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and which pendejo made you the arbiter of that?

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Spirit of Hope wrote:So a fetus has yet to gain personhood then. Either way it isn't a person.

A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

Necroghastia wrote:

Arlenton wrote:This opinion is simply an opinion. The government has, and uses, the ability to take rights away from people for various reason.

Do those "various reason" [sic] include the mentioned reason of offending some peoples' morality?

Arlenton wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:Do those "various reason" [sic] include the mentioned reason of offending some peoples' morality?

Yes.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Arlenton wrote:This opinion is simply an opinion. The government has, and uses, the ability to take rights away from people for various reason.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Abolish the 2nd amendment because civvies with guns personally offends me lmao

Necroghastia wrote:

Arlenton wrote:Yes.

Examples?

Arlenton wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:Examples?

State laws banning abortion after 25 weeks, or whatever the standard allowed by Roe is I forgot the exact number.

Arlenton wrote:

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

The government clearly does have gun control in effect currently, so yeah. They do do it.

I am not arguing in favor of a "should" I am arguing that they "do".

Necroghastia wrote:

Michel Meilleur wrote:A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

Wrong on both counts lmfao

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:Wrong on both counts lmfao

"nu uh ur wrong lololololilalol"

A compelling argument as to why some humans should not be considered as being persons.

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:Wrong on both counts lmfao

"nu uh ur wrong lololololilalol"

A compelling argument as to why some humans should not be considered as being persons.

Necroghastia wrote:are you seriously pretending that "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" isn't what your posts amount to

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:are you seriously pretending that "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" isn't what your posts amount to

Well, if telling you that "you don't get to deny another human's humanity because it's inconvenient to you" is "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" to you, then I don't think I can do much for you.

Necroghastia wrote:

Michel Meilleur wrote:Well, if telling you that "you don't get to deny another human's humanity because it's inconvenient to you" is "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" to you, then I don't think I can do much for you.

i mean
denying another human's humanity is literally what you are doing
so

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:i mean
denying another human's humanity is literally what you are doing
so

I'm denying another human's humanity by... Saying that personhood and its nebulous definition isn't enough to deny someone's humanity?
Quite the take you have, I sure would love to hear your reasoning because I ain't getting it lmfao

Michel Meilleur wrote:A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood..

Necroghastia wrote:

Michel Meilleur wrote:A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:

Fucking lmao, can you be less blatant in your shameless quote editing?

You know, you can just admit you were wrong and read too quickly instead of lying through your teeth like that.

Sundiata wrote:

Spirit of Hope wrote:So how do you define "right?"

Very differently from wrong.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Sundiata wrote:No, I'm arguing that brain-dead people should have the same rights as people who are not brain-dead.

Have you polled the dead about their political preferences lately? After all the dead should be permitted to vote according to you no?

Necroghastia wrote:He said, as he blatantly and shamelessly quote edited.

Not in the habit of saying I was wrong about things I wasn't wrong about.

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:He said, as he blatantly and shamelessly quote edited.

I quote edited because I added back the second part of the post you purposefully removed to change the point I was making?

You know that it's not allowed by the rules to do what you're trying to do, right?

Not in the habit of saying I was wrong about things I wasn't wrong about.

You're clearly in the habit of lying about being right for things you can and have been very easily proved wrong, lol

Necroghastia wrote:You mean the post I snipped to point out where precisely you denied certain peoples' humanity?

Michel Meilleur wrote:A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

If you honestly think I did anything wrong, the appropriate venue is the moderation subforum.

Yes, yes you are. You're also clearly in the habit of referring to yourself in the second person.

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:You mean the post I snipped to point out where precisely you denied certain peoples' humanity?

The post you removed the second part to change totally the meaning of and are now still pathetically lying in an attempt to pretend that you haven't fucked up pitifully, indeed.

Michel Meilleur wrote:A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

Necroghastia wrote:"they don't have personhood but they're persons" is a total oxymoron and you know it. But, somehow, you think I am the one who has "fucked up pitifully." Weeeeird.

Michel Meilleur wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:"they don't have personhood but they're persons" is a total oxymoron and you know it. But, somehow, you think I am the one who has "fucked up pitifully." Weeeeird.

It's almost as if "personhood" as a claim to what make a person, a person is bogus bullshit made up by peoples who want to justify abortion by dehumanizing fetus and babies.