsible for the police.

Saying how things are bad while voting to keep them the same is obviously not going to work.

[Kowani]

Louisville police seek to fire 2 more of the detectives in the Breonna Taylor case

[The Three Palins]

Black and Latino people have historically legally and in practice been held back and kept poor. This continues today. Poor people are more likely to result to violence.
Additionally, it’s not just them killing a minority suspect, it’s shooting the black dude running away because the police “felt threatened” or shooting them because “it looked like that phone was a gun” or “we just thought they had a gun” or shooting a black woman for sleeping and more that we say, “Yeah... this is racism.” It’s not just because a white dude killed a black dude.

Is there racism in the US, yes, not much different than most other countries around the world. I've seen racism in todays Europe and Latin America firsthand. I am a minority in the US. The only thing that holds back any minority in the US is ignorance. Can ignorance be cured in the US, never.

Sure it can. Insert a Wikipedia chip in their brain, with a negative stimulus function. When ignorance literally hurts, they'll study up in a hurry.

[The Three Palins]

Louisville police seek to fire 2 more of the detectives in the Breonna Taylor case

A bit slow there, but I guess it's saving face. Better late than never, also how about some prosecutions?

[Freiheit Reich]

Police Keep Arresting Innocent White People (Shocker):

I hate these race focused titles. I can create one as well and it would also be factual but divisive. Below is a good book (and it is a true story) about 2 white men arrested in a small Oklahoma town because the police and prosecutor were desperate to pin the murder on someone and used crooked ways to get confessions. The people were a bit simple-minded and easier to fool. This is an excellent book and everybody needs to read it to know how crooked the justice system is. I can easily find countless other cases about innocent European-Americans and Hispanic-Americans arrested and put in jail as well by crooked police officers and aggressive prosecutors. Let us change the title to Police Keep Arresting Innocent People (Shocker).

The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innoc ... Small_Town

[Washington Resistance Army]

Police Keep Arresting Innocent White People (Shocker):

I hate these race focused titles. I can create one as well and it would also be factual but divisive. Below is a good book (and it is a true story) about 2 white men arrested in a small Oklahoma town because the police and prosecutor were desperate to pin the murder on someone and used crooked ways to get confessions. The people were a bit simple-minded and easier to fool. This is an excellent book and everybody needs to read it to know how crooked the justice system is. I can easily find countless other cases about innocent European-Americans and Hispanic-Americans arrested and put in jail as well by crooked police officers and aggressive prosecutors. Let us change the title to Police Keep Arresting Innocent People (Shocker).

The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innoc ... Small_Town

This kind of response is exactly why the title needs to be race focused.

[Esalia]

Police Keep Arresting Innocent White People (Shocker):

I hate these race focused titles. I can create one as well and it would also be factual but divisive. Below is a good book (and it is a true story) about 2 white men arrested in a small Oklahoma town because the police and prosecutor were desperate to pin the murder on someone and used crooked ways to get confessions. The people were a bit simple-minded and easier to fool. This is an excellent book and everybody needs to read it to know how crooked the justice system is. I can easily find countless other cases about innocent European-Americans and Hispanic-Americans arrested and put in jail as well by crooked police officers and aggressive prosecutors. Let us change the title to Police Keep Arresting Innocent People (Shocker).

The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innoc ... Small_Town

Is it just me, or do the white victims of police brutality only ever seem to get trotted out in opposition to BLM?

[Romextly]

Black lives do matter. The organization has some questions though.

[Novus America]

Police Keep Arresting Innocent White People (Shocker):

I hate these race focused titles. I can create one as well and it would also be factual but divisive. Below is a good book (and it is a true story) about 2 white men arrested in a small Oklahoma town because the police and prosecutor were desperate to pin the murder on someone and used crooked ways to get confessions. The people were a bit simple-minded and easier to fool. This is an excellent book and everybody needs to read it to know how crooked the justice system is. I can easily find countless other cases about innocent European-Americans and Hispanic-Americans arrested and put in jail as well by crooked police officers and aggressive prosecutors. Let us change the title to Police Keep Arresting Innocent People (Shocker).

The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innoc ... Small_Town

Is it just me, or do the white victims of police brutality only ever seem to get trotted out in opposition to BLM?

I am not sure that is true, the fact the BLM tends to ignore when black people are murdered by black people who are not police.
If I a black man and shot two black men to death in Baltimore City, it would only make the local evening news at best.

[Novus America]

Black lives do matter. The organization has some questions though.

It is not an organization though. It is a loose movement.
But I do agree, Black Lives Matter, but the the BLM movement has not actually saved any black lives.

Herein lies the problem.

[The Alma Mater]

Is it just me, or do the white victims of police brutality only ever seem to get trotted out in opposition to BLM?

I am not sure that is true, the fact the BLM tends to ignore when black people are murdered by black people who are not police.
If I was black, and shot two black people to death in Baltimore City, it would only make the local evening news at best.

There is of course a rather fundamental difference between criminals killing blacks and representatives of the state killing blacks.
Well, two fundamental differences. The second one being that usually some effort is made to punish the criminals.

[Freiheit Reich]

Police Keep Arresting Innocent White People (Shocker):

I hate these race focused titles. I can create one as well and it would also be factual but divisive. Below is a good book (and it is a true story) about 2 white men arrested in a small Oklahoma town because the police and prosecutor were desperate to pin the murder on someone and used crooked ways to get confessions. The people were a bit simple-minded and easier to fool. This is an excellent book and everybody needs to read it to know how crooked the justice system is. I can easily find countless other cases about innocent European-Americans and Hispanic-Americans arrested and put in jail as well by crooked police officers and aggressive prosecutors. Let us change the title to Police Keep Arresting Innocent People (Shocker).

The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innoc ... Small_Town

This kind of response is exactly why the title needs to be race focused.

Because only black people matter right? I want to live in a colorblind society where all lives matter. I want headlines to stop focusing on race and for people to be treated based on their merit. I want it to be considered uncivilized for all people to use the 'N' word and not just non-blacks. The media never wants this to happen because dividing the people by race will sell more papers. The government also loves racial division because they can use it to their advantage to gain votes.

I suppose I am racist for these views because wanting equality for all races is now considered a racist position. In the new America, up is now down, left is now right, and racist is now anti-racist.

[Esalia]

Is it just me, or do the white victims of police brutality only ever seem to get trotted out in opposition to BLM?

I am not sure that is true, the fact the BLM tends to ignore when black people are murdered by black people who are not police.
If I was black, and shot two black people to death in Baltimore City, it would only make the local evening news at best.

BLM ignoring when black people are murdered by other black people is arguably fair if their primary or sole focus is on the deaths from police brutality. If their focus is all black deaths, there's more of a point there.

It's just that in my own experience, the majority of the times I see black victims of police brutality get brought out, it's to actually argue about police brutality and how something needs to be done. The majority of the times I see white victims of police brutality get brought out, it's mainly to sling shit at BLM for not focusing on those victims of police brutality, rather than to argue about police brutality and how something needs to be done.

[Mordka]

Who cares the police are doing their jobs. If you ask me there should be less restrictions for the police and they have the right to break into homes and arrest or kill anybody they want to, and those that would disagree should be lined up to a wall and shot.

[Washington Resistance Army]

This kind of response is exactly why the title needs to be race focused.

Because only black people matter right? I want to live in a colorblind society where all lives matter. I want headlines to stop focusing on race and for people to be treated based on their merit. I want it to be considered uncivilized for all people to use the 'N' word and not just non-blacks. The media never wants this to happen because dividing the people by race will sell more papers. The government also loves racial division because they can use it to their advantage to gain votes.

I suppose I am racist for these views because wanting equality for all races is now considered a racist position. In the new America, up is now down, left is now right, and racist is now anti-racist.

No, you're racist because you try to downplay things that are faced in higher numbers by minority groups solely because they're minorities.

[Freiheit Reich]

I am not sure that is true, the fact the BLM tends to ignore when black people are murdered by black people who are not police.
If I was black, and shot two black people to death in Baltimore City, it would only make the local evening news at best.

There is of course a rather fundamental difference between criminals killing blacks and representatives of the state killing blacks.
Well, two fundamental differences. The second one being that usually some effort is made to punish the criminals.

Police brutality and the screwy criminal justice system are serious problems that need to be addressed. However, when race is brought into the argument, many people will now side against the movement because they feel it is racist even if they also agree these are serious problems. BLM says to me that non-blacks are inferior (just as other black focused groups do). It is hard to support a movement that says I am inferior.

[Kowani]

There is of course a rather fundamental difference between criminals killing blacks and representatives of the state killing blacks.
Well, two fundamental differences. The second one being that usually some effort is made to punish the criminals.

Police brutality and the screwy criminal justice system are serious problems that need to be addressed. However, when race is brought into the argument, many people will now side against the movement because they feel it is racist even if they also agree these are serious problems. BLM says to me that non-blacks are inferior (just as other black focused groups do). It is hard to support a movement that says I am inferior.

the movement focused on stopping the police from brutally killing black people makes you feel inferior

[Freiheit Reich]

Police Keep Arresting Innocent White People (Shocker):

I hate these race focused titles. I can create one as well and it would also be factual but divisive. Below is a good book (and it is a true story) about 2 white men arrested in a small Oklahoma town because the police and prosecutor were desperate to pin the murder on someone and used crooked ways to get confessions. The people were a bit simple-minded and easier to fool. This is an excellent book and everybody needs to read it to know how crooked the justice system is. I can easily find countless other cases about innocent European-Americans and Hispanic-Americans arrested and put in jail as well by crooked police officers and aggressive prosecutors. Let us change the title to Police Keep Arresting Innocent People (Shocker).

The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innoc ... Small_Town

Is it just me, or do the white victims of police brutality only ever seem to get trotted out in opposition to BLM?

No. The book was written by a former lawyer and now a famous author. The book was written before BLM started and I think the author just realizes the problems in the criminal justice system. It is an interesting case (among far too many similar cases among all races). Reading this book made me more aware of the serious problems and made me care more simply because it provides more details than simply reading 3 paragraphs in a newspaper would.

However, I will agree that racism adds another element to the toxic mix and it can't be ignored. Every case is different. The police are arresting too many innocent people and this problem needs to be fixed BUT without blindly assuming all police are bad or killing innocent police officers (as some gentlemen feel is the appropriate action).

2016 shooting of Dallas police officers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shoo ... e_officers

[Romextly]

Who cares the police are doing their jobs. If you ask me there should be less restrictions for the police and they have the right to break into homes and arrest or kill anybody they want to, and those that would disagree should be lined up to a wall and shot.

I'm sorry what?

[Page]

Black activists vocally condemned the police murder of Daniel Shaver, a white man, while most white people were apathetic. Same goes for that Australian woman who was murdered by the cops after calling 911 - not a fucking peep from white America, so I don't want to hear that BLM doesn't care about non-black police victims.

[Freiheit Reich]

Who cares the police are doing their jobs. If you ask me there should be less restrictions for the police and they have the right to break into homes and arrest or kill anybody they want to, and those that would disagree should be lined up to a wall and shot.

I'm sorry what?

Possibly sarcasm or someone that favors communism or fascism. Plenty of leaders nations run their countries like this so it is not a surprise to find people on NSG that think this way.