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WHat do you think?

An all-female cabinet is a great way to advance women's rights.
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No, the cabinet should be equally balances between men and women
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No, the cabinet posts should be held by whoever is most qualified, even if that results in a gender skew
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Total votes : 289

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:51 am

If they happened to be the most qualified, and were selected purely on that basis, than I'm fine with that. Happy in fact, since the best people for the job were chosen.

If they were chosen only because they were female however, passing over more qualified candidates and going with them only because of their sex, I would be far less pleased.

As I expected, my opinion is very similar to most of what's already been shared in the thread.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:53 am

An fall female cabinet might happen by chance as women are often the most qualified in the room.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:53 am

Same as before but everytime you criticize government policy, they yell "you're just a sexist."
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:11 am

That wouldn't be equality.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:16 am

Purpelia wrote:The only thing I care about when it comes to people running my country is how qualified they are for their job and what ideology they espouse. As long as those two criteria are filled and filled well I couldn't care less if they are all male, female or little green men from mars.

This.

Though I feel that if someone is just appointing all women probably doesn’t have the nations best interests at heart
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:17 am

I prefer pine, female cabinets tend to droop after awhile.
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Postby Minskiev » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:20 am

Yeah, it’s pretty strange of the PM to force a bunch of women to bend over and hold the weight of the PM’s things.
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Postby Sundiata » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:34 am

The more women the better if you ask me.
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Postby New Carthagea » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:36 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:The only thing I care about when it comes to people running my country is how qualified they are for their job and what ideology they espouse. As long as those two criteria are filled and filled well I couldn't care less if they are all male, female or little green men from mars.

This.

Though I feel that if someone is just appointing all women probably doesn’t have the nations best interests at heart


This. It would most probably be a publicity stunt to project themselves as progressive. I wouldn't mind an all female cabinet if they're all well qualified for the job, but I would if they were put just for the sake of "empowerment" with little or no merit.
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Postby La Xinga » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:39 am

It depends, if they were chosen because they were women, then I would be extremely unhappy, if they were chosen because they were qualified more than other people, I would be okay!
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:39 am

Sundiata wrote:The more women the better if you ask me.


Ok the Pope and all the cardinals will now have obligatory sex changes.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:39 am

Since the two genders have a well documented difference in thinking styles and thought processes, the ideal cabinet would have a balanced gender ratio.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:41 am

The odds of a cabinet being simultaneously all-female and the best in their fields is so astronomically high that I can only assume it's a sexist move and oppose it. The inverse (all-male cabinet) is also true and so I would oppose that. There is simply no way the best in every field a cabinet needs filled could be entirely of one sex. That's simply impossible unless you're intentionally prohibiting one sex from education and holding office.
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Postby La Xinga » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:41 am

Oh, it's the exact same thing as calling an all-male cabinet. "An advancement of men rights."
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Postby Sundiata » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:45 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Sundiata wrote:The more women the better if you ask me.


Ok the Pope and all the cardinals will now have obligatory sex changes.

No thank you, the more women the better.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:04 am

Sundiata wrote:
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Ok the Pope and all the cardinals will now have obligatory sex changes.

No thank you, the more women the better.


Not in the church leadership though!
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Postby Sundiata » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:40 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Sundiata wrote:No thank you, the more women the better.


Not in the church leadership though!

You're doing a disservice to the example of St. Teresa of Calcutta and all of the women like her, please. The church supports female leadership and participation in all spheres of society, especially the ordinary life as exemplified by the women of Opus Dei.
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Postby Samicana » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:42 am

I just want them to not be corrupt and authoritarian, so as long as they were elected in a fair and free election go ahead.

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Postby Kandorith » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:47 am

Eh if they are voted into office/ are the most qualified for the job I see nothing wrong with it. I seriously do not care about a person's gender in whatever role or any expertise as long as they are indeed the most qualified for the job.
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Postby Page » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:03 am

Well it certainly wouldn't be any worse than an all male cabinet and people have lived under those for a long time. But if a politician deliberately selected only women on purpose I wouldn't be a fan of it, mainly because I hate empty feminist gestures.

If you want to do right by women than give working class women (and men) a living wage, health care, make sure their needs are met.

On another subject, oppressive and destructive institutions are no less awful when women and people of color are put in charge of it. If you put a black, trans, Muslim, disabled lesbian in charge of ICE, it doesn't change the fact that ICE are state terrorists. A female CEO of an arms manufacturer is no less apathetic to the atrocities her company profits from than a man.

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Postby Geneviev » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:15 am

If they were actually best for it, that's good. If it's just an advancement of women's rights, I don't agree with it. It would be irrelevant to the rest of the world.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:17 am

As long as they were best qualified for the job I wouldn’t care all that much

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:18 am

Sundiata wrote:
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Not in the church leadership though!

You're doing a disservice to the example of St. Teresa of Calcutta and all of the women like her, please. The church supports female leadership and participation in all spheres of society, especially the ordinary life as exemplified by the women of Opus Dei.


Mhm. "In society", vaguely, just not in the top tiers of authority within the Church itself. Which is a somewhat awkward position from which to offer apparently unqualified support for radically expanding female membership of decision-making bodies elsewhere, right up to the point of it apparently being "good" if women held all the ministries in the government...
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:41 am

I think we should have an all poor people cabinet.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:47 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:I think we should have an all poor people cabinet.

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