US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Cultural Posadism]

These "oppressed victims" get ZERO sympathy from me. FOUR MORE YEARS.

Dude you've already said this multiple times in the past few months. And you've previously admitted that you hate black people.

At this point, those sorts of statements on your part are just you latching onto excuses to retroactively justify your prejudices. Typical of fascism, really.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

The injustice of people who are not posing a threat to officers being killed is equal for every case, whatever their race.

The killing of black people by officers has another layer of injustice on top: it's that it happens to black people disproportionately.

If someone really believes that the second kind of injustice does not exist, or does not matter, and they want to take to the streets protesting white victims with a message like "all lives matter, white just as much as black, so I am outraged that white people are not getting equally bad treatment from police" ... then what's stopping them?

The idea that BLM protesters are hypocrites for protesting about a double injustice but not protesting about a single injustice, is just the pathetic demand for someone else to go protest so they can watch it from safety behind a screen. Or more likely, the projection of hypocrisy onto strangers they've never met.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

These "oppressed victims" get ZERO sympathy from me. FOUR MORE YEARS.

Dude you've already said this multiple times in the past few months. And you've previously admitted that you hate black people.

At this point, those sorts of statements on your part are just you latching onto excuses to retroactively justify your prejudices. Typical of fascism, really.

I think it's ironic that he calls BLM racist when he himself has some some very xenophobic things.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

There was a riot in Brooklyn last night btw.

[Vassenor]

There was a riot in Brooklyn last night btw.

Was this related to the NYPD going all in as a political mouth piece or was that a different borough?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

There was a riot in Brooklyn last night btw.

Was this related to the NYPD going all in as a political mouth piece or was that a different borough?

I don't know tbh. What I do know is there's a whole history of reasons why many New Yorkers aren't fans of the NYPD.

[Ifreann]

Why exactly should the cops be better paid?

My dad once told me you get what you pay for. Maybe the reason why cops don't do their job's correctly is because the good ones aren't paid enough. I don't believe in a overall pay raise, rather the good ones rewarded better. I also believe in more community involment.

Cops aren't killing unarmed black people because they're underpaid, that's ridiculous.

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Why exactly should the cops be better paid?

Because then you attract better candidates for the job.

Do you?

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Imagine living in a world where you think the solution to police brutality is 4 more years of Mr. "Law and Order" that wants to clamp down even harder. Like solving the problem of a burning building by trying to burn it faster.

The other thing I find to be unusual is how passionate GHK is on this topic.

I don't want to be like "hurr you're a foreigner you can't have an opinion", but has GHK ever traveled to or lived in the US? I feel like he doesn't understand the cultural issues that the US has, and gets a distorted image of American society through the Internet.

Race relations are a huge thing in American history and society. Race riots have been going on here for a long time.

A detailed explanation is in order.

Firstly, it's not just America. BLM has sprung up in other Western countries such as the UK and Australia that are so far removed from the violence in America.

Secondly, BLM is but one aspect of the woke, intersectional Left. I condemn it as part of a larger leftist trend just as I condemn the Western, identitarian Left as a whole. Why do I hate BLM with such a burning passion? My contempt for BLM ties into a broader hatred and contempt I have toward the Left in general. The two are inseparable. So I'll explain why I despise the Left instead because its influence and effects on society are so pervasive it would be difficult to bring up certain topics such as BLM without also discussing the Left as a whole.

Just going to copypaste this here:

Several years of being told Islam is superior and no one is allowed to challenge the supremacy of Islam and living under a racist, Islamist dictatorship that rigged multiple elections and cracked down on political dissent really took its toll on me after a few years. Seeing how much freedom Americans enjoy from a distance and how they can easily make fun of Islam without fear of reprisals and comparing their freedom to my own country where people who mock Islam are jailed for more than ten years at a time only added to that anger. Seeing Malaysians, Singaporeans, and Muslims, and many woke leftists and feminists, justify the Charlie Hebdo terror attacks and engage in victim-blaming and whataboutisms was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I have had absolutely nothing but hatred and contempt for radical Islam and the Left since then for their complicity in throwing non-Muslims in the Muslim world like me under the bus because criticizing Islam is "racist" and "Islamophobic".

Privileged, white, intersectional leftists who never have to worry about going hungry have unilaterally declared that Muslims are the "victims" of "white supremacy" and "systemic racism" even though they've been oppressing us for years and years. Nope. They're the victims now. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Muslims can do no wrong because they happen to have brown skin. They're so oppressed and helpless they need good old whitey to save them. They don't know what they're doing and they need guidance. This is so not racist and condescending at all.

The same goes for African-Americans and BLM. The same goes for Palestinians and BDS. The same goes for women and MeToo. The same goes for illegal immigrants and mass immigration, particularly of Muslims. All of these alleged "victims" are backed and defended by the very same, woke, intersectional leftists because Orange Man Bad or something. The Left doesn't give a fuck about Jews or Malaysian Chinese or Asian-Americans unless they can use us to bash Trump. They don't fucking care about us one bit.

Not to mention they're simping for the religion and ideology of my oppressors. The very people who are jailing and threatening anyone who dares speak out against their religion in my country and across the Muslim world are "victims" despite being in government and being the majority while leftists in the West attempt to deflect and change the topic to Western imperialism in the Middle East or something at best and label us racist, Islamophobic bigots for calling out Muslim bigotry and standing with Charlie Hebdo at worst. We are having our voices silenced or otherwise ignored by woke leftists and Islamists alike.

Wokeness and intersectionality that grants blacks, Arabs, Muslims, and women a free leg up and a free pass to do as they please solely on the grounds of skin color, creed, or gender while whites, men, Christians, Jews, and East Asians are routinely scapegoated for everything that goes wrong and we are constantly told to "check our privilege" and reminded of just how racist, sexist, and Islamophobic we are runs counter to my core, liberal values of equality of opportunity, individual merit, and my staunch opposition to racism, sexism, antisemitism, and bigotry. The Left throws East Asians and non-Muslims like me under the bus and insults the intelligence of actual, thinking, liberal Muslims and ex-Muslims such as Maajid Nawaz, Salman Rushdie, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali and deems them to be Uncle Toms and porch monkeys. Maajid Nawaz was literally called a porch monkey while the SPLC, a supposedly "anti-racist", civil rights NGO, labeled him and Hirsi Ali as "anti-Muslim extremists".

There's also the fact that radical Third Wave feminists have been demonizing men like me for years now. I don't appreciate us being collectively labeled as potential rapists and I don't appreciate men being subjected to false accusations of sexual impropriety simply for being men. The Brett Kavanaugh political witch hunt revealed to me just how low leftists and Democrats are prepared to stoop in order to have their way.

The woke Left is also well known for its opposition to free speech both offline and online. The CCP, the Malaysian government, and woke leftists in America aided and abetted by Facebook, Twitter, and Google are all trying to suppress my right to free speech. As someone who values my right to free speech and uses social media, this is a direct and sustained assault on my very way of life. The American Left is trying to force its authoritarian sensibilities onto me and the rest of the world and we foreigners who live under the rule of Muslim supremacists and communist tyrants and whose free speech is under attack on multiple fronts have absolutely no say whatsoever.

There's also this bullshit about microaggressions, safe spaces, cancel culture, white privilege, the male gaze, and other Marxist propaganda terms that are cringy at best and downright racist and sexist at worst.

There's also the fact that woke leftist ideology, including Black Lives Matter, has permeated companies, institutions, MSM, and social media platforms around the world. These ideologues are imposing, normalizing, and mainstreaming their toxic brand of cultural Marxist drivel down our throats at every opportunity from their sleek offices in San Jose, CA.

Last, but not least, in typical SJW fashion, leftists on this site have repeatedly twisted my words and called me a racist over and over and over with absolutely no basis in reality. They have been doing this to their critics for a couple of years now and the term has lost all meaning to the point that soon, people will begin to regard the label a badge of honor as I already do when leftists and Muslims characterize me as such.

Bullshit like this is why I don't take any of this BDS, BLM nonsense seriously and view such identitarian movements with the utmost contempt and ridicule, which is also how I view incels, white supremacists, and radical Islamists on the far-right. This is why I fucking hate the Left with a burning passion and the reason why i Walked Away in 2018 and declared my support for Donald Trump back in August of this year.

If Trump wins, he's going to make the Left, BDS, BLM, MeToo, etc. pay dearly for their crimes, their hatred, their intolerance, their propensity for mass violence, and their attempts to divide America and the rest of the world, particularly the Western world, and rightly so, while Facebook, Twitter, Google, et al. will finally be held accountable for their complicity in stifling free speech, particularly political speech they don't like. And even if he doesn't win, he and his supporters are not going to just vanish into thin air and people will continue to resist the woke Left's totalitarian agenda even more vigorously while in opposition, plus they still have a 6:3 conservative majority in the SCOTUS to buy them some time.

[Fahran]

Do you?

Yes.

[Rusozak]

The other thing I find to be unusual is how passionate GHK is on this topic.

I don't want to be like "hurr you're a foreigner you can't have an opinion", but has GHK ever traveled to or lived in the US? I feel like he doesn't understand the cultural issues that the US has, and gets a distorted image of American society through the Internet.

Race relations are a huge thing in American history and society. Race riots have been going on here for a long time.

A detailed explanation is in order.

Firstly, it's not just America. BLM has sprung up in other Western countries such as the UK and Australia that are so far removed from the violence in America.

Secondly, BLM is but one aspect of the woke, intersectional Left. I condemn it as part of a larger leftist trend just as I condemn the Western, identitarian Left as a whole. Why do I hate BLM with such a burning passion? My contempt for BLM ties into a broader hatred and contempt I have toward the Left in general. The two are inseparable. So I'll explain why I despise the Left instead because its influence and effects on society are so pervasive it would be difficult to bring up certain topics such as BLM without also discussing the Left as a whole.

Just going to copypaste this here:

Several years of being told Islam is superior and no one is allowed to challenge the supremacy of Islam and living under a racist, Islamist dictatorship that rigged multiple elections and cracked down on political dissent really took its toll on me after a few years. Seeing how much freedom Americans enjoy from a distance and how they can easily make fun of Islam without fear of reprisals and comparing their freedom to my own country where people who mock Islam are jailed for more than ten years at a time only added to that anger. Seeing Malaysians, Singaporeans, and Muslims, and many woke leftists and feminists, justify the Charlie Hebdo terror attacks and engage in victim-blaming and whataboutisms was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I have had absolutely nothing but hatred and contempt for radical Islam and the Left since then for their complicity in throwing non-Muslims in the Muslim world like me under the bus because criticizing Islam is "racist" and "Islamophobic".

Privileged, white, intersectional leftists who never have to worry about going hungry have unilaterally declared that Muslims are the "victims" of "white supremacy" and "systemic racism" even though they've been oppressing us for years and years. Nope. They're the victims now. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Muslims can do no wrong because they happen to have brown skin. They're so oppressed and helpless they need good old whitey to save them. They don't know what they're doing and they need guidance. This is so not racist and condescending at all.

The same goes for African-Americans and BLM. The same goes for Palestinians and BDS. The same goes for women and MeToo. The same goes for illegal immigrants and mass immigration, particularly of Muslims. All of these alleged "victims" are backed and defended by the very same, woke, intersectional leftists because Orange Man Bad or something. The Left doesn't give a fuck about Jews or Malaysian Chinese or Asian-Americans unless they can use us to bash Trump. They don't fucking care about us one bit.

Not to mention they're simping for the religion and ideology of my oppressors. The very people who are jailing and threatening anyone who dares speak out against their religion in my country and across the Muslim world are "victims" despite being in government and being the majority while leftists in the West attempt to deflect and change the topic to Western imperialism in the Middle East or something at best and label us racist, Islamophobic bigots for calling out Muslim bigotry and standing with Charlie Hebdo at worst. We are having our voices silenced or otherwise ignored by woke leftists and Islamists alike.

Wokeness and intersectionality that grants blacks, Arabs, Muslims, and women a free leg up and a free pass to do as they please solely on the grounds of skin color, creed, or gender while whites, men, Christians, Jews, and East Asians are routinely scapegoated for everything that goes wrong and we are constantly told to "check our privilege" and reminded of just how racist, sexist, and Islamophobic we are runs counter to my core, liberal values of equality of opportunity, individual merit, and my staunch opposition to racism, sexism, antisemitism, and bigotry. The Left throws East Asians and non-Muslims like me under the bus and insults the intelligence of actual, thinking, liberal Muslims and ex-Muslims such as Maajid Nawaz, Salman Rushdie, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali and deems them to be Uncle Toms and porch monkeys. Maajid Nawaz was literally called a porch monkey while the SPLC, a supposedly "anti-racist", civil rights NGO, labeled him and Hirsi Ali as "anti-Muslim extremists".

There's also the fact that radical Third Wave feminists have been demonizing men like me for years now. I don't appreciate us being collectively labeled as potential rapists and I don't appreciate men being subjected to false accusations of sexual impropriety simply for being men. The Brett Kavanaugh political witch hunt revealed to me just how low leftists and Democrats are prepared to stoop in order to have their way.

The woke Left is also well known for its opposition to free speech both offline and online. The CCP, the Malaysian government, and woke leftists in America aided and abetted by Facebook, Twitter, and Google are all trying to suppress my right to free speech. As someone who values my right to free speech and uses social media, this is a direct and sustained assault on my very way of life. The American Left is trying to force its authoritarian sensibilities onto me and the rest of the world and we foreigners who live under the rule of Muslim supremacists and communist tyrants and whose free speech is under attack on multiple fronts have absolutely no say whatsoever.

There's also this bullshit about microaggressions, safe spaces, cancel culture, white privilege, the male gaze, and other Marxist propaganda terms that are cringy at best and downright racist and sexist at worst.

There's also the fact that woke leftist ideology, including Black Lives Matter, has permeated companies, institutions, MSM, and social media platforms around the world. These ideologues are imposing, normalizing, and mainstreaming their toxic brand of cultural Marxist drivel down our throats at every opportunity from their sleek offices in San Jose, CA.

Last, but not least, in typical SJW fashion, leftists on this site have repeatedly twisted my words and called me a racist over and over and over with absolutely no basis in reality. They have been doing this to their critics for a couple of years now and the term has lost all meaning to the point that soon, people will begin to regard the label a badge of honor as I already do when leftists and Muslims characterize me as such.

Bullshit like this is why I don't take any of this BDS, BLM nonsense seriously and view such identitarian movements with the utmost contempt and ridicule, which is also how I view incels, white supremacists, and radical Islamists on the far-right. This is why I fucking hate the Left with a burning passion and the reason why i Walked Away in 2018 and declared my support for Donald Trump back in August of this year.

If Trump wins, he's going to make the Left, BDS, BLM, MeToo, etc. pay dearly for their crimes, their hatred, their intolerance, their propensity for mass violence, and their attempts to divide America and the rest of the world, particularly the Western world, and rightly so, while Facebook, Twitter, Google, et al. will finally be held accountable for their complicity in stifling free speech, particularly political speech they don't like. And even if he doesn't win, he and his supporters are not going to just vanish into thin air and people will continue to resist the woke Left's totalitarian agenda even more vigorously while in opposition, plus they still have a 6:3 conservative majority in the SCOTUS to buy them some time.

Nice strawman, but you seem to fail to grasp the intentions of just about every leftist movement you rattled off. It's convenient for you to see everyone you disagree with as a big bad boogieman that all think and act alike in some cartoon villain evil scheme. Contrary to what some fringe radicals may believe that you like to paint as representative of the entire movement, BLM merely wants equality. The whole idea is "black lives matter (too)" as actions of the "all lives matter" crowd definitely portray a belief that all lives don't actually matter, and they're just deflecting from a serious problem with race relations.

Also, the fact you hate every movement pushing for equality and justice just further reinforces that you don't actually care about freedom and justice at all. I mean, how can you call MeToo an intolerant hate group and still claim to be on the side of freedom? I guess defending rapists is the right thing to do now, and justice for rape victims is totalitarian.

Oh, and you talk about the left trying to divide the world, and yet in the same paragraph talk about Trump supporters continuing to resist and divide even if Trump loses. Let that sink in.

[Galloism]

A detailed explanation is in order.

Firstly, it's not just America. BLM has sprung up in other Western countries such as the UK and Australia that are so far removed from the violence in America.

Secondly, BLM is but one aspect of the woke, intersectional Left. I condemn it as part of a larger leftist trend just as I condemn the Western, identitarian Left as a whole. Why do I hate BLM with such a burning passion? My contempt for BLM ties into a broader hatred and contempt I have toward the Left in general. The two are inseparable. So I'll explain why I despise the Left instead because its influence and effects on society are so pervasive it would be difficult to bring up certain topics such as BLM without also discussing the Left as a whole.

Just going to copypaste this here:

Privileged, white, intersectional leftists who never have to worry about going hungry have unilaterally declared that Muslims are the "victims" of "white supremacy" and "systemic racism" even though they've been oppressing us for years and years. Nope. They're the victims now. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Muslims can do no wrong because they happen to have brown skin. They're so oppressed and helpless they need good old whitey to save them. They don't know what they're doing and they need guidance. This is so not racist and condescending at all.

The same goes for African-Americans and BLM. The same goes for Palestinians and BDS. The same goes for women and MeToo. The same goes for illegal immigrants and mass immigration, particularly of Muslims. All of these alleged "victims" are backed and defended by the very same, woke, intersectional leftists because Orange Man Bad or something. The Left doesn't give a fuck about Jews or Malaysian Chinese or Asian-Americans unless they can use us to bash Trump. They don't fucking care about us one bit.

Not to mention they're simping for the religion and ideology of my oppressors. The very people who are jailing and threatening anyone who dares speak out against their religion in my country and across the Muslim world are "victims" despite being in government and being the majority while leftists in the West attempt to deflect and change the topic to Western imperialism in the Middle East or something at best and label us racist, Islamophobic bigots for calling out Muslim bigotry and standing with Charlie Hebdo at worst. We are having our voices silenced or otherwise ignored by woke leftists and Islamists alike.

Wokeness and intersectionality that grants blacks, Arabs, Muslims, and women a free leg up and a free pass to do as they please solely on the grounds of skin color, creed, or gender while whites, men, Christians, Jews, and East Asians are routinely scapegoated for everything that goes wrong and we are constantly told to "check our privilege" and reminded of just how racist, sexist, and Islamophobic we are runs counter to my core, liberal values of equality of opportunity, individual merit, and my staunch opposition to racism, sexism, antisemitism, and bigotry. The Left throws East Asians and non-Muslims like me under the bus and insults the intelligence of actual, thinking, liberal Muslims and ex-Muslims such as Maajid Nawaz, Salman Rushdie, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali and deems them to be Uncle Toms and porch monkeys. Maajid Nawaz was literally called a porch monkey while the SPLC, a supposedly "anti-racist", civil rights NGO, labeled him and Hirsi Ali as "anti-Muslim extremists".

There's also the fact that radical Third Wave feminists have been demonizing men like me for years now. I don't appreciate us being collectively labeled as potential rapists and I don't appreciate men being subjected to false accusations of sexual impropriety simply for being men. The Brett Kavanaugh political witch hunt revealed to me just how low leftists and Democrats are prepared to stoop in order to have their way.

The woke Left is also well known for its opposition to free speech both offline and online. The CCP, the Malaysian government, and woke leftists in America aided and abetted by Facebook, Twitter, and Google are all trying to suppress my right to free speech. As someone who values my right to free speech and uses social media, this is a direct and sustained assault on my very way of life. The American Left is trying to force its authoritarian sensibilities onto me and the rest of the world and we foreigners who live under the rule of Muslim supremacists and communist tyrants and whose free speech is under attack on multiple fronts have absolutely no say whatsoever.

There's also this bullshit about microaggressions, safe spaces, cancel culture, white privilege, the male gaze, and other Marxist propaganda terms that are cringy at best and downright racist and sexist at worst.

There's also the fact that woke leftist ideology, including Black Lives Matter, has permeated companies, institutions, MSM, and social media platforms around the world. These ideologues are imposing, normalizing, and mainstreaming their toxic brand of cultural Marxist drivel down our throats at every opportunity from their sleek offices in San Jose, CA.

Last, but not least, in typical SJW fashion, leftists on this site have repeatedly twisted my words and called me a racist over and over and over with absolutely no basis in reality. They have been doing this to their critics for a couple of years now and the term has lost all meaning to the point that soon, people will begin to regard the label a badge of honor as I already do when leftists and Muslims characterize me as such.

Bullshit like this is why I don't take any of this BDS, BLM nonsense seriously and view such identitarian movements with the utmost contempt and ridicule, which is also how I view incels, white supremacists, and radical Islamists on the far-right. This is why I fucking hate the Left with a burning passion and the reason why i Walked Away in 2018 and declared my support for Donald Trump back in August of this year.

If Trump wins, he's going to make the Left, BDS, BLM, MeToo, etc. pay dearly for their crimes, their hatred, their intolerance, their propensity for mass violence, and their attempts to divide America and the rest of the world, particularly the Western world, and rightly so, while Facebook, Twitter, Google, et al. will finally be held accountable for their complicity in stifling free speech, particularly political speech they don't like. And even if he doesn't win, he and his supporters are not going to just vanish into thin air and people will continue to resist the woke Left's totalitarian agenda even more vigorously while in opposition, plus they still have a 6:3 conservative majority in the SCOTUS to buy them some time.

Nice strawman, but you seem to fail to grasp the intentions of just about every leftist movement you rattled off. It's convenient for you to see everyone you disagree with as a big bad boogieman that all think and act alike in some cartoon villain evil scheme. Contrary to what some fringe radicals may believe that you like to paint as representative of the entire movement, BLM merely wants equality. The whole idea is "black lives matter (too)" as actions of the "all lives matter" crowd definitely portray a belief that all lives don't actually matter, and they're just deflecting from a serious problem with race relations.

Also, the fact you hate every movement pushing for equality and justice just further reinforces that you don't actually care about freedom and justice at all. I mean, how can you call MeToo an intolerant hate group and still claim to be on the side of freedom? I guess defending rapists is the right thing to do now, and justice for rape victims is totalitarian.

Oh, and you talk about the left trying to divide the world, and yet in the same paragraph talk about Trump supporters continuing to resist and divide even if Trump loses. Let that sink in.

One of the big things about this is the failure to disavow actions of the violent protestors by the broader movement. We all should agree that people who engage in violent attacks should be disavowed by the broader movement, but they aren't - in fact they're sometimes even given hero status.

As an example, look at the Kenosha situation. Here, a violent mentally ill homeless man (Rosenbaum) who was literally released that day from the hospital psych ward threatened to murder Kyle Rittenhouse if he caught him alone (according to a witness), took off his t-shirt, used it as a mask to hide his identity, chased Rittenhouse down as Rittenhouse fled from him, threw his bag at him, cornered him, tried to take his gun from him, and Rittenhouse shot him at point blank range after all of this took place - while the man who had threatened to murder him was trying to take his gun from him after chasing him down.

What was the reaction?

He's a peaceful protestor, or a hero, or a victim of violence. This is when he was the one who initiated the violence. When you celebrate the initiators of violence, call them peaceful protestors, heroes, and victims, it really really really undermines the notion that your movement is peaceful. It's not even just "oh, they didn't say anything about the violent attacker". It's that they openly celebrated the violent attacker who had threatened murder and was in the process of attempting to carry it out.

[Vassenor]

A detailed explanation is in order.

Firstly, it's not just America. BLM has sprung up in other Western countries such as the UK and Australia that are so far removed from the violence in America.

Secondly, BLM is but one aspect of the woke, intersectional Left. I condemn it as part of a larger leftist trend just as I condemn the Western, identitarian Left as a whole. Why do I hate BLM with such a burning passion? My contempt for BLM ties into a broader hatred and contempt I have toward the Left in general. The two are inseparable. So I'll explain why I despise the Left instead because its influence and effects on society are so pervasive it would be difficult to bring up certain topics such as BLM without also discussing the Left as a whole.

Just going to copypaste this here:

Privileged, white, intersectional leftists who never have to worry about going hungry have unilaterally declared that Muslims are the "victims" of "white supremacy" and "systemic racism" even though they've been oppressing us for years and years. Nope. They're the victims now. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Muslims can do no wrong because they happen to have brown skin. They're so oppressed and helpless they need good old whitey to save them. They don't know what they're doing and they need guidance. This is so not racist and condescending at all.

The same goes for African-Americans and BLM. The same goes for Palestinians and BDS. The same goes for women and MeToo. The same goes for illegal immigrants and mass immigration, particularly of Muslims. All of these alleged "victims" are backed and defended by the very same, woke, intersectional leftists because Orange Man Bad or something. The Left doesn't give a fuck about Jews or Malaysian Chinese or Asian-Americans unless they can use us to bash Trump. They don't fucking care about us one bit.

Not to mention they're simping for the religion and ideology of my oppressors. The very people who are jailing and threatening anyone who dares speak out against their religion in my country and across the Muslim world are "victims" despite being in government and being the majority while leftists in the West attempt to deflect and change the topic to Western imperialism in the Middle East or something at best and label us racist, Islamophobic bigots for calling out Muslim bigotry and standing with Charlie Hebdo at worst. We are having our voices silenced or otherwise ignored by woke leftists and Islamists alike.

Wokeness and intersectionality that grants blacks, Arabs, Muslims, and women a free leg up and a free pass to do as they please solely on the grounds of skin color, creed, or gender while whites, men, Christians, Jews, and East Asians are routinely scapegoated for everything that goes wrong and we are constantly told to "check our privilege" and reminded of just how racist, sexist, and Islamophobic we are runs counter to my core, liberal values of equality of opportunity, individual merit, and my staunch opposition to racism, sexism, antisemitism, and bigotry. The Left throws East Asians and non-Muslims like me under the bus and insults the intelligence of actual, thinking, liberal Muslims and ex-Muslims such as Maajid Nawaz, Salman Rushdie, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali and deems them to be Uncle Toms and porch monkeys. Maajid Nawaz was literally called a porch monkey while the SPLC, a supposedly "anti-racist", civil rights NGO, labeled him and Hirsi Ali as "anti-Muslim extremists".

There's also the fact that radical Third Wave feminists have been demonizing men like me for years now. I don't appreciate us being collectively labeled as potential rapists and I don't appreciate men being subjected to false accusations of sexual impropriety simply for being men. The Brett Kavanaugh political witch hunt revealed to me just how low leftists and Democrats are prepared to stoop in order to have their way.

The woke Left is also well known for its opposition to free speech both offline and online. The CCP, the Malaysian government, and woke leftists in America aided and abetted by Facebook, Twitter, and Google are all trying to suppress my right to free speech. As someone who values my right to free speech and uses social media, this is a direct and sustained assault on my very way of life. The American Left is trying to force its authoritarian sensibilities onto me and the rest of the world and we foreigners who live under the rule of Muslim supremacists and communist tyrants and whose free speech is under attack on multiple fronts have absolutely no say whatsoever.

There's also this bullshit about microaggressions, safe spaces, cancel culture, white privilege, the male gaze, and other Marxist propaganda terms that are cringy at best and downright racist and sexist at worst.

There's also the fact that woke leftist ideology, including Black Lives Matter, has permeated companies, institutions, MSM, and social media platforms around the world. These ideologues are imposing, normalizing, and mainstreaming their toxic brand of cultural Marxist drivel down our throats at every opportunity from their sleek offices in San Jose, CA.

Last, but not least, in typical SJW fashion, leftists on this site have repeatedly twisted my words and called me a racist over and over and over with absolutely no basis in reality. They have been doing this to their critics for a couple of years now and the term has lost all meaning to the point that soon, people will begin to regard the label a badge of honor as I already do when leftists and Muslims characterize me as such.

Bullshit like this is why I don't take any of this BDS, BLM nonsense seriously and view such identitarian movements with the utmost contempt and ridicule, which is also how I view incels, white supremacists, and radical Islamists on the far-right. This is why I fucking hate the Left with a burning passion and the reason why i Walked Away in 2018 and declared my support for Donald Trump back in August of this year.

If Trump wins, he's going to make the Left, BDS, BLM, MeToo, etc. pay dearly for their crimes, their hatred, their intolerance, their propensity for mass violence, and their attempts to divide America and the rest of the world, particularly the Western world, and rightly so, while Facebook, Twitter, Google, et al. will finally be held accountable for their complicity in stifling free speech, particularly political speech they don't like. And even if he doesn't win, he and his supporters are not going to just vanish into thin air and people will continue to resist the woke Left's totalitarian agenda even more vigorously while in opposition, plus they still have a 6:3 conservative majority in the SCOTUS to buy them some time.

Nice strawman, but you seem to fail to grasp the intentions of just about every leftist movement you rattled off. It's convenient for you to see everyone you disagree with as a big bad boogieman that all think and act alike in some cartoon villain evil scheme. Contrary to what some fringe radicals may believe that you like to paint as representative of the entire movement, BLM merely wants equality. The whole idea is "black lives matter (too)" as actions of the "all lives matter" crowd definitely portray a belief that all lives don't actually matter, and they're just deflecting from a serious problem with race relations.

Also, the fact you hate every movement pushing for equality and justice just further reinforces that you don't actually care about freedom and justice at all. I mean, how can you call MeToo an intolerant hate group and still claim to be on the side of freedom? I guess defending rapists is the right thing to do now, and justice for rape victims is totalitarian.

Oh, and you talk about the left trying to divide the world, and yet in the same paragraph talk about Trump supporters continuing to resist and divide even if Trump loses. Let that sink in.

You're forgetting that this is a logic whereby saying the police should not be allowed to act as judge, jury and executioner is somehow racist.

Guess that makes the Hong Kong protestors massive racists too.

[Rusozak]

Nice strawman, but you seem to fail to grasp the intentions of just about every leftist movement you rattled off. It's convenient for you to see everyone you disagree with as a big bad boogieman that all think and act alike in some cartoon villain evil scheme. Contrary to what some fringe radicals may believe that you like to paint as representative of the entire movement, BLM merely wants equality. The whole idea is "black lives matter (too)" as actions of the "all lives matter" crowd definitely portray a belief that all lives don't actually matter, and they're just deflecting from a serious problem with race relations.

Also, the fact you hate every movement pushing for equality and justice just further reinforces that you don't actually care about freedom and justice at all. I mean, how can you call MeToo an intolerant hate group and still claim to be on the side of freedom? I guess defending rapists is the right thing to do now, and justice for rape victims is totalitarian.

Oh, and you talk about the left trying to divide the world, and yet in the same paragraph talk about Trump supporters continuing to resist and divide even if Trump loses. Let that sink in.

One of the big things about this is the failure to disavow actions of the violent protestors by the broader movement. We all should agree that people who engage in violent attacks should be disavowed by the broader movement, but they aren't - in fact they're sometimes even given hero status.

As an example, look at the Kenosha situation. Here, a violent mentally ill homeless man (Rosenbaum) who was literally released that day from the hospital psych ward threatened to murder Kyle Rittenhouse if he caught him alone (according to a witness), took off his t-shirt, used it as a mask to hide his identity, chased Rittenhouse down as Rittenhouse fled from him, threw his bag at him, cornered him, tried to take his gun from him, and Rittenhouse shot him at point blank range after all of this took place - while the man who had threatened to murder him was trying to take his gun from him after chasing him down.

What was the reaction?

He's a peaceful protestor, or a hero, or a victim of violence. This is when he was the one who initiated the violence. When you celebrate the initiators of violence, call them peaceful protestors, heroes, and victims, it really really really undermines the notion that your movement is peaceful. It's not even just "oh, they didn't say anything about the violent attacker". It's that they openly celebrated the violent attacker who had threatened murder and was in the process of attempting to carry it out.

I'm aware of that, and I am not celebrating the initiators of violence. Most people who support BLM and the other listed movements condemn the senseless violence and the looting. Yes, it's true that not all think that way, but GHK seems to love to take the most extreme, violent, radical, and irrational member of the movement they can find and paint ALL leftists as being like that extreme.

[Antarcticanie]

Honestly BLM is cringe. Every cited case of an unjustified police shooting was false (excluding George Floyd, and one other, who was shot for trying to flee). Here's a list of every one I can think of:
-Trayvon Martin: Beat a man's head into the pavement for "following him". Shot to death.
-Michael Brown: Charged a cop after committing a strongarm robbery of a store. Shot in the head. Also, the reason for "Hands Up, Don't Shoot".
-(I forget his name, the jogger): Was entering homes in a neighborhood miles away from his own. Attempted to take a man's shotgun. Guess what happened to him.

All of these cases were false, yet cities burned because of them. So yeah. BLM isn't gamer, nor is it epic. Dare I say it, they're cringe.

[Kowani]

Honestly BLM is cringe. Every cited case of an unjustified police shooting was false (excluding George Floyd, and one other, who was shot for trying to flee). Here's a list of every one I can think of:

-(I forget his name, the jogger): Was entering homes in a neighborhood miles away from his own. Attempted to take a man's shotgun. Guess what happened to him.

All of these cases were false, yet cities burned because of them. So yeah. BLM isn't gamer, nor is it epic. Dare I say it, they're cringe.

1: He was legally allowed to enter those homes
2: Joggers usually go out for miles
3: He tried to take the shotgun after being hunted by armed strangers who initiated the conflict

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Honestly BLM is cringe. Every cited case of an unjustified police shooting was false (excluding George Floyd, and one other, who was shot for trying to flee). Here's a list of every one I can think of:
-Trayvon Martin: Beat a man's head into the pavement for "following him". Shot to death.
-Michael Brown: Charged a cop after committing a strongarm robbery of a store. Shot in the head. Also, the reason for "Hands Up, Don't Shoot".
-(I forget his name, the jogger): Was entering homes in a neighborhood miles away from his own. Attempted to take a man's shotgun. Guess what happened to him.

All of these cases were false, yet cities burned because of them. So yeah. BLM isn't gamer, nor is it epic. Dare I say it, they're cringe.

You forgot Philandro Castile who did as he was told, as well as thay guy in California who was shot while sleeping in a car.

And Breona Taylor who was sleeping, and Francisco Serna who was wandering the streets aimlessly because he had dementia. And Andre Guardado shot in the back while running....alot of people. It isnt even just the killings. Those are the tip of the iceberg. This movement had to happen because cops are unaccountable in America

[Antarcticanie]

Honestly BLM is cringe. Every cited case of an unjustified police shooting was false (excluding George Floyd, and one other, who was shot for trying to flee). Here's a list of every one I can think of:

-(I forget his name, the jogger): Was entering homes in a neighborhood miles away from his own. Attempted to take a man's shotgun. Guess what happened to him.

All of these cases were false, yet cities burned because of them. So yeah. BLM isn't gamer, nor is it epic. Dare I say it, they're cringe.

1: He was legally allowed to enter those homes
2: Joggers usually go out for miles
3: He tried to take the shotgun after being hunted by armed strangers who initiated the conflict

Why would any sane person try to take a SHOTGUN from armed strangers, unless to kill them with it? Also, if you watch the video (and I forgot to add this, my bad) you can see him drop something, possibly a stolen power tool, and then charge them. If they truly just wanted to go out and kill some blacks for the hell of it, they would've shot him as he charged, or at least, y'know, even aimed at him?

[Kowani]

1: He was legally allowed to enter those homes
2: Joggers usually go out for miles
3: He tried to take the shotgun after being hunted by armed strangers who initiated the conflict

Why would any sane person try to take a SHOTGUN from armed strangers, unless to kill them with it?

...What else was he supposed to do? Punch them?

Also, if you watch the video (and I forgot to add this, my bad) you can see him drop something, possibly a stolen power tool, and then charge them.

This is a) false, and b) nonsensical

If they truly just wanted to go out and kill some blacks for the hell of it, they would've shot him as he charged, or at least, y'know, even aimed at him?

We don't know what they did, because you can't see it

[Estanglia]

Honestly BLM is cringe. Every cited case of an unjustified police shooting was false (excluding George Floyd, and one other, who was shot for trying to flee). Here's a list of every one I can think of:
-Trayvon Martin: Beat a man's head into the pavement for "following him". Shot to death.
-Michael Brown: Charged a cop after committing a strongarm robbery of a store. Shot in the head. Also, the reason for "Hands Up, Don't Shoot".
-(I forget his name, the jogger): Was entering homes in a neighborhood miles away from his own. Attempted to take a man's shotgun. Guess what happened to him.

All of these cases were false, yet cities burned because of them. So yeah. BLM isn't gamer, nor is it epic. Dare I say it, they're cringe.

You say every, yet you only bring out two examples. If you're gonna bring out a claim that "every cited case of an unjustified police shooting was false", you might want more than that.

I'm not counting the third one because I think you're referring to Ahmaud Arbery. Arbery wasn't shot by police, and instead was shot dead by people who followed him. Plus, if I remember the case correctly, he wasn't shot dead whilst entering a home, he was just pursued, got into an altercation with his pursuers, and was then shot dead. Even if it was a justified shooting (arguable), it wasn't a police one.

[Estanglia]

1: He was legally allowed to enter those homes
2: Joggers usually go out for miles
3: He tried to take the shotgun after being hunted by armed strangers who initiated the conflict

Why would any sane person try to take a SHOTGUN from armed strangers, unless to kill them with it?

Generally, if someone is intending to attack you with a firearm and "flee" isn't an option, you're better off risking trying to take their gun.

Also, if you watch the video (and I forgot to add this, my bad) you can see him drop something, possibly a stolen power tool, and then charge them.

How does this change anything.

If they truly just wanted to go out and kill some blacks for the hell of it, they would've shot him as he charged, or at least, y'know, even aimed at him?

Kowani never said they were going after him "[to] kill some blacks for the hell of it".

[Galloism]

One of the big things about this is the failure to disavow actions of the violent protestors by the broader movement. We all should agree that people who engage in violent attacks should be disavowed by the broader movement, but they aren't - in fact they're sometimes even given hero status.

As an example, look at the Kenosha situation. Here, a violent mentally ill homeless man (Rosenbaum) who was literally released that day from the hospital psych ward threatened to murder Kyle Rittenhouse if he caught him alone (according to a witness), took off his t-shirt, used it as a mask to hide his identity, chased Rittenhouse down as Rittenhouse fled from him, threw his bag at him, cornered him, tried to take his gun from him, and Rittenhouse shot him at point blank range after all of this took place - while the man who had threatened to murder him was trying to take his gun from him after chasing him down.

What was the reaction?

He's a peaceful protestor, or a hero, or a victim of violence. This is when he was the one who initiated the violence. When you celebrate the initiators of violence, call them peaceful protestors, heroes, and victims, it really really really undermines the notion that your movement is peaceful. It's not even just "oh, they didn't say anything about the violent attacker". It's that they openly celebrated the violent attacker who had threatened murder and was in the process of attempting to carry it out.

I'm aware of that, and I am not celebrating the initiators of violence. Most people who support BLM and the other listed movements condemn the senseless violence and the looting. Yes, it's true that not all think that way, but GHK seems to love to take the most extreme, violent, radical, and irrational member of the movement they can find and paint ALL leftists as being like that extreme.

"Only some of our supporters celebrate people who are violently mentally ill and explicitly trying to murder people" is not particularly helpful. Particularly when some of those supporters are literally in state legislatures.

[Knask]

There's riots in LA!




Nevermind, it doesn't count, it's just because of sports.

[-Ocelot-]

There was a riot in Brooklyn last night btw.

I'm sure the city is in a much better state now that these brave looters fought the evil system

[Rusozak]

Nice strawman, but you seem to fail to grasp the intentions of just about every leftist movement you rattled off. It's convenient for you to see everyone you disagree with as a big bad boogieman that all think and act alike in some cartoon villain evil scheme. Contrary to what some fringe radicals may believe that you like to paint as representative of the entire movement, BLM merely wants equality. The whole idea is "black lives matter (too)" as actions of the "all lives matter" crowd definitely portray a belief that all lives don't actually matter, and they're just deflecting from a serious problem with race relations.

Also, the fact you hate every movement pushing for equality and justice just further reinforces that you don't actually care about freedom and justice at all. I mean, how can you call MeToo an intolerant hate group and still claim to be on the side of freedom? I guess defending rapists is the right thing to do now, and justice for rape victims is totalitarian.

Oh, and you talk about the left trying to divide the world, and yet in the same paragraph talk about Trump supporters continuing to resist and divide even if Trump loses. Let that sink in.

You're forgetting that this is a logic whereby saying the police should not be allowed to act as judge, jury and executioner is somehow racist.

Guess that makes the Hong Kong protestors massive racists too.

"Hong Kong Matters!"

"All Chinese matter! You're racist! We must protect law and order!"

Logic 100.

[Eukaryotic Cells]

The other thing I find to be unusual is how passionate GHK is on this topic.

I don't want to be like "hurr you're a foreigner you can't have an opinion", but has GHK ever traveled to or lived in the US? I feel like he doesn't understand the cultural issues that the US has, and gets a distorted image of American society through the Internet.

Race relations are a huge thing in American history and society. Race riots have been going on here for a long time.

A detailed explanation is in order.

Firstly, it's not just America. BLM has sprung up in other Western countries such as the UK and Australia that are so far removed from the violence in America.

Secondly, BLM is but one aspect of the woke, intersectional Left. I condemn it as part of a larger leftist trend just as I condemn the Western, identitarian Left as a whole. Why do I hate BLM with such a burning passion? My contempt for BLM ties into a broader hatred and contempt I have toward the Left in general. The two are inseparable. So I'll explain why I despise the Left instead because its influence and effects on society are so pervasive it would be difficult to bring up certain topics such as BLM without also discussing the Left as a whole.

Just going to copypaste this here:

Several years of being told Islam is superior and no one is allowed to challenge the supremacy of Islam and living under a racist, Islamist dictatorship that rigged multiple elections and cracked down on political dissent really took its toll on me after a few years. Seeing how much freedom Americans enjoy from a distance and how they can easily make fun of Islam without fear of reprisals and comparing their freedom to my own country where people who mock Islam are jailed for more than ten years at a time only added to that anger. Seeing Malaysians, Singaporeans, and Muslims, and many woke leftists and feminists, justify the Charlie Hebdo terror attacks and engage in victim-blaming and whataboutisms was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I have had absolutely nothing but hatred and contempt for radical Islam and the Left since then for their complicity in throwing non-Muslims in the Muslim world like me under the bus because criticizing Islam is "racist" and "Islamophobic".

Privileged, white, intersectional leftists who never have to worry about going hungry have unilaterally declared that Muslims are the "victims" of "white supremacy" and "systemic racism" even though they've been oppressing us for years and years. Nope. They're the victims now. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Muslims can do no wrong because they happen to have brown skin. They're so oppressed and helpless they need good old whitey to save them. They don't know what they're doing and they need guidance. This is so not racist and condescending at all.

The same goes for African-Americans and BLM. The same goes for Palestinians and BDS. The same goes for women and MeToo. The same goes for illegal immigrants and mass immigration, particularly of Muslims. All of these alleged "victims" are backed and defended by the very same, woke, intersectional leftists because Orange Man Bad or something. The Left doesn't give a fuck about Jews or Malaysian Chinese or Asian-Americans unless they can use us to bash Trump. They don't fucking care about us one bit.

Not to mention they're simping for the religion and ideology of my oppressors. The very people who are jailing and threatening anyone who dares speak out against their religion in my country and across the Muslim world are "victims" despite being in government and being the majority while leftists in the West attempt to deflect and change the topic to Western imperialism in the Middle East or something at best and label us racist, Islamophobic bigots for calling out Muslim bigotry and standing with Charlie Hebdo at worst. We are having our voices silenced or otherwise ignored by woke leftists and Islamists alike.

Wokeness and intersectionality that grants blacks, Arabs, Muslims, and women a free leg up and a free pass to do as they please solely on the grounds of skin color, creed, or gender while whites, men, Christians, Jews, and East Asians are routinely scapegoated for everything that goes wrong and we are constantly told to "check our privilege" and reminded of just how racist, sexist, and Islamophobic we are runs counter to my core, liberal values of equality of opportunity, individual merit, and my staunch opposition to racism, sexism, antisemitism, and bigotry. The Left throws East Asians and non-Muslims like me under the bus and insults the intelligence of actual, thinking, liberal Muslims and ex-Muslims such as Maajid Nawaz, Salman Rushdie, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali and deems them to be Uncle Toms and porch monkeys. Maajid Nawaz was literally called a porch monkey while the SPLC, a supposedly "anti-racist", civil rights NGO, labeled him and Hirsi Ali as "anti-Muslim extremists".

There's also the fact that radical Third Wave feminists have been demonizing men like me for years now. I don't appreciate us being collectively labeled as potential rapists and I don't appreciate men being subjected to false accusations of sexual impropriety simply for being men. The Brett Kavanaugh political witch hunt revealed to me just how low leftists and Democrats are prepared to stoop in order to have their way.

The woke Left is also well known for its opposition to free speech both offline and online. The CCP, the Malaysian government, and woke leftists in America aided and abetted by Facebook, Twitter, and Google are all trying to suppress my right to free speech. As someone who values my right to free speech and uses social media, this is a direct and sustained assault on my very way of life. The American Left is trying to force its authoritarian sensibilities onto me and the rest of the world and we foreigners who live under the rule of Muslim supremacists and communist tyrants and whose free speech is under attack on multiple fronts have absolutely no say whatsoever.

There's also this bullshit about microaggressions, safe spaces, cancel culture, white privilege, the male gaze, and other Marxist propaganda terms that are cringy at best and downright racist and sexist at worst.

There's also the fact that woke leftist ideology, including Black Lives Matter, has permeated companies, institutions, MSM, and social media platforms around the world. These ideologues are imposing, normalizing, and mainstreaming their toxic brand of cultural Marxist drivel down our throats at every opportunity from their sleek offices in San Jose, CA.

Last, but not least, in typical SJW fashion, leftists on this site have repeatedly twisted my words and called me a racist over and over and over with absolutely no basis in reality. They have been doing this to their critics for a couple of years now and the term has lost all meaning to the point that soon, people will begin to regard the label a badge of honor as I already do when leftists and Muslims characterize me as such.

Bullshit like this is why I don't take any of this BDS, BLM nonsense seriously and view such identitarian movements with the utmost contempt and ridicule, which is also how I view incels, white supremacists, and radical Islamists on the far-right. This is why I fucking hate the Left with a burning passion and the reason why i Walked Away in 2018 and declared my support for Donald Trump back in August of this year.

If Trump wins, he's going to make the Left, BDS, BLM, MeToo, etc. pay dearly for their crimes, their hatred, their intolerance, their propensity for mass violence, and their attempts to divide America and the rest of the world, particularly the Western world, and rightly so, while Facebook, Twitter, Google, et al. will finally be held accountable for their complicity in stifling free speech, particularly political speech they don't like. And even if he doesn't win, he and his supporters are not going to just vanish into thin air and people will continue to resist the woke Left's totalitarian agenda even more vigorously while in opposition, plus they still have a 6:3 conservative majority in the SCOTUS to buy them some time.

I think that BLM springing up in other countries speaks to the global influence of American culture, or at least popular perceptions of American culture.

Speaking specifically about the American case, there is a lot of history to unpack when we're talking about this issue. Race riots have been a fixture of US history since the 19th century. Protests against police brutality have been occurring since the 1990s. This is not something cut out of whole cloth by left wing activists.

If Trump is reelected, you will see more Black Lives Matter protests. If Biden is elected, you will also see more of these protests. The factors which motivate people to engage in these protests are deeply engrained in American society, and I don't think they're going to be going away anytime soon.