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The most kick-ass female in history

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The most kick ass female is..

Margaret Beaufort
1
2%
Ching Shih
4
8%
Joan of Arc
13
25%
The Huskar Social Union's Mom
19
37%
Queen Nzinga
2
4%
Some b&w photo
2
4%
Marie Curie
7
13%
Judge Judy
2
4%
Milunka Savić
0
No votes
Empress Wu
2
4%
 
Total votes : 52

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The most kick-ass female in history

Postby Bombadil » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:09 pm

For me I have two contenders.

First is Margaret Beaufort, at just thirteen years old she was a widow with child, a child who would later go on to be Henry VII, the first Tudor king, bringing an end to 300 years of Plantagenet rule. She had to negotiate her way through the War of the Roses, through the competing claims of Henry VI, Edward IV and Richard III. Frankly I don't know how she stayed alive, especially after a failed attempt to overthrow Richard III before the later successful attempt. She was also able to negotiate the marriage of Henry VII to the daughter of Edward IV thus reuniting the roses. She went through various political marriages in order to achieve this and then actually outlived Henry VII to see the coronation of her grandson Henry VIII.

Kick ass.

The second is Ching-Shih, who worked as a prostitute in a floating brothel in Guangdong before marrying Cheng I, a pirate of the South China Sea. Together they formed a huge coalition of competing pirates into one Red Flag Fleet to dominate the area. They adopted a son, Cheung Po Tsai - Chow Yun Fat plays a representation of him in Pirates of the Caribbean - who she also married on the death of Cheng I essentially to ensure she continued to run the show. She lay down strict codes including no theft from villages, no rape and equitable sharing of stolen goods. She defeated the Qing Navy, the British Navy and the Portugese. She was finally defeated by the Portuguese and the Qing dynasty said she'd be granted amnesty if she just quit pirating about - and she was like 'sure', and settled down in Macau and opened a gambling house.

Kick ass.

Who would be your pick and why?
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Postby Atheris » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:59 am

Cheng I Sao. Her, or Joan of Arc.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:11 am

That Chinese prostitute-turned-pirate. Or Jean d'Arc.
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Postby Atheris » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:12 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:That Chinese prostitute-turned-pirate. Or Jean d'Arc.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:26 am

My mum
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:My mum

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Postby Andsed » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:36 am

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:14 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:My mum


If we all vote for this, can we envision our own moms or does it have to be your particular mom?
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Postby Heloin » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:27 pm

Queen Nzinga was pretty awesome. Queen of Ndongo and Matamba in Angola for 37 years and lead a guerrilla campaign against the Portuguese Empire.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:49 pm

Queen Dihya of the Jrawa Zenata tribe. Scorched earth was a policy with her.
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Postby Thepeopl » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:53 pm

Madame Maria Salomea Skłodowska-Curie

She won two consecutive Nobel prizes in two fields (physicsand chemistry). And gave up her health for science.

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Thepeopl wrote:Madame Maria Salomea Skłodowska-Curie

She won two consecutive Nobel prizes in two fields (physicsand chemistry). And gave up her health for science.


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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:40 pm

I wouldn’t know, there are badass women I have yet to hear about.

I have some favorites that are favorites less than ‘most kick ass’.

Denise McCluggage was pretty cool, she was a reporter on various sports in the turn of the century and reported on them by doing them, including downhill skiing and automobile racing. Also her friend Helle Nice, the Bugatti Queen.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:04 pm

Queen Victoria. Like seriously, the girl managed to put a child on every major throne in Europe, commanded the largest empire ever to exist at its prime and gave her name to an entire era of human history. Plus she looked hot in her early days.
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Postby Maroza » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:30 pm

Milunka Savić, I think she is still the most decorated female soldier in history. Served in World War 1, the Balkan war before that and in WW2 she went to a concentration camp. I don't know if this part is true but apparently the camp commander was a huge fan and had her released when he found out who she was.

I first heard about her because she went to answer the call of nature only to accidentally walk back to the Austrian trench rather than her own. She accidentally took a dozen prisoners that day.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:21 pm

I'm quite the fan of Empress Wu. She was the ONLY female Chinese empress because nobody played the game of Chinese court intrigue quite like her and the only thing that stopped her reign was natural causes and sexy boys. I think it's quite tragic that the Chinese court was a world that demanded she sacrifice her family in order to keep her power, because China was quite hostile to women being reigning Emperors, to the point that she was fighting for control until the very last second of her life and her legacy was more or less guaranteed to be scrubbed away from history by her successors and any heirs of hers would probably be unseated by her numerous enemies without her there to keep them at bay.

She was the Queen Cobra in a den of snakes. She was not at all a saint (allegedly, because all of the accounts about her were written by her enemies and neutral or positive accounts were destroyed) and there's something I love about a really bad or unethical person who makes the lives of other bad unethical people miserable. It's like evil punishing evil and it comforts me.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:26 pm

Probably Julie D'Aubigny.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:38 pm

I'm annoyed by the lack of Judge Judy in this thread....

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Postby Achidyemay » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:10 pm

The Rich Port wrote:I'm quite the fan of Empress Wu. She was the ONLY female Chinese empress because nobody played the game of Chinese court intrigue quite like her and the only thing that stopped her reign was natural causes and sexy boys. I think it's quite tragic that the Chinese court was a world that demanded she sacrifice her family in order to keep her power, because China was quite hostile to women being reigning Emperors, to the point that she was fighting for control until the very last second of her life and her legacy was more or less guaranteed to be scrubbed away from history by her successors and any heirs of hers would probably be unseated by her numerous enemies without her there to keep them at bay.

She was the Queen Cobra in a den of snakes. She was not at all a saint (allegedly, because all of the accounts about her were written by her enemies and neutral or positive accounts were destroyed) and there's something I love about a really bad or unethical person who makes the lives of other bad unethical people miserable. It's like evil punishing evil and it comforts me.

I am grateful I can learn History like this, more textbooks should have phrases like "Sexy boys" and "it comforts me".

Fartsniffage wrote:I'm annoyed by the lack of Judge Judy in this thread....

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Adrianna La Cerva. Her ass was always getting kicked by Christapha.
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Postby Mirjt » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:32 pm

Too many to count.

Boudica
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Florence Nightingale
Saphros
Mary Shelly
Mary Wollstonecraft
Victoria Woodhull

just to name a few off the top of my head
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