[Abortion Thread] (POLL 4) A compromising position...

[Alcala-Cordel]

Arson attack on Planned Parenthood clinic in Knoxville, Tennessee

It doesn't look like they know who did it yet, but we all know why

[Flanderstan]

That reminds of a simpsons episode where ned flanders showed his kids a cartoon where the charecters made bombs to blow up planned parenthood.

I hate planned parenthood, but is arson really the way? No its not. You don't do that. Not Kosher.

[Prima Scriptura]

March for Life participants tell the Patriot Front they are not wanted.

This is the type of stuff I like to see. As a person that’s pro life, I think we should condemn violence extremists that are not pro-life whatsoever. We need MORE of this.

[HISPIDA]

March for Life participants tell the Patriot Front they are not wanted.

This is the type of stuff I like to see. As a person that’s pro life, I think we should condemn violence extremists that are not pro-life whatsoever. We need MORE of this.

they look like feds tbh

[Elwher]

March for Life participants tell the Patriot Front they are not wanted.

This is the type of stuff I like to see. As a person that’s pro life, I think we should condemn violence extremists that are not pro-life whatsoever. We need MORE of this.

Many of these movements are strongly pro-life, and allies are always useful.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

March for Life participants tell the Patriot Front they are not wanted.

This is the type of stuff I like to see. As a person that’s pro life, I think we should condemn violence extremists that are not pro-life whatsoever. We need MORE of this.

Many of these movements are strongly pro-life, and allies are always useful.

You want to hug Fascists because they put up the Potemkin's village of pro-"life"ism?

[Genivaria]

That reminds of a simpsons episode where ned flanders showed his kids a cartoon where the charecters made bombs to blow up planned parenthood.

I hate planned parenthood, but is arson really the way? No its not. You don't do that. Not Kosher.

Why exactly?

[The New California Republic]

March for Life participants tell the Patriot Front they are not wanted.

This is the type of stuff I like to see. As a person that’s pro life, I think we should condemn violence extremists that are not pro-life whatsoever. We need MORE of this.

Many of these movements are strongly pro-life, and allies are always useful.

If you unironically want fascist white supremacists as allies then methinks some urgent introspection is sorely needed.

[Elwher]

Many of these movements are strongly pro-life, and allies are always useful.

If you unironically want fascist white supremacists as allies then methinks some urgent introspection is sorely needed.

It is not what I want, I am not a member or supporter of March For Life or any suchlike organization. I am nearly pointing out that an ally's political stance on issues not related to one's own is not necessarily a disqualification for accepting their assistance in a specific cause. Many of the far-right groups strongly support a pro-life position, which might grant them a seat at the table.

[Vassenor]

If you unironically want fascist white supremacists as allies then methinks some urgent introspection is sorely needed.

It is not what I want, I am not a member or supporter of March For Life or any suchlike organization. I am nearly pointing out that an ally's political stance on issues not related to one's own is not necessarily a disqualification for accepting their assistance in a specific cause. Many of the far-right groups strongly support a pro-life position, which might grant them a seat at the table.

Do you ever stop to ask yourself why fascists support reducing women to broodmares?

[The New California Republic]

If you unironically want fascist white supremacists as allies then methinks some urgent introspection is sorely needed.

It is not what I want, I am not a member or supporter of March For Life or any suchlike organization.

I was using "you" in that context as the indefinite, i.e. not you specifically.

I am nearly pointing out that an ally's political stance on issues not related to one's own is not necessarily a disqualification for accepting their assistance in a specific cause. Many of the far-right groups strongly support a pro-life position, which might grant them a seat at the table.

...none of that does anything to respond to what I said, ignoring what one's allies stand for more broadly because one agrees with them on a singular issue is still asinine.

[Sundiata]

Her body, her choice?

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

Her body, her choice?

Filed under ‘things that will be more frequent if abortion is more heavily restricted’.

It will make people desperate, and when they’re desperate they’re not gonna be able to think clearly.

[The New California Republic]

Her body, her choice?

I know you are using this as some kinda gotcha to try to pwn the pro-choice folk Sun, but you majorly miscalculated: the video you linked to involves a baby that has been born, so it isn't the slightest bit relevant here.

[Spirit of Hope]

Her body, her choice?

Funny the born baby wasn't using the women's body. So it wasn't the woman's body and thus wasn't a viable choice to abandon it. If she didn't want the born child there were a number of options available to her that didn't include abandoning the child in that manner.

[Stellar Colonies]

I wonder if she was aware that she could easily give the child up for adoption without killing him. The quality of life in the system is debatable, but given that or being left for dead in a dumpster...

Regardless, it's probably irrelevant to this thread.

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

I wonder if she was aware that she could easily give the child up for adoption without killing him. The quality of life in the system is debatable, but given that or being left for dead in a dumpster...

Regardless, it's probably irrelevant to this thread.

It is. But it’s an important example of what happens when people get desperate. That kind of thing just doesn’t occur to them. Not everybody can keep their head in a panic.

[Genivaria]

I wonder if she was aware that she could easily give the child up for adoption without killing him. The quality of life in the system is debatable, but given that or being left for dead in a dumpster...

Regardless, it's probably irrelevant to this thread.

While you are correct I would posit that the mother in question being a teenager likely implies a great deal of panic at what happened and terror at being ostracized.
That doesn't justify the decision but it makes the actions of a child not thinking straight somewhat understandable.

[The Alma Mater]

Her body, her choice?

I know you are using this as some kinda gotcha to try to pwn the pro-choice folk Sun, but you majorly miscalculated: the video you linked to involves a baby that has been born, so it isn't the slightest bit relevant here.

It gets worse: forcing kids to give birth and then dumping the baby in a hole to die is what certain pro-life Catholic institutions did for decades.
So it is the exact opposite message as they intended.

[New haven america]

Her body, her choice?

I mean, this is the hell world you're trying to create by banning abortion. (Kinda part of the reason it was legalized to begin with. Also, the church did this for years to, so...)

Be prepared to see a massive spike of these cases if you get your way.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Her body, her choice?

I mean, this is the hell world you're trying to create by banning abortion. (Kinda part of the reason it was legalized to begin with. Also, the church did this for years to, so...)

Be prepared to see a massive spike of these cases if you get your way.

I mean these people have convinced themselves by their self-righteous sanctimoniousness that outlawing abortion in every case is actually doing the world good, despite the mountains of skeletons that proves otherwise.

[Page]

Her body, her choice?

These are the kinds of things that will happen all the time in a world where abortion is banned.

My guess is that she 1) needed help and couldn't get it, probably because she couldn't afford it and 2) didn't know about safe havens, otherwise she would have brought the baby to one of those spots. I don't suppose you support teenagers learning about their right to surrender a baby at a hospital or a fire station in sex ed? And I don't suppose you support the construction of baby boxes so that one can do that completely anonymously?

[Dogmeat]

Her body, her choice?

For shame Sun.

[Necroghastia]

It's not a sin if it's rape or incest though? Also, there's an abortion thread, we should take this there.

Sometimes it's just a necessary evil.

Don't dodge the question. Is it still a sin?
And what makes it "necessary" in those situations - any more necessary than the average abortion?

[Jinggangshan]

My countries regulations are quite adequate, though that religiously affiliated hospitals still can refuse to perform abortions while receiving government funding should be stamped out. Hell, religious schools and hospitals should not exist in general, let them peddle their garbage somewhere else.