Cultural genocide of Mongols in South Mongolia

[Willtime]

1.Geographically together.Go to the population density map.
2.Helen Chu cant be trusted,of course.After all,she is Chinese.If 'West' cannot trust each other,then there are not a 'West' but many 'Wests'.

As for President Tsai,she is better than Chen Shuibian.

1. I saw it. Please make your claims more clear next time.

2. Surprise..surprise...not only isn’t the West monolithic..even US isn’t! There are BLM, Proud Boys, Republicans, Democrats, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, atheists, gays, straights..are you surprised? Guess what? Some people in America were actually born in China and not all are loyal to the regime! Only China is monolithic due to Sinostatism to the point that all of China has to have the same timezone lol.

Why do you think President Tsai is better than President Chen? Because she is less corrupt? Because she likes animals? Why?

1.So you know they are parted by desert now.
2.So when someone said 'Willtime will say West lies',which West did he mean?

Because she do better in destroying GuoMinDang(Kuomintang).
And it looks like she is less corrupt.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

>As evidence in the US and Europe shows, weeks.

Yeah Willtime's gonna say the West lies lmao.

Just choose between this.
1.China start to be serious about this when Jan23 (the day Wuhan was lockdowned),after weeks(four weeks),China told others the analysis in late February.
2.West lies,it need days,not weeks.Maybe hours,minutes,seconds.

????????

The key issue here is that China had already known about the virus in early December, but it did not inform WHO about any details concerning the virus until February.

In that time, patient zero was recorded in many countries already, and we even found out that the first case in France actually came in December, not the one reported in late January or so. The West, no, not the West, literally the rest of the world could have acted better had the Chinese willingly revealed information about the virus and let scientists from foreign areas analyse the virus early on.

[Feline Goetland]

1. I saw it. Please make your claims more clear next time.

2. Surprise..surprise...not only isn’t the West monolithic..even US isn’t! There are BLM, Proud Boys, Republicans, Democrats, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, atheists, gays, straights..are you surprised? Guess what? Some people in America were actually born in China and not all are loyal to the regime! Only China is monolithic due to Sinostatism to the point that all of China has to have the same timezone lol.

Why do you think President Tsai is better than President Chen? Because she is less corrupt? Because she likes animals? Why?

1.So you know they are parted by desert now.
2.So when someone said 'Willtime will say West lies',which West did he mean?

Because she do better in destroying GuoMinDang(Kuomintang).
And it looks like she is less corrupt.

1. Yes.

2. It seems that you are fundamentally mistaken because “the West” is as much of a monolithic entity as “rabbits”.

Why do you think KMT needs to be destroyed? There is a need for multiple major parties in Taiwan.

[Willtime]

Just choose between this.
1.China start to be serious about this when Jan23 (the day Wuhan was lockdowned),after weeks(four weeks),China told others the analysis in late February.
2.West lies,it need days,not weeks.Maybe hours,minutes,seconds.

????????

The key issue here is that China had already known about the virus in early December, but it did not inform WHO about any details concerning the virus until February.

In that time, patient zero was recorded in many countries already, and we even found out that the first case in France actually came in December, not the one reported in late January or so. The West, no, not the West, literally the rest of the world could have acted better had the Chinese willingly revealed information about the virus and let scientists from foreign areas analyse the virus early on.

'We even found out that the first case in France actually came in December'
Why France did not inform WHO about it?

[Willtime]

1.So you know they are parted by desert now.
2.So when someone said 'Willtime will say West lies',which West did he mean?

Because she do better in destroying GuoMinDang(Kuomintang).
And it looks like she is less corrupt.

1. Yes.

2. It seems that you are fundamentally mistaken because “the West” is as much of a monolithic entity as “rabbits”.

Why do you think KMT needs to be destroyed? There is a need for multiple major parties in Taiwan.

2.Yes,I was fooled by this statement.Language is always important.

Just tell it to her. she is the one trying to destroy KMT,and she does better than Chen.

[Bombadil]

Anyway.. it's stated policy to eradicate minorities by assimilating them into Han Chinese culture..

Since President Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, Beijing has embraced the so-called Second Generation Ethnic Policy, which argues that ethnic minority autonomy leads to separatist movements which threaten national security, according to Professor James Leibold from La Trobe University in Australia.

The policy, proposed by Tsinghua University scholar Hu Angang and his student Hu Lianhe in 2011, calls for the integration of ethnic minorities through economic development, intermarrying, and the use of Mandarin Chinese. In tandem, it features the removal of affirmative action policies for minorities in highly-competitive areas such as education.

The stated goal of the policy is to achieve the “great rejuvenation” of the Chinese nation by eliminating the autonomous areas and building a singular Chinese identity in place of the previously recognised 56 ethnic minorities in China.

On so many levels, Xi Jinping is a complete danger to everyone, I wish he'd be toppled from power but I don't see it happening anytime soon, then again you never know with China.

[Rusozak]

We are The PRC.
Lower your ethnic identity and surrender your town.
We will add your cultural and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Your culture will adapt to service us.
Resistance is futile.

[Feline Goetland]

We are The PRC.
Lower your ethnic identity and surrender your town.
We will add your cultural and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Your culture will adapt to service us.
Resistance is futile.

+1

[Feline Goetland]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-ccps-cultural-genocide-inner-mongolia

The so-called “People’s” Republic of China has recently gone even more absurd than what it used to be. Recently it began to require ethnic Mongol middle school students to take three key courses full of propaganda in Mandarin instead of Mongolian, that is, Language & literature aka philology, politics (lol that’s a pure propaganda course) and history (muh China rulez. Muh Japan sucks etc)

If you have time please click on the link above and sign the petition so that there will be at least 100,000 signatures. Really thanks!

Yay we got 100,000+ sigs! We NSGers helped make it happen haha.

[Freiheit Reich]

It's a tyranny and the will of the average Han person means nothing to the CCP.

Hitler at least cared about ethnic Germans. Stalin at least cared about ethnic Georgians to the point of being less harsh towards them in purges. Vietnamese communists at least cared about ethnic Vietnamese enough to invade Khmer Rouge. Even cannibals such as Idi Amin loved people from their own tribe.

Not China. Chinese rulers are entirely sociopathic and treat all their subjects like shit. While emperors such as Kangxi and Qianlong enjoyed luxuries and victories there were people in China reduced to cannibalism due to starvation and the state didn’t give a shit. Chiang Kai-shik deliberately caused the Yellow River flood in 1938 and drowned lots of mostly Han Chinese civilians. He later starved the people of Henan to cannibalism in 1942 and only the intervention by an American reporter caused him to give aid to them. Then we got Mao the mass murderer.

Remember that Mao was put into power by the Chinese people. Millions loved Mao and helped him get into power and basically they worshiped him as a God. Even now, Mao is loved by millions of Chinese people. Chinese people respect a leader who has authority, even if he is cruel. They are similar to the Russians (they loved Stalin and love Putin) in this way.

You can't feel too much sympathy for what Mao did to the Chinese because it was what the Chinese people wanted. Mao died a peaceful death and did not face serious challenges to his rule after 1949. Chinese people also love Xi Jinping much more than Hu Jintao because he behaves more like an emperor and has created a cult of personality.

[Kowani]

Hitler at least cared about ethnic Germans. Stalin at least cared about ethnic Georgians to the point of being less harsh towards them in purges. Vietnamese communists at least cared about ethnic Vietnamese enough to invade Khmer Rouge. Even cannibals such as Idi Amin loved people from their own tribe.

Not China. Chinese rulers are entirely sociopathic and treat all their subjects like shit. While emperors such as Kangxi and Qianlong enjoyed luxuries and victories there were people in China reduced to cannibalism due to starvation and the state didn’t give a shit. Chiang Kai-shik deliberately caused the Yellow River flood in 1938 and drowned lots of mostly Han Chinese civilians. He later starved the people of Henan to cannibalism in 1942 and only the intervention by an American reporter caused him to give aid to them. Then we got Mao the mass murderer.

Remember that Mao was put into power by the Chinese people. Millions loved Mao and helped him get into power and basically they worshiped him as a God. Even now, Mao is loved by millions of Chinese people. Chinese people respect a leader who has authority, even if he is cruel. They are similar to the Russians (they loved Stalin and love Putin) in this way.

You can't feel too much sympathy for what Mao did to the Chinese because it was what the Chinese people wanted. Mao died a peaceful death and did not face serious challenges to his rule after 1949. Chinese people also love Xi Jinping much more than Hu Jintao because he behaves more like an emperor and has created a cult of personality.

...No, Mao and Stalin are "loved" because of copious amounts of propaganda, their place in the national mythos, and the fact that life just...sort of sucked for most people.

[Feline Goetland]

Hitler at least cared about ethnic Germans. Stalin at least cared about ethnic Georgians to the point of being less harsh towards them in purges. Vietnamese communists at least cared about ethnic Vietnamese enough to invade Khmer Rouge. Even cannibals such as Idi Amin loved people from their own tribe.

Not China. Chinese rulers are entirely sociopathic and treat all their subjects like shit. While emperors such as Kangxi and Qianlong enjoyed luxuries and victories there were people in China reduced to cannibalism due to starvation and the state didn’t give a shit. Chiang Kai-shik deliberately caused the Yellow River flood in 1938 and drowned lots of mostly Han Chinese civilians. He later starved the people of Henan to cannibalism in 1942 and only the intervention by an American reporter caused him to give aid to them. Then we got Mao the mass murderer.

Remember that Mao was put into power by the Chinese people. Millions loved Mao and helped him get into power and basically they worshiped him as a God. Even now, Mao is loved by millions of Chinese people. Chinese people respect a leader who has authority, even if he is cruel. They are similar to the Russians (they loved Stalin and love Putin) in this way.

You can't feel too much sympathy for what Mao did to the Chinese because it was what the Chinese people wanted. Mao died a peaceful death and did not face serious challenges to his rule after 1949. Chinese people also love Xi Jinping much more than Hu Jintao because he behaves more like an emperor and has created a cult of personality.

There are liberals and moderates from Jiang and Hu’s eras. Some are imprisoned. Others have shut up. Some of the luckier ones including myself have fled from the PRC. When I was there many folks around me were liberal and anti-regime. It is not only Xi’s policies such as anti-Anglo and anti-minority ones that shocked me. What’s also saddening is the fact that younger generations of folks born in PRC are increasingly pro-regime. The ecological niche for freedom lovers like me no longer exists. When Xi became president for life I was horrified to know that the PRC clique of undergrads have become pro-regime. Hell.

Hell I used to attend classes with Uyghurs who slept in the same building as me. At that time many Han Chinese didn’t like them but not all didn’t and we could interact and had fun together. I also remember Uyghur merchants selling dried fruits and roasted mutton. When it is time to pray they rolled out their prayer mats to face Mecca around their stands. Gone are these happy times before Xi...

China needs to be abolished just like Prussia. Seriously. As long as China still exists the socially ultraconservative authoritarian and traditionalist fuckers such as Xi can take power even in a democracy. As someone whose non-tribal social views are very liberal I’m about as allergic to Chinese traditionalism as Western social liberals are to Western traditionalism. Since you guys defend Chinese far-rightists simply because they aren’t white I have to support European traditionalists and to a less extant Muslim ones for they are people who actually have some interest in combatting Chinese traditionalism. I know we are in a Tanzanian gov + Ugandan rebels vs Ugandan gov + Tanzanian rebels situation.

[Freiheit Reich]

Remember that Mao was put into power by the Chinese people. Millions loved Mao and helped him get into power and basically they worshiped him as a God. Even now, Mao is loved by millions of Chinese people. Chinese people respect a leader who has authority, even if he is cruel. They are similar to the Russians (they loved Stalin and love Putin) in this way.

You can't feel too much sympathy for what Mao did to the Chinese because it was what the Chinese people wanted. Mao died a peaceful death and did not face serious challenges to his rule after 1949. Chinese people also love Xi Jinping much more than Hu Jintao because he behaves more like an emperor and has created a cult of personality.

...No, Mao and Stalin are "loved" because of copious amounts of propaganda, their place in the national mythos, and the fact that life just...sort of sucked for most people.

People stand in line for hours to view Mao's body. If you ask Chinese people to name who they think are great leaders, 90% will name Mao within the first 3 names (I have asked several Chinese people this when I lived there). If Chines epeople really hated Mao, the Chinese would have revolted against Mao and the Communist Party. There were revolutions in many countries over the years, but China has kept the communist party which shows they like being controlled with an iron fist. Xi Jinping's name is often said as well as a great leader, but Hu Jintao's name was never mentioned when asking people who they thought were great leaders.

Qin Shi Huang was a power hungry jerk who did many evil things. However, he united the country and is a key figure in China's history. Perhaps he inspired many emperors to rule with an iron fist including Mao and Xi Jinping (basically a Chinese emperor dressed in a modern western suit). Suppressing Mongolian language is just one way to unite and control the country even more.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/cult ... i-huangdi/

"Shi Huangdi brutally suppressed dissent. Some accounts say that 460 scholars were rounded up and executed, and the texts they had used to criticize the government were confiscated or burned. Citizens of all ranks were encouraged to inform on one another; those convicted of crimes were executed, mutilated, or put to hard labor."

[Freiheit Reich]

Remember that Mao was put into power by the Chinese people. Millions loved Mao and helped him get into power and basically they worshiped him as a God. Even now, Mao is loved by millions of Chinese people. Chinese people respect a leader who has authority, even if he is cruel. They are similar to the Russians (they loved Stalin and love Putin) in this way.

You can't feel too much sympathy for what Mao did to the Chinese because it was what the Chinese people wanted. Mao died a peaceful death and did not face serious challenges to his rule after 1949. Chinese people also love Xi Jinping much more than Hu Jintao because he behaves more like an emperor and has created a cult of personality.

There are liberals and moderates from Jiang and Hu’s eras. Some are imprisoned. Others have shut up. Some of the luckier ones including myself have fled from the PRC. When I was there many folks around me were liberal and anti-regime. It is not only Xi’s policies such as anti-Anglo and anti-minority ones that shocked me. What’s also saddening is the fact that younger generations of folks born in PRC are increasingly pro-regime. The ecological niche for freedom lovers like me no longer exists. When Xi became president for life I was horrified to know that the PRC clique of undergrads have become pro-regime. Hell.

Hell I used to attend classes with Uyghurs who slept in the same building as me. At that time many Han Chinese didn’t like them but not all didn’t and we could interact and had fun together. I also remember Uyghur merchants selling dried fruits and roasted mutton. When it is time to pray they rolled out their prayer mats to face Mecca around their stands. Gone are these happy times before Xi...

China needs to be abolished just like Prussia. Seriously. As long as China still exists the socially ultraconservative authoritarian and traditionalist fuckers such as Xi can take power even in a democracy. As someone whose non-tribal social views are very liberal I’m about as allergic to Chinese traditionalism as Western social liberals are to Western traditionalism. Since you guys defend Chinese far-rightists simply because they aren’t white I have to support European traditionalists and to a less extant Muslim ones for they are people who actually have some interest in combatting Chinese traditionalism. I know we are in a Tanzanian gov + Ugandan rebels vs Ugandan gov + Tanzanian rebels situation.

Yes, it is unfortunate. Not all people are brainwashed and I feel bad for the 10% of people that actually want to live in a free democracy in China but have to stay in a repressed country because of the other 90%. When I see older Chinese people, I imagine them as teenagers in the 1960's having fun beating up professors and Buddhist monks and waving their red books while snitching on neighbors and family members to show how loyal they were. Those teenagers are now grumpy old folks that like to pretend they were pushed down or hit by a car and sue anybody that dares to help them. Ironically, the red guards are now evil capitalists.

It would be nice if Mongolia could give the Mongols in China a pathway to Mongolian citizenship. However, I doubt Mongolia would dare to hurt their relationship with China.

[The Huskar Social Union]

In an Ideal world the UN and the west would get together and tell china to fuck off and try to force them to knock this shit in the head. But i know thats not going to happen.


The Chinese government has a lot of blood on its hands, looks like they just wana drown themselves in it.

[Freiheit Reich]

In an Ideal world the UN and the west would get together and tell china to fuck off and try to force them to knock this shit in the head. But i know thats not going to happen.


The Chinese government has a lot of blood on its hands, looks like they just wana drown themselves in it.

I find it ironic that countries that claim to care so much about human rights (especially western European ones) still trade so much with China and open factories in China. Is it impossible for European and American companies to manufacture good in countries with better human rights records?

It seems countries will play along with China until China exposes its true goal of regaining lost territories (Taiwan, Mongolian, Vietnam, 95% of the South China Sea). It is just like what countries did in the 1930's when Germany quietly build up a top military and then proceeded with its world domination goals.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

In an Ideal world the UN and the west would get together and tell china to fuck off and try to force them to knock this shit in the head. But i know thats not going to happen.


The Chinese government has a lot of blood on its hands, looks like they just wana drown themselves in it.

I find it ironic that countries that claim to care so much about human rights (especially western European ones) still trade so much with China and open factories in China. Is it impossible for European and American companies to manufacture good in countries with better human rights records?

It seems countries will play along with China until China exposes its true goal of regaining lost territories (Taiwan, Mongolian, Vietnam, 95% of the South China Sea). It is just like what countries did in the 1930's when Germany quietly build up a top military and then proceeded with its world domination goals.

America and Britain definitely don't give a fuck about human rights. Why would the one country, which operated Abu Ghraib, or the other, which aided unionist death squads in Northern Ireland, actually care that China is wiping out Mongol culture?

[Genivaria]

Anyway.. it's stated policy to eradicate minorities by assimilating them into Han Chinese culture..

Since President Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, Beijing has embraced the so-called Second Generation Ethnic Policy, which argues that ethnic minority autonomy leads to separatist movements which threaten national security, according to Professor James Leibold from La Trobe University in Australia.

The policy, proposed by Tsinghua University scholar Hu Angang and his student Hu Lianhe in 2011, calls for the integration of ethnic minorities through economic development, intermarrying, and the use of Mandarin Chinese. In tandem, it features the removal of affirmative action policies for minorities in highly-competitive areas such as education.

The stated goal of the policy is to achieve the “great rejuvenation” of the Chinese nation by eliminating the autonomous areas and building a singular Chinese identity in place of the previously recognised 56 ethnic minorities in China.

On so many levels, Xi Jinping is a complete danger to everyone, I wish he'd be toppled from power but I don't see it happening anytime soon, then again you never know with China.

How is the PRC not a fascist state again?
One party authoritarian state, secret police, rigged elections, revanchist expansion, obsession on getting back at foreigners.

[Anatoliyanskiy]

I love how the OP thinks the White House is gonna do something about this and not completely ignore it. look, this is absolutely wrong and they are also doing this to ethnic Uyghur in Turkestan, but the White House doesn't have the authority to control anything. maybe send a petition to the UN instead? they could send in a peacekeeping force.

[Nuroblav]

Of course China continues to suck.

But as said above, I doubt that the White House will do something about it, I don't know

[Feline Goetland]

Anyway.. it's stated policy to eradicate minorities by assimilating them into Han Chinese culture..

Since President Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, Beijing has embraced the so-called Second Generation Ethnic Policy, which argues that ethnic minority autonomy leads to separatist movements which threaten national security, according to Professor James Leibold from La Trobe University in Australia.

The policy, proposed by Tsinghua University scholar Hu Angang and his student Hu Lianhe in 2011, calls for the integration of ethnic minorities through economic development, intermarrying, and the use of Mandarin Chinese. In tandem, it features the removal of affirmative action policies for minorities in highly-competitive areas such as education.

The stated goal of the policy is to achieve the “great rejuvenation” of the Chinese nation by eliminating the autonomous areas and building a singular Chinese identity in place of the previously recognised 56 ethnic minorities in China.

On so many levels, Xi Jinping is a complete danger to everyone, I wish he'd be toppled from power but I don't see it happening anytime soon, then again you never know with China.

How is the PRC not a fascist state again?
One party authoritarian state, secret police, rigged elections, revanchist expansion, obsession on getting back at foreigners.

It IS fascist. People had been talking about the fascist transformation of China for years. Now fascist China has actually happened. In fact Xi’s China is not just fascist. It is neo-Nazi. Hong Kong protesters did not talk about Chinazis and Chinazism for no reason.

[Cordel One]

Of course China continues to suck.

But as said above, I doubt that the White House will do something about it, I don't know

I would be astonished if the United States even cared.

[Nuroblav]

It IS fascist. People had been talking about the fascist transformation of China for years. Now fascist China has actually happened.

I tend to not to refer to it as such, but it does seem to tick all the boxes. I'm not even sure if it has anything going against it being such.

[Empirical Switzerland]

China sucks, I wish the government would fall.

[Feline Goetland]

It IS fascist. People had been talking about the fascist transformation of China for years. Now fascist China has actually happened.

I tend to not to refer to it as such, but it does seem to tick all the boxes. I'm not even sure if it has anything going against it being such.

How non-fascist was Milosevic’s Serbia? It didn’t claim to be fascist because it was a derogatory term but it WAS fascist. Similarly Xi’s China is neo-Nazi with Nazi characteristics such as using concentration camps to exterminate members of other ethnic groups.