An all-female cabinet?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

P.S. Maybe it is even better for the executive leader to be a non-human animal?

Maybe a bonobo? Definitely no pandas, you can't trust them and anyway, I want a Primate Minister!

[Katganistan]

Consider the following scenario.
The president/prime minister of the country you live in (real life country) has appointed a all-female cabinet. What would be your opinion on this matter? Would it be unfair to do this, or a great advancement of women's rights?

My opinion

I think that the cabinet should strive for a male-female balance rather than an all=female cabinet.

If they are truly the most qualified for their specific positions, then it should not matter if they are all male, all female, or any gender on the spectrum.

[Nilrahrarfan]

Consider the following scenario.
The president/prime minister of the country you live in (real life country) has appointed a all-female cabinet. What would be your opinion on this matter? Would it be unfair to do this, or a great advancement of women's rights?

My opinion

I think that the cabinet should strive for a male-female balance rather than an all=female cabinet.

Not a good idea. All it will help is the Far Left, and not for long.

[Stellar Colonies]

I do think certain powerful positions such as Minister/Secretary of the Interior need to be kept female to prevent dictatorship. The defense minister / secretary should be female unless there is actually a major war. Most importantly the executive leadership needs to be female.

This can cut down on a lot of the abuses.

Reserving some positions for one gender will do zilch for preventing abuses and dictatorships...

[Free Las Pinas]

I do think certain powerful positions such as Minister/Secretary of the Interior need to be kept female to prevent dictatorship. The defense minister / secretary should be female unless there is actually a major war. Most importantly the executive leadership needs to be female.

This can cut down on a lot of the abuses.

How does them being female factor in the quality of work? Even if the chosen people are truly good at their work, I don't see how keeping those positions exclusive to one gender does the trick.

[Sundiata]

You're doing a disservice to the example of St. Teresa of Calcutta and all of the women like her, please. The church supports female leadership and participation in all spheres of society, especially the ordinary life as exemplified by the women of Opus Dei.

Mhm. "In society", vaguely, just not in the top tiers of authority within the Church itself. Which is a somewhat awkward position from which to offer apparently unqualified support for radically expanding female membership of decision-making bodies elsewhere, right up to the point of it apparently being "good" if women held all the ministries in the government...

The church is not a democracy and neither is the kingdom of heaven. Female leadership in government and society is an important part of our moral development as a species. Nice try but the church is not a governing body. I'm fine with women holding all government ministries, it makes no difference to me.

[J o J]

I am extremely surprised to see that nearly every response to this thread supports the third option of the poll. Perhaps there is some hope left after all. However, there are indeed some outliers...

I do think certain powerful positions such as Minister/Secretary of the Interior need to be kept female to prevent dictatorship. The defense minister / secretary should be female unless there is actually a major war. Most importantly the executive leadership needs to be female.

This can cut down on a lot of the abuses.

How exactly would this policy cut down on abuse of power or ineptitude? Please, enlighten me.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I am extremely surprised to see that nearly every response to this thread supports the third option of the poll. Perhaps there is some hope left after all.

With reservations I voted the SECOND option. If there had been one like ...

"IF all impediments to women going into politics are removed, including at the party level, systemic sexism in the voting population is then accurately mapped onto representation; if then females in parliament have equal standing with males regarding qualifications and talent but with little weight on political experience, for promotion to Cabinet, they should comprise 30% to 70% of all Representatives"

... then I'd have voted for that.

I don't believe in laws to force the rate to 50%. I do believe that laws making it equally easy for a parent to spend time with their child(ren) and have control over the environment of same, while also having equal work time to a non-parent, would remove a big part of the impediment to women going into politics.

I believe it is at the Party level that women face the most obstruction, in the rise to power. This is the responsibility of each party, and let any party left behind by more than a century (since female suffrage) suffer the slings and arrows of the mostly-female voters.

Let's be clear about that. A party with a sexist selection policy for candidates, has only itself to blame if it sees the enemy party drawing further and further ahead in the women's vote and does nothing to fix its problem. I could say HOW to fix the problem, but you know what? Fuck the Republicans. They're not evil, but in a choice of evils ... they are evil. Fix your own problem.

The rest is pretty straightforward. The Cabinet should roughly represent the Caucus that it is drawn from, in term of gender. If that Party has only 30% female members, in the parliament, something around 30% in the Cabinet would be acceptable to me.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I am extremely surprised to see that nearly every response to this thread supports the third option of the poll. Perhaps there is some hope left after all.

Let me extinguish that for you.

Option 3 is "I don't know, whatever, I will just assume that however Cabinets are appointed now the right way. However the Prime Minister wants to rock it is OK with me. Voted. Did not post. Not coming back."

Never did I see a poll more needy of a joke option. So much for the poll.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Does it matter? Just get a cabinet that's competent. That matters more than that.

[Imperium of Dragonia]

A cabinet should be filled with people who are qualified for the job. Filling it with people to fit a "progressive" quota and it turns out that they weren't up to the task only brings disaster in the long term.
Then again, I'm probably gonna be called a bigot for daring to suggest that one's genitals and skin color doesn't determine if they are up to the task, but rather their skill does.

[West Leas Oros 2]

A cabinet should be filled with people who are qualified for the job. Filling it with people to fit a "progressive" quota and it turns out that they weren't up to the task only brings disaster in the long term.
Then again, I'm probably gonna be called a bigot for daring to suggest that one's genitals and skin color doesn't determine if they are up to the task, but rather their skill does.

You're a bigot for daring to suggest that one's genitals and skin color doesn't determine if they are up to the task, but rather their skill does. /s

[Cekoviu]

A cabinet should be filled with people who are qualified for the job. Filling it with people to fit a "progressive" quota and it turns out that they weren't up to the task only brings disaster in the long term.
Then again, I'm probably gonna be called a bigot for daring to suggest that one's genitals and skin color doesn't determine if they are up to the task, but rather their skill does.

well in my view the reason high-ranking positions in the government should be all female is that men are simply not suited for leadership positions, it's not to fill a "progressive quota" necessarily

[West Leas Oros 2]

A cabinet should be filled with people who are qualified for the job. Filling it with people to fit a "progressive" quota and it turns out that they weren't up to the task only brings disaster in the long term.
Then again, I'm probably gonna be called a bigot for daring to suggest that one's genitals and skin color doesn't determine if they are up to the task, but rather their skill does.

well in my view the reason high-ranking positions in the government should be all female is that men are simply not suited for leadership positions, it's not to fill a "progressive quota" necessarily

And you wonder why I have a problem with identity politics?

[Tekania]

The cabinet should be composed of people most qualified to manage the departments they are running. Their sex, race, or any other physical characteristic is immaterial. If the Person to head Housing and Urban Development is a female albino midget from African descent than all I care is that they are competent to manage the office. if they are a male albino midget of African descent instead it would be the same criteria.

[Cekoviu]

well in my view the reason high-ranking positions in the government should be all female is that men are simply not suited for leadership positions, it's not to fill a "progressive quota" necessarily

And you wonder why I have a problem with identity politics?

not really - you're a man, it's no surprise to me that your emotions would get in the way of making good political decisions

[Nejii]

And you wonder why I have a problem with identity politics?

not really - you're a man, it's no surprise to me that your emotions would get in the way of making good political decisions

Fun fact; the female emotional portion of the brain (the amygdala) is more developed (or maybe more centralized) than the male amygdala. Scientific tests aside, everyday inter-gender observation and experiences alone can prove this.

Someone quoted that a life lived without emotion is no life at all, but a life ruled by emotion (stares intensely), is utter chaos.

[Nejii]

The cabinet should be composed of people most qualified to manage the departments they are running. Their sex, race, or any other physical characteristic is immaterial. If the Person to head Housing and Urban Development is a female albino midget from African descent than all I care is that they are competent to manage the office. if they are a male albino midget of African descent instead it would be the same criteria.

I fully agree with this.

When you start loading a cabinet with unqualified individuals just to appease a quota or a militant special interest group, your forcing an agenda.

[Cekoviu]

not really - you're a man, it's no surprise to me that your emotions would get in the way of making good political decisions

Fun fact; the female emotional portion of the brain (the amygdala) is more developed (or maybe more centralized) than the male amygdala. Scientific tests aside, everyday inter-gender observation and experiences alone can prove this.

Someone quoted that a life lived without emotion is no life at all, but a life ruled by emotion (stares intensely), is utter chaos.

and yet men are far more likely to make reckless decisions and be violent criminals, fascinating

[Celritannia]

Fun fact; the female emotional portion of the brain (the amygdala) is more developed (or maybe more centralized) than the male amygdala. Scientific tests aside, everyday inter-gender observation and experiences alone can prove this.

Someone quoted that a life lived without emotion is no life at all, but a life ruled by emotion (stares intensely), is utter chaos.

and yet men are far more likely to make reckless decisions and be violent criminals, fascinating

More likely, yes. The entire male population though? Unlikely.

[New Visayan Islands]

And you wonder why I have a problem with identity politics?

not really - you're a man, it's no surprise to me that your emotions would get in the way of making good political decisions

You might want to make your intention clearer when you post. I understand what you're trying to do with turning common arguments against women around on men, but you need to make it clearer; as written the post looks like you're flaming West Leas Oro 2.

Thanks!
NVI

[West Leas Oros 2]

and yet men are far more likely to make reckless decisions and be violent criminals, fascinating

More likely, yes. The entire male population? Unlikely.

This seems like a new version of the "13%/50%".

[Celritannia]

More likely, yes. The entire male population? Unlikely.

This seems like a new version of the "13%/50%".

Not exactly, as I would ask what crimes they are committing, and why.
Focus heavily on rehabilitation and social support for most crimes that are not sexual or homicide based.

[Nejii]

Fun fact; the female emotional portion of the brain (the amygdala) is more developed (or maybe more centralized) than the male amygdala. Scientific tests aside, everyday inter-gender observation and experiences alone can prove this.

Someone quoted that a life lived without emotion is no life at all, but a life ruled by emotion (stares intensely), is utter chaos.

and yet men are far more likely to make reckless decisions and be violent criminals, fascinating

Reckless decisions such as starting fights, rushing into big decisions, or overlooking details? Much like women and their tendencies to also rush into things headfirst, as well as start workplace drama, egg on fights amongst men to appease their vindictive emotions, and irrationally blame an entire gender for their own poorly thought choices which result in being “barefoot and pregnant again”.

The male gender is not perfect, but nor is the female gender. Nuclear war over who’s shoes are prettier? Yikes. (I’m joking, I’m joking.)

[Cekoviu]

not really - you're a man, it's no surprise to me that your emotions would get in the way of making good political decisions

You might want to make your intention clearer when you post. I understand what you're trying to do with turning common arguments against women around on men, but you need to make it clearer; as written the post looks like you're flaming West Leas Oro 2.

Thanks!
NVI

i'm not quite sure how insinuating that wlo's political views are emotionally clouded and poorly thought-out is flaming (that sort of thing is very commonly done round these parts), but alright i guess

and yet men are far more likely to make reckless decisions and be violent criminals, fascinating

More likely, yes. The entire male population though? Unlikely.

sure, but those general trends do help the argument that men are on average more influenced to do harm by emotions than womyn (plus these trends seem to occur in every culture, so it's clearly something specific to males and not solely due to culture). if we lack full matriarchy, we should at least more carefully vet men than women and that'd of course end up skewing the ratios a bit.