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Greater Cesnica
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:45 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:Fuck the Chinese Communists, fuck communism, fuck Winnie the Pooh, free Tibet, free Hong Kong, free East Turkestan, free Inner Mongolia, free Manchuria, free Macau

I’m not condoning it in any way, but after seeing news like this, I can understand why Mongolians in Mongolia would be embracing literal Nazism nowadays


Embracing a belief that the Aryan race shall beat the Jews and Slavs in a battle for supremacy makes zero sense in a conflict between Mongolia and China.

The slav hate is the biggest meme. Every slav I've ever met is 1 million times more principled and hard-working than any of the armchair neckbeard Nazis that I argue with on /pol/.
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Postby Fnargland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:46 pm

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future China goes full eastasia

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Postby Willtime » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:47 pm

Feline Goetland wrote:
Willtime wrote:
We also learn English,fool.


So what? Does it change the fact that the PRC deliberately makes its subjects uninformed about the world?


When you are trying to make Mongolian uninformed about other part of China?
And of course,I am informed about the world.

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Postby Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:47 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:Fuck the Chinese Communists, fuck communism, fuck Winnie the Pooh, free Tibet, free Hong Kong, free East Turkestan, free Inner Mongolia, free Manchuria, free Macau

I’m not condoning it in any way, but after seeing news like this, I can understand why Mongolians in Mongolia would be embracing literal Nazism nowadays


Embracing a belief that the Aryan race shall beat the Jews and Slavs in a battle for supremacy makes zero sense in a conflict between Mongolia and China.


There are actually plenty of far-rightists in Northeast Asia of different kinds lol. Japanese Nazis, Korean Nazis, Chinese Nazis, Mongolian Nazis..in addition to the non-Nazi far right..you name it..
Last edited by Feline Goetland on Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Goetland is not China.

China as a state is inherently evil which needs to be rectified by oppressed nations controlled by it regaining our righteous independence just like the independence of Finland, Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine from iterations of the Russian empire.

No more anti-Anglo, antisemitic and anti-Japanese nonsense, no more communist party, no more theft of wealth from Wu-speaking lands by Beijing, no more Boxer Rebellion-style xenophobia and it’s modern successors. America, Israel and Japan are inherently awesome.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:48 pm

Willtime wrote:
Feline Goetland wrote:
So what? Does it change the fact that the PRC deliberately makes its subjects uninformed about the world?


When you are trying to make Mongolian uninformed about other part of China?
And of course,I am informed about the world.

Do you support the Communist Party of China? A yes or no shall suffice.
"Blessed are the hearts that can bend; they shall never be broken." ~St. Francis de Sales
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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
My favourite revenge would be:
Genivaria wrote:Giving him an anal probe with a bayonet?

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Postby Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:48 pm

Willtime wrote:
Feline Goetland wrote:
So what? Does it change the fact that the PRC deliberately makes its subjects uninformed about the world?


When you are trying to make Mongolian uninformed about other part of China?
And of course,I am informed about the world.


Mongols in China are actually pretty integrated. In fact some high-ranking bureaucrats in China are ethnic Mongol. So I don’t really know what you are talking about. This is about as crazy as saying that third generation Japanese Americans aren’t really culturally in America.

You aren’t. For example do you know where Congo River is?
Last edited by Feline Goetland on Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Goetland is not China.

China as a state is inherently evil which needs to be rectified by oppressed nations controlled by it regaining our righteous independence just like the independence of Finland, Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine from iterations of the Russian empire.

No more anti-Anglo, antisemitic and anti-Japanese nonsense, no more communist party, no more theft of wealth from Wu-speaking lands by Beijing, no more Boxer Rebellion-style xenophobia and it’s modern successors. America, Israel and Japan are inherently awesome.

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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:48 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:Fuck the Chinese Communists, fuck communism, fuck Winnie the Pooh, free Tibet, free Hong Kong, free East Turkestan, free Inner Mongolia, free Manchuria, free Macau

I’m not condoning it in any way, but after seeing news like this, I can understand why Mongolians in Mongolia would be embracing literal Nazism nowadays


Embracing a belief that the Aryan race shall beat the Jews and Slavs in a battle for supremacy makes zero sense in a conflict between Mongolia and China.

I know, it baffles me too, but Mongolians right now, especially younger ones, have this weird obsession with Hitler and how he’s a descendent of Genghis or something
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Postby Fnargland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:49 pm

Willtime wrote:
Feline Goetland wrote:
So what? Does it change the fact that the PRC deliberately makes its subjects uninformed about the world?


When you are trying to make Mongolian uninformed about other part of China?
And of course,I am informed about the world.

I don’t think that was the point he was trying to make, and he made it clear it was the fault of the Chinese education system not the Mongolians

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:49 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Embracing a belief that the Aryan race shall beat the Jews and Slavs in a battle for supremacy makes zero sense in a conflict between Mongolia and China.

I know, it baffles me too, but Mongolians right now, especially younger ones, have this weird obsession with Hitler and how he’s a descendent of Genghis or something

It's the classic 'heritage beats oppression' mentality. They learn that Hitler opposed communism, and they don't like the CCP, so one thing leads to another.
"Blessed are the hearts that can bend; they shall never be broken." ~St. Francis de Sales
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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
My favourite revenge would be:
Genivaria wrote:Giving him an anal probe with a bayonet?

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Postby Willtime » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:49 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Willtime wrote:
When you are trying to make Mongolian uninformed about other part of China?
And of course,I am informed about the world.

Do you support the Communist Party of China? A yes or no shall suffice.


YES.
Not all of it,but much of it.

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Postby Fnargland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:50 pm

Willtime wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Do you support the Communist Party of China? A yes or no shall suffice.


YES.
Not all of it,but much of it.

Then you are little more than a useful idiot for the CCP

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:50 pm

Willtime wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Do you support the Communist Party of China? A yes or no shall suffice.


YES.
Not all of it,but much of it.

>YES.
Oh no. You live in China? If so, how'd you worm your way past the Great Firewall?
Last edited by Greater Cesnica on Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Blessed are the hearts that can bend; they shall never be broken." ~St. Francis de Sales
An 8 Power Civilization, with Tier 9 Technology and Type 7 Influence.
I use NS stats for the Economy and GDP spending only.
Working on this right now!

Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
My favourite revenge would be:
Genivaria wrote:Giving him an anal probe with a bayonet?

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Postby Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:52 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Embracing a belief that the Aryan race shall beat the Jews and Slavs in a battle for supremacy makes zero sense in a conflict between Mongolia and China.

I know, it baffles me too, but Mongolians right now, especially younger ones, have this weird obsession with Hitler and how he’s a descendent of Genghis or something


It’s not surprising. Hitler wasn’t really anti-East Asian. There is a lot of room for Northeast Asian ethnonationalists, Zionists and European ethnonationalists to collaborate or at least negotiate.
Goetland is not China.

China as a state is inherently evil which needs to be rectified by oppressed nations controlled by it regaining our righteous independence just like the independence of Finland, Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine from iterations of the Russian empire.

No more anti-Anglo, antisemitic and anti-Japanese nonsense, no more communist party, no more theft of wealth from Wu-speaking lands by Beijing, no more Boxer Rebellion-style xenophobia and it’s modern successors. America, Israel and Japan are inherently awesome.

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Postby Willtime » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:53 pm

Fnargland wrote:
Willtime wrote:
When you are trying to make Mongolian uninformed about other part of China?
And of course,I am informed about the world.

I don’t think that was the point he was trying to make, and he made it clear it was the fault of the Chinese education system not the Mongolians



He was trying to make the point that 'If you let Mongolians learn Chinese,you are bad'
So ,what about we also learn English?
Should we stop learning English too?

Without communication, you cannot build the Tower of Babel.
Without language,you cannot communication.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:55 pm

Feline Goetland wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:I know, it baffles me too, but Mongolians right now, especially younger ones, have this weird obsession with Hitler and how he’s a descendent of Genghis or something


It’s not surprising. Hitler wasn’t really anti-East Asian. There is a lot of room for Northeast Asian ethnonationalists, Zionists and European ethnonationalists to collaborate or at least negotiate.

I'm a regular poster and lurker on /pol/. In regards to Zionists, generally speaking even white supremacists will drop the brown people hate just to take the Palestinian side to own the Jews. Very rare to see Zionists exalted there, and even then it's more of a 'the Jews should leave OUR country and go to THEIR country' type of thing.
"Blessed are the hearts that can bend; they shall never be broken." ~St. Francis de Sales
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I use NS stats for the Economy and GDP spending only.
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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
My favourite revenge would be:
Genivaria wrote:Giving him an anal probe with a bayonet?

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:55 pm

Willtime wrote:
Fnargland wrote:I don’t think that was the point he was trying to make, and he made it clear it was the fault of the Chinese education system not the Mongolians



He was trying to make the point that 'If you let Mongolians learn Chinese,you are bad'
So ,what about we also learn English?
Should we stop learning English too?

Without communication, you cannot build the Tower of Babel.
Without language,you cannot communication.

Okay but the Mongolians should also be taught their native tongue as children, no?
"Blessed are the hearts that can bend; they shall never be broken." ~St. Francis de Sales
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I use NS stats for the Economy and GDP spending only.
Working on this right now!

Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
My favourite revenge would be:
Genivaria wrote:Giving him an anal probe with a bayonet?

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Postby Fnargland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:55 pm

Feline Goetland wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:I know, it baffles me too, but Mongolians right now, especially younger ones, have this weird obsession with Hitler and how he’s a descendent of Genghis or something


It’s not surprising. Hitler wasn’t really anti-East Asian. There is a lot of room for Northeast Asian ethnonationalists, Zionists and European ethnonationalists to collaborate or at least negotiate.

If I recall he actually made the Chinese and Japanese honorary aryans

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Postby Fnargland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:57 pm

Willtime wrote:
Fnargland wrote:I don’t think that was the point he was trying to make, and he made it clear it was the fault of the Chinese education system not the Mongolians



He was trying to make the point that 'If you let Mongolians learn Chinese,you are bad'
So ,what about we also learn English?
Should we stop learning English too?

Without communication, you cannot build the Tower of Babel.
Without language,you cannot communication.

Last time we tried to build Babel we ended up with a bunch of different languages so I don’t see why we would want to try again

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:57 pm

Fnargland wrote:
Feline Goetland wrote:
It’s not surprising. Hitler wasn’t really anti-East Asian. There is a lot of room for Northeast Asian ethnonationalists, Zionists and European ethnonationalists to collaborate or at least negotiate.

If I recall he actually made the Chinese and Japanese honorary aryans

Quote from Hitler:

"I am sure that the Japanese, the Chinese and the peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France, in spite of the fact that we are related by blood"
"Blessed are the hearts that can bend; they shall never be broken." ~St. Francis de Sales
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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
My favourite revenge would be:
Genivaria wrote:Giving him an anal probe with a bayonet?

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Postby Willtime » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:57 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Willtime wrote:
YES.
Not all of it,but much of it.

>YES.
Oh no. You live in China? If so, how'd you worm your way past the Great Firewall?


Yes,I live in China now.
Guess what?Play the game Nationstates need not past the wall.
People who want to play just need to enter the URL and press enter.(Create a bookmark to make it easier)

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Postby Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:58 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Feline Goetland wrote:
It’s not surprising. Hitler wasn’t really anti-East Asian. There is a lot of room for Northeast Asian ethnonationalists, Zionists and European ethnonationalists to collaborate or at least negotiate.

I'm a regular poster and lurker on /pol/. In regards to Zionists, generally speaking even white supremacists will drop the brown people hate just to take the Palestinian side to own the Jews. Very rare to see Zionists exalted there, and even then it's more of a 'the Jews should leave OUR country and go to THEIR country' type of thing.


That’s because they are insecure white SJWs. Nazism requires hatred towards the more competent (Ashkenazis) simply for being competent. This is precisely why statements such as “Jews are only X% of Berlin but Y% of attorneys in Berlin” where Y>X were and still are used by Nazis as “evidence” that a Jewish conspiracy exists.

Note that the same logic is usually used by their nominal enemies, SJWs, to “prove” that a white conspiracy (known as “implicit racism” or something) is keeping black people down.

The semi-respectable nationalists in Europe such as Orban on the other hand do tend to get along with Israelis.
Last edited by Feline Goetland on Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:01 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Goetland is not China.

China as a state is inherently evil which needs to be rectified by oppressed nations controlled by it regaining our righteous independence just like the independence of Finland, Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine from iterations of the Russian empire.

No more anti-Anglo, antisemitic and anti-Japanese nonsense, no more communist party, no more theft of wealth from Wu-speaking lands by Beijing, no more Boxer Rebellion-style xenophobia and it’s modern successors. America, Israel and Japan are inherently awesome.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Feline Goetland wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I'm a regular poster and lurker on /pol/. In regards to Zionists, generally speaking even white supremacists will drop the brown people hate just to take the Palestinian side to own the Jews. Very rare to see Zionists exalted there, and even then it's more of a 'the Jews should leave OUR country and go to THEIR country' type of thing.


That’s because they are insecure. Nazism requires hatred towards the more competent (Ashkenazis) simply for being competent. This is precisely why statements such as “Jews are only X% of Berlin but Y% of attorneys in Berlin” where Y>X were and still are used by Nazis as “evidence” that a Jewish conspiracy exists.

I personally do not believe in a Jewish conspiracy, rather just an elitist (comprised of those from all nationalities and faiths) conspiracy to be honest. It's quite disheartening to see people direct their correct assumption that there IS a globalist cabal controlling most geopolitics towards the Jews.
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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
My favourite revenge would be:
Genivaria wrote:Giving him an anal probe with a bayonet?

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Willtime wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:>YES.
Oh no. You live in China? If so, how'd you worm your way past the Great Firewall?


Yes,I live in China now.
Guess what?Play the game Nationstates need not past the wall.
People who want to play just need to enter the URL and press enter.(Create a bookmark to make it easier)

Here's a fun question: what are your thoughts on the Uighurs? How about those from Hong Kong?

*Grabs popcorn*
"Blessed are the hearts that can bend; they shall never be broken." ~St. Francis de Sales
An 8 Power Civilization, with Tier 9 Technology and Type 7 Influence.
I use NS stats for the Economy and GDP spending only.
Working on this right now!

Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
My favourite revenge would be:
Genivaria wrote:Giving him an anal probe with a bayonet?

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Postby Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Willtime wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:>YES.
Oh no. You live in China? If so, how'd you worm your way past the Great Firewall?


Yes,I live in China now.
Guess what?Play the game Nationstates need not past the wall.
People who want to play just need to enter the URL and press enter.(Create a bookmark to make it easier)


For now. Do you know what YouTube is?
Goetland is not China.

China as a state is inherently evil which needs to be rectified by oppressed nations controlled by it regaining our righteous independence just like the independence of Finland, Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine from iterations of the Russian empire.

No more anti-Anglo, antisemitic and anti-Japanese nonsense, no more communist party, no more theft of wealth from Wu-speaking lands by Beijing, no more Boxer Rebellion-style xenophobia and it’s modern successors. America, Israel and Japan are inherently awesome.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Willtime wrote:

He was trying to make the point that 'If you let Mongolians learn Chinese,you are bad'
So ,what about we also learn English?
Should we stop learning English too?

Without communication, you cannot build the Tower of Babel.
Without language,you cannot communication.

Okay but the Mongolians should also be taught their native tongue as children, no?


No no no, only by having the entire population speaking Mandarin and reading simplified Chinese can the narrative be controlled, for proper worship of Xi Jinping thought all must think, speak and read the same. There'll be a test on your smartphone app to ensure you comply correctly.
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