[Abortion Thread] (POLL 4) A compromising position...

[Greater Cesnica]

Was it ever implied, though?

Not in any post I saw; unless one interprets "parents have a (sacred) duty to care for their offspring" as "people should reproduce".
Which IMO is not what they meant.

Alright. It just seems like a very extreme position for someone here to take, even for fundamentalists.

[The Alma Mater]

Not in any post I saw; unless one interprets "parents have a (sacred) duty to care for their offspring" as "people should reproduce".
Which IMO is not what they meant.

Alright. It just seems like a very extreme position for someone here to take, even for fundamentalists.

Oh, there probably are people here who believe it is their deities will that they create as many babies as possible and condemn abortion for that reason. It *is* a pretty common reason to oppose abortion after all.

[Greater Cesnica]

Alright. It just seems like a very extreme position for someone here to take, even for fundamentalists.

Oh, there probably are people here who believe it is their deities will that they create as many babies as possible and condemn abortion for that reason. It *is* a pretty common reason to oppose abortion after all.

Yes, but the justification for rape is what's particularly extreme.

[The Alma Mater]

Oh, there probably are people here who believe it is their deities will that they create as many babies as possible and condemn abortion for that reason. It *is* a pretty common reason to oppose abortion after all.

Yes, but the justification for rape is what's particularly extreme.

*shrug*. Traditionally the Abrahamic religions teach that if a woman is raped, she should be married to her rapist. It is not especially shocking that some people still think that way.

[Kexholm Karelia]

I'm trying to see if your stance is principled or not.

I think "principles" is a large word when dealing with an individual for whom rape is a good thing as long as someone gets pregnant against their will as a result.

What?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

There are also issues with sex education in Russia, with very low numbers of Russian youngsters educated in contraceptives and family planning.

I wonder if the strength of the Russian Orthodox church is also a contributing factor.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Oh, there probably are people here who believe it is their deities will that they create as many babies as possible and condemn abortion for that reason. It *is* a pretty common reason to oppose abortion after all.

Yes, but the justification for rape is what's particularly extreme.

Are you saying I justified rape?

Guess its time for me to log off… if you people’s only response is to lie about something that I never said

[The Alma Mater]

Yes, but the justification for rape is what's particularly extreme.

Are you saying I justified rape?

Guess its time for me to log off… if you people’s only response is to lie about something that I never said

You indeed never said nor implied that and it is bad that people claim you did.

[Greater Cesnica]

Yes, but the justification for rape is what's particularly extreme.

Are you saying I justified rape?

Guess its time for me to log off… if you people’s only response is to lie about something that I never said

I didn't know if you did that. AS said you did, AM said you didn't, and you say you didn't. Unless AS can prove that you did, then I don't think you did.

[Punished UMN]

There are also issues with sex education in Russia, with very low numbers of Russian youngsters educated in contraceptives and family planning.

I wonder if the strength of the Russian Orthodox church is also a contributing factor.

Not really, the ROC isn't that powerful in Russia. Contraception was illegal prior to the dissolution of the USSR.

[Farnhamia]

I'm trying to see if your stance is principled or not.

I think "principles" is a large word when dealing with an individual for whom rape is a good thing as long as someone gets pregnant against their will as a result.

*** Warned for flaming ***

[Greater Cesnica]

I think "principles" is a large word when dealing with an individual for whom rape is a good thing as long as someone gets pregnant against their will as a result.

*** Warned for flaming ***

I will take that as a sign that Kexholm did not justify any such thing.

[Kowani]

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[ImperialRussia]

People who get aborted go to heaven the people who abort go to hell because the child who got aborted wants justice on his mother for denying him the will to live that why they suffer internal hell fire when they die because they continue to commit murder and not repent of it and continuing to deny gods mercy. So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

[Necroghastia]

People who get aborted go to heaven the people who abort go to hell because the child who got aborted wants justice on his mother for denying him the will to live that why they suffer internal hell fire when they die because they continue to commit murder and not repent of it and continuing to deny gods mercy. So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

Source?

[Molither]

People who get aborted go to heaven the people who abort go to hell because the child who got aborted wants justice on his mother for denying him the will to live that why they suffer internal hell fire when they die because they continue to commit murder and not repent of it and continuing to deny gods mercy. So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

Source?

LMAO. I lean towards pro life on the abortion issue but bringing religion into it is dumb. My sister has had an abortion. Do I still love her? Of course.

[ImperialRussia]

People who get aborted go to heaven the people who abort go to hell because the child who got aborted wants justice on his mother for denying him the will to live that why they suffer internal hell fire when they die because they continue to commit murder and not repent of it and continuing to deny gods mercy. So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

Source?

King James Bible, Saint Joseph Edition The new American Bible or New International Version HIV Holy Bible

[The New California Republic]

So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

Contradictory. Regarding abortion you can't both be pro life and pro choice.

[ImperialRussia]

So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

Contradictory. Regarding abortion you can't both be pro life and pro choice.

Ok I change that I’m pro life

[ImperialRussia]

Contradictory. Regarding abortion you can't both be pro life and pro choice.

Ok I change that I’m pro life

I edited that text you may wanna refresh

[Albrenia]

People who get aborted go to heaven the people who abort go to hell because the child who got aborted wants justice on his mother for denying him the will to live that why they suffer internal hell fire when they die because they continue to commit murder and not repent of it and continuing to deny gods mercy. So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

Wait whoa whoa. So if aborted people go to Heaven, why do people oppose it? What with the likelihood of life leading to the damnation of the born (depending on which religion is right, the maximum odds of escaping damnation is what, one in seven or something) why would you want so many babies to go to Hell?

Seems a bit harsh, man.

[ImperialRussia]

People who get aborted go to heaven the people who abort go to hell because the child who got aborted wants justice on his mother for denying him the will to live that why they suffer internal hell fire when they die because they continue to commit murder and not repent of it and continuing to deny gods mercy. So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

Wait whoa whoa. So if aborted people go to Heaven, why do people oppose it? What with the likelihood of life leading to the damnation of the born (depending on which religion is right, the maximum odds of escaping damnation is what, one in seven or something) why would you want so many babies to go to Hell?

Seems a bit harsh, man.

I mean babies go to heaven and people who commit abortions know as murder go to hell if they don’t repent for a baby didn’t commit sin is saved and goes to heaven for a baby deny the way of living is murder on a fellow human being and those babies want justice on their mother’s soul so many of these aborted babies will bring gods wrath this world for a women’s choice is not merciful on babies point of view In heaven.

[Autumn Wind]

So I’m pro life but justice will upon those who abort in the after life for denying children soul the will to live amongst men on earth. I’m pro choice because wanna see children have the chance to live as a normal human being.

Contradictory. Regarding abortion you can't both be pro life and pro choice.

Yes you can.

Prolife- believing abortion is morally wrong, and recommending against getting one.

Pro choice- believing that abortion should be legal as the state lacks the constitutional authority to violate bodily sovereignty.

If one considers them different axes, it is quite possible to be both pro-life and pro-choice.

[ImperialRussia]

Contradictory. Regarding abortion you can't both be pro life and pro choice.

Yes you can.

Prolife- believing abortion is morally wrong, and recommending against getting one.

Pro choice- believing that abortion should be legal as the state lacks the constitutional authority to violate bodily sovereignty.

If one considers them different axes, it is quite possible to be both pro-life and pro-choice.

I’m more pro life it’s for the right for a man or woman to live economics so they can serve the government or against its there choice there freedom

[ImperialRussia]

How will you feel if your a baby that got aborted by a mother and you where In heaven and you denied the will to live in the human world will you want justice against your murdering mother when she dies in the after life and her or his mother haven’t repented because your mother aborted you will you want justice on your mother yes or no there is children that said yes.