[Abortion Thread] (POLL 4) A compromising position...

[Celritannia]

Tennessee bans mail abortion pills

And let's see them enforce that one. Are they going to inspect every piece of mail in the entire state, or what? And if they tried, they are in violation of Federal statutes against tampering with the mail.

You don't mess with the postal service. There are very strict rules when it comes to USPS. No LEO will be able to open any federally protected mail.

[Vassenor]

And let's see them enforce that one. Are they going to inspect every piece of mail in the entire state, or what? And if they tried, they are in violation of Federal statutes against tampering with the mail.

You don't mess with the postal service. There are very strict rules when it comes to USPS. No LEO will be able to open any federally protected mail.

So we can expect a lot of "Computer Parts" being sent to the state going forward then?

[Salus Maior]

damn, I wonder if the rest of the anti-abortion movement is gonna do anything about it

What are they supposed to do about it?

Further, as far as I can tell this is just being proposed by representatives. Like what activists are we talking about? Who's protesting for the removal of birth control? Aside from middle aged moms who think it makes their teenagers have sex.

[San Lumen]

damn, I wonder if the rest of the anti-abortion movement is gonna do anything about it

What are they supposed to do about it?

Further, as far as I can tell this is just being proposed by representatives. Like what activists are we talking about? Who's protesting for the removal of birth control? Aside from middle aged moms who think it makes their teenagers have sex.

They are going to go after the Griswold case next which was about birth control.

[Salus Maior]

What are they supposed to do about it?

Further, as far as I can tell this is just being proposed by representatives. Like what activists are we talking about? Who's protesting for the removal of birth control? Aside from middle aged moms who think it makes their teenagers have sex.

They are going to go after the Griswold case next which was about birth control.

Who's "they"?

[San Lumen]

They are going to go after the Griswold case next which was about birth control.

Who's "they"?

Republicans

[Salus Maior]

Who's "they"?

Republicans

Be specific.

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

Republicans

Be specific.

Here's one of 'em. Though, I will point out there are several GOP state-level and national-level representatives in other states that have been making rumblings to the effect of canceling Griswold for a good while now.

[The Blaatschapen]

https://twitter.com/DrGJackBrown/status/1522737305710067715

I want to actually barf.

Not only is this just a fucking lie because there is definitely no short SUPPLY of orphans in the United States, BABIES AREN'T A COMMODITY NOR SHOULD THEY BE. I'M SORRY, IS THE ADOPTION INDUSTRY TRULY IN SUCH DIRE STRAITS THAT THEY NEED MORE ORPHANS?

That picture looks familiar

[Salus Maior]

Be specific.

Here's one of 'em. Though, I will point out there are several GOP state-level and national-level representatives in other states that have been making rumblings to the effect of canceling Griswold for a good while now.

That's not exactly the picture I have when people say "activists".

[ImperialRussia]

Literally no one mentions artificial wombs

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Literally no one mentions artificial wombs

because they practically dont exist

[ImperialRussia]

Literally no one mentions artificial wombs

because they practically dont exist

https://nextnature.net/story/2018/artif ... omb-design

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

because they practically dont exist

. https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d9e32823 ... c18dca5222

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png
yes, very convincing

[Vassenor]

because they practically dont exist

https://nextnature.net/story/2018/artif ... omb-design

>This thing definitely exists

> What an artificial womb may look like in the future

“May” is not a statement of existence.

[Thepeopl]

https://nextnature.net/story/2018/artif ... omb-design

>This thing definitely exists

> What an artificial womb may look like in the future

“May” is not a statement of existence.

Ok, I'll bite.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/1542 ... erm-infant

This does already exist . Just not for humans yet

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Literally no one mentions artificial wombs

Even if they were available for human usage, which they are not, there's a whole mess of ethical and financial constraints that make it Not Currently An Option™

[The Alma Mater]

Literally no one mentions artificial wombs

Why would they? If there was a way to magically "beam out" a fetus and place it into an artificial womb to grow to a welldeveloped Borg dro.. eehm, human - awesome.

I expect that the pro-life side would vehemently be against it because then there is "no punishment for the woman"; but hey.

[The Blaatschapen]

>This thing definitely exists

> What an artificial womb may look like in the future

“May” is not a statement of existence.

Ok, I'll bite.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/1542 ... erm-infant

This does already exist . Just not for humans yet

Ah, so that's where my babies are

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Literally no one mentions artificial wombs

Why would they? If there was a way to magically "beam out" a fetus and place it into an artificial womb to grow to a welldeveloped Borg dro.. eehm, human - awesome.

Never mind the fact that the only practical way that we have as of 2022 of getting a fetus out of a womb without destroying it is by cutting the woman open.
Compared to taking an abortifacient at weeks 6-8 this is a level of bodily harm few would contemplate.

[Michel Meilleur]

Why would they? If there was a way to magically "beam out" a fetus and place it into an artificial womb to grow to a welldeveloped Borg dro.. eehm, human - awesome.

Never mind the fact that the only practical way that we have as of 2022 of getting a fetus out of a womb without destroying it is by cutting the woman open.
Compared to taking an abortifacient at weeks 6-8 this is a level of bodily harm few would contemplate.

Yes. A routine operation compared to an homicide is indeed a level of harm few would contemplate.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Never mind the fact that the only practical way that we have as of 2022 of getting a fetus out of a womb without destroying it is by cutting the woman open.
Compared to taking an abortifacient at weeks 6-8 this is a level of bodily harm few would contemplate.

Yes. A routine operation compared to an homicide is indeed a level of harm few would contemplate.

Are you a licensed gynaecological surgeon? If not then keep your uninformed opinions to where they belong.

[Ifreann]

Why would they? If there was a way to magically "beam out" a fetus and place it into an artificial womb to grow to a welldeveloped Borg dro.. eehm, human - awesome.

Never mind the fact that the only practical way that we have as of 2022 of getting a fetus out of a womb without destroying it is by cutting the woman open.
Compared to taking an abortifacient at weeks 6-8 this is a level of bodily harm few would contemplate.

That's why the actual research into artificial wombs right now is intended for dangerously premature babies, not as an alternative to pregnancy.

[The Alma Mater]

Yes. A routine operation compared to an homicide is indeed a level of harm few would contemplate.

Are you a licensed gynaecological surgeon? If not then keep your uninformed opinions to where they belong.

You trigger me into a tangent - why are so many lawmakers who decide policy on abortion so uttely uninformed ?

I mean, we have had lawmakers claim that "women who get raped cannot get pregnant - the body prevents it", that "ectopic pregnancies can be replaced" etc. etc. etc.

Surely both pro-choice and pro-life must be horrified that the people making life and death decisions have no effing clue what they are talking about ?

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Are you a licensed gynaecological surgeon? If not then keep your uninformed opinions to where they belong.

You trigger me into a tangent - why are so many lawmakers who decide policy on abortion so uttely uninformed ?

I mean, we have had lawmakers claim that "women who get raped cannot get pregnant - the body prevents it", that "ectopic pregnancies can be replaced" etc. etc. etc.

Surely both pro-choice and pro-life must be horrified that the people making life and death decisions have no effing clue what they are talking about ?

Based on how long the War on Drugs has been going on and how the US government killed literally millions of people by legislating something they knew jack shit about, I don't have high hopes for human rights in a post-Roe America.