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What would you consider to be the best 'compromise'?

Reduce abortions with welfare supports / other non-invasive measures, leave access untouched.
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Set conditions under which abortions can be accessed.
83
21%
Allow free access, under a given time limit.
38
9%
Allow free access, but give men an option to excuse themselves from child support.
40
10%
HELL WITH COMPROMISE, IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!
86
21%
Look out! They're here! Pink Elephants on Parade! Here they come, hippity hoppity!
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Total votes : 401

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:05 am


It seems his only agenda is how much can he oppress women.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:27 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
So what has he done sofar to end all rape in Texas ?

It seems his only agenda is how much can he oppress women.


Butbut.. he promised.
Did he lie ?
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Postby Dogmeat » Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:14 am


Oh I imagine he's preparing a bill that will make it legal, as long as you pay her father 20 pieces of silver. Or something.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

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Postby Jykku » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:58 pm

Canada CA wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:-Acknowledging holidays in December that aren't Christmas

In Christian nations, why should non-christian holidays be recognised or acknowledged? There is no need for that.

Because the United States is not a Christian nation, no matter how badly or violently Christians want to make it so.

Northern Connecticut wrote:Abortion is bad.

Prove it.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:51 pm

Northern Connecticut wrote:And heres a list of thing lefties wanna cancel:

-Christianity

The form of Christianity you're talking about, yep
-The republican party

Uh, yeah
-conservatives who express their opinion

It's not that they're expressing their opinions, it's the opinions they're expressing.
-the middle class

All classes
-pro life

Yup
-rich people

You're god damn right
-facists

Are you seriously trying to make this seem bad lmao
-anti communism

Yup
-american history

Revisionism. American history is important but ignoring the shitty things historical figures did is just propaganda. It's rightists that are trying to get people to stop teaching historical facts that make America look bad.
-George Washington
-Abraham Lincoln

Not gonna deny it
-police officers

I can't say the thing because it's all X are y
-veterns

I do, anyways. People hate me for it.
-soldiers and sailors in the armed forces

Imperialism
-Free speech

Maliciously misinterpreted buzzwords
- fetuses

That's right
-Jewish people

No, we're against fascism. There's nothing wrong with being Jewish.
-donald trump

Of course we do lmao
-Isreal

Apartheid is bad, free Palestine
- Law and order in major cities

Yeah, if by "Law and order" you mean "corrupt and racist institutions that turn a blind eye to their own murdering minorities in the streets"
- anyone who has allegations of anything against them (Except cuomo)

Including Cuomo.
- Mitch Mcconnell

Yeah
- peace of mind that your family is safe from criminals

What
- any food brand with an African American on the packaging

We canceled minstrel shows too
-the North Dakota Fighting Sioux

We are?
-the Chicago Blackhawks
- The cleaveland Indians
- the Florida seminoles

Just change your name
-college football

?
- people who say alm

Yeah, it's a buzzword with no purpose beyond undermining an anti-racist movement.
-people who say blue lives matter

Yeah, cops really aren't the victims here. Defending murderous racists is bad
-dissenters

Depends on what you mean
-bakers that refuse to bake cakes for gay people

Of course
-doctors who refuse to give transgender therapy.

Trans people are valid and any doctor who refuses should absolutely be "canceled".

While the list mostly consisted of really obvious things twisted to fit your own agenda, you do have something of a grasp on what leftists don't like, I guess. This really isn't anything wild or new.

Anyways, I guess what I'm trying to say is
Ifreann wrote:Yes.

Northern Connecticut wrote:Don't you think we shouldn't cancel these things? I actually believe in free speech and don't think we should cancel anything. (even things I don't agree with)

Calm down, "cancel culture" is a meaningless buzzword. Things have been getting "canceled" for thousands of years.

Anyways, back to abortion.

Considering how Texa and Florida are on a roll with all this bullshit it's weird how slow they're being with that plan to eliminate all rape. What the hell is taking them so long?

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Canada CA wrote:In Christian nations, why should non-christian holidays be recognised or acknowledged? There is no need for that.

Because the United States is not a Christian nation, no matter how badly or violently Christians want to make it so.

Some people sure are trying with their own twisted version of Christianity. I'm pretty sure most anti-abortion people really don't care about heartbeats so much as the belief that god made them a human being from the moment the egg got fertilized.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:52 am

I'm not pro-murdering babies.

I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.

I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.

I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.

I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.

I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.

I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.

I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.

I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.

You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:

I'm pro-life.

Their lives.

Women's lives.

You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.

It's not about which stories you don't agree with. It's about fighting for the women in the stories that you do agree with and the CHOICE that was made.

Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:15 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:And heres a list of thing lefties wanna cancel:

-facists
.

The whole list is absolutely laughable, but this is the best. I mean, cancelling fascists is a good thing, is it not?

Anyway, abortion is necessary for a woman to choose, etc.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:34 am

Ifreann wrote:
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Wait why penguins?

Fluff news stories about a same sex mated pair of penguins.


I do not believe there is a zoo with penguins anywhere on the planet that does not have at least 1 gay couple.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:25 am

Celritannia wrote:
Northern Connecticut wrote:And heres a list of thing lefties wanna cancel:

-facists
.

The whole list is absolutely laughable, but this is the best. I mean, cancelling fascists is a good thing, is it not?

Anyway, abortion is necessary for a woman to choose, etc.

Correction, "facists", whatever they are...
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Diahon » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:44 am


by making every female of conceivable age too pregnant to have kids by their rapists?

look, not perfect, alright? baby steps

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Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:22 am


No idea if it withstands constitutional muster.
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Postby Miternet » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:22 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Celritannia wrote:.

The whole list is absolutely laughable, but this is the best. I mean, cancelling fascists is a good thing, is it not?

Anyway, abortion is necessary for a woman to choose, etc.

Correction, "facists", whatever they are...


People who discriminate against people with faces?

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Postby Elwher » Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:45 am

Neutraligon wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Good.

No idea if it withstands constitutional muster.


Doesn't matter if it does or not, it will never pass the Senate.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:59 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Celritannia wrote:.

The whole list is absolutely laughable, but this is the best. I mean, cancelling fascists is a good thing, is it not?

Anyway, abortion is necessary for a woman to choose, etc.

Correction, "facists", whatever they are...

don't take it at face value
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:11 pm

Hispida wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Correction, "facists", whatever they are...

don't take it at face value

Don't take it at fasces values.
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Postby Fauzjhia » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:06 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Good.

No idea if it withstands constitutional muster.


first it must pass the Senate, and GOP might filibuster it
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:10 pm


This is a stupid, stupid, stupid bill. If this passes I am going to be protesting in the streets because we should not have restrictionless abortion.
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