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What would you consider to be the best 'compromise'?

Reduce abortions with welfare supports / other non-invasive measures, leave access untouched.
132
33%
Set conditions under which abortions can be accessed.
83
21%
Allow free access, under a given time limit.
38
9%
Allow free access, but give men an option to excuse themselves from child support.
40
10%
HELL WITH COMPROMISE, IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!
86
21%
Look out! They're here! Pink Elephants on Parade! Here they come, hippity hoppity!
22
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Total votes : 401

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:54 am

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:A victory for patriarchial slaverdom i see


About time, too.

If you hate freedom so much move to PRC and enjoy getting your organs harvested with no consent.
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:57 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
About time, too.

If you hate freedom so much move to PRC and enjoy getting your organs harvested with no consent.


Will do.

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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:57 am

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:A victory for patriarchial slaverdom i see


About time, too.

how original.

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If you hate freedom so much move to PRC and enjoy getting your organs harvested with no consent.


Will do.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:58 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
About time, too.

If you hate freedom so much move to PRC and enjoy getting your organs harvested with no consent.


The PRC has been more free than the USA for a while now.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:59 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If you hate freedom so much move to PRC and enjoy getting your organs harvested with no consent.


The PRC has been more free than the USA for a while now.

hah, no. as much as i hate to admit it i'd rather live in this slowly decaying hellhole than a fascist dictatorship that's hopefully gonna fall apart in a few decades*.

*the fascist dictatorship, mind you. not the people's republic. hopefully the people's republic actually returns to being based
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:02 am

Hispida wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
About time, too.

how original.

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Will do.

daring today, aren't we?


Not really.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:02 am

Hispida wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
The PRC has been more free than the USA for a while now.

hah, no. as much as i hate to admit it i'd rather live in this slowly decaying hellhole than a fascist dictatorship that's hopefully gonna fall apart in a few decades*.

*the fascist dictatorship, mind you. not the people's republic. hopefully the people's republic actually returns to being based

It's a regime where uttering this phrase gets you unpersoned by the state organs lol.
(Tl:dr it's a homophone for "Delete Xi" which understandably is Streng Verboten an idea)
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:04 am

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Hispida wrote:how original.


daring today, aren't we?


Not really.

it was a spongebob reference.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Hispida wrote:hah, no. as much as i hate to admit it i'd rather live in this slowly decaying hellhole than a fascist dictatorship that's hopefully gonna fall apart in a few decades*.

*the fascist dictatorship, mind you. not the people's republic. hopefully the people's republic actually returns to being based

It's a regime where uttering this phrase gets you unpersoned by the state organs lol.
(Tl:dr it's a homophone for "Delete Xi" which understandably is Streng Verboten an idea)

i'm aware, which is why i said i want the regime overthrown and the people's republic actually go back to being, y'know, a republic for the people.
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:06 am

Hispida wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Not really.

it was a spongebob reference.

I don't watch Spongebob.

Edit: Messed up the quote on that.
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Postby Godular » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:18 am

Hispida wrote:welp


Well fuck. Even Roberts voted against. Thought better of him.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:24 am

Wonder if this shit will embolden the sanctimonious cunts in the Swedish Christian Democratic Party.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:31 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Wonder if this shit will embolden the sanctimonious cunts in the Swedish Christian Democratic Party.

probably, why wouldn't it
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Postby Armeattla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:49 am

Can't wait for Gay Marriage, Interracial Marriage and the decriminalization of Homosexuality to be on the chopping block. (all of which are grounded in the due process clause - which just got thrown out)
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:50 am

Armeattla wrote:Can't wait for Gay Marriage, Interracial Marriage and the decriminalization of Homosexuality to be on the chopping block. (all of which are grounded in the due process clause - which just got thrown out)

Thomas is also salivating at the thought of throwing out contraception too.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:50 am

fucking boris johnson has called this a "huge step backwards"

how do you fuck up this bad
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:53 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Armeattla wrote:Can't wait for Gay Marriage, Interracial Marriage and the decriminalization of Homosexuality to be on the chopping block. (all of which are grounded in the due process clause - which just got thrown out)

Thomas is also salivating at the thought of throwing out contraception too.

So...
We must now ask ourselves how many of the SCOTUS ppl has visited Epstein's or similar establishments.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:53 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Thomas is also salivating at the thought of throwing out contraception too.

So...
We must now ask ourselves how many of the SCOTUS ppl has visited Epstein's or similar establishments.

probably all of them tbh

maybe not ACB
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:54 am

Hispida wrote:fucking boris johnson has called this a "huge step backwards"

how do you fuck up this bad


You seem to be under the misapprehension that a party calling itself Conservative magically confers upon it the qualities the label implies. This is a man who said he would be the most liberal Conservative PM in decades and whose party in general is a walking contradiction. If anything his comments on this demonstrate how delusional any accusations of right-wing extremism against the Conservatives are, rather than showcasing the moral state of the ruling.

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Postby Elwher » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:01 am

Hispida wrote:welp


A victory for the 1oth Amendment over Federal expansionism.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:12 am

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Hispida wrote:fucking boris johnson has called this a "huge step backwards"

how do you fuck up this bad


You seem to be under the misapprehension that a party calling itself Conservative magically confers upon it the qualities the label implies. This is a man who said he would be the most liberal Conservative PM in decades and whose party in general is a walking contradiction. If anything his comments on this demonstrate how delusional any accusations of right-wing extremism against the Conservatives are, rather than showcasing the moral state of the ruling.


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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:17 am

Elwher wrote:
Hispida wrote:welp


A victory for the 1oth Amendment over Federal expansionism.

So was it ok for chattel slavery to be an "10th amendment issue"?
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:19 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
You seem to be under the misapprehension that a party calling itself Conservative magically confers upon it the qualities the label implies. This is a man who said he would be the most liberal Conservative PM in decades and whose party in general is a walking contradiction. If anything his comments on this demonstrate how delusional any accusations of right-wing extremism against the Conservatives are, rather than showcasing the moral state of the ruling.


A stopped clock being right twice a day doesn't mean it's wrong to call it a stopped clock.


From where I'm sat the clock is working perfectly fine. It just doesn't deserve the label it claims for itself.

It's only right-wing in the sense of economics, frankly. Socially, the Conservatives is the party that brought the UK the mantras of multiculturalism and diversity. It is the party that has presided over "hate-speech" laws. I suppose its much easier to view it as conservative if you're coming from a position where anything other than enthusiastic vigour for the causes close to your heart constitutes opposition, but these days, heel-dragging submission seems to be the favourite tactic of conservatives. They'll get to where the progressives are going but they'll do it slowly and by the book. From where I'm standing they seem qualitatively anti-conservative.

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Postby New haven america » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:21 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
About time, too.

If you hate freedom so much move to PRC and enjoy getting your organs harvested with no consent.

The PRC's actually too free, as it fully embraces abortion right's seeing as there religious baggage attached to it.

A more apt recommendation would be Taliban's Afghanistan, as they basically fully align with the GOP's personal views. (Minus the whole Islam and Israel thing)
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:24 am

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
A stopped clock being right twice a day doesn't mean it's wrong to call it a stopped clock.


From where I'm sat the clock is working perfectly fine. It just doesn't deserve the label it claims for itself.

It's only right-wing in the sense of economics, frankly. Socially, the Conservatives is the party that brought the UK the mantras of multiculturalism and diversity. It is the party that has presided over "hate-speech" laws. I suppose its much easier to view it as conservative if you're coming from a position where anything other than enthusiastic vigour for the causes close to your heart constitutes opposition, but these days, heel-dragging submission seems to be the favourite tactic of conservatives. They'll get to where the progressives are going but they'll do it slowly and by the book. From where I'm standing they seem qualitatively anti-conservative.


-looks at how hard the Conservative party is pushing right-wing culture war rhetoric-

>presided over hate speech laws

The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 was passed under the Blair government. As was the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008, which made hate speech on the basis of sexual orientation a crime.
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:28 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
From where I'm sat the clock is working perfectly fine. It just doesn't deserve the label it claims for itself.

It's only right-wing in the sense of economics, frankly. Socially, the Conservatives is the party that brought the UK the mantras of multiculturalism and diversity. It is the party that has presided over "hate-speech" laws. I suppose its much easier to view it as conservative if you're coming from a position where anything other than enthusiastic vigour for the causes close to your heart constitutes opposition, but these days, heel-dragging submission seems to be the favourite tactic of conservatives. They'll get to where the progressives are going but they'll do it slowly and by the book. From where I'm standing they seem qualitatively anti-conservative.


-looks at how hard the Conservative party is pushing right-wing culture war rhetoric-

>presided over hate speech laws

The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 was passed under the Blair government. As was the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008, which made hate speech on the basis of sexual orientation a crime.


The only culture war rhetoric the Conservative party has engaged in is anti-Britain.

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