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Well folks, it's that time again. Massive fires are burning across the west coast and they're even worse than last year, since 2020 is the year of disasters on acid, and thousands have had to flee their homes for safety as walls of flame engulf entire towns and wipe them off the planet. As the situation continues to deteriorate, all eyes are on portland, where months of unrest have given way to a city under seige not by federal agents and protesters, but by massive wildfires that close in from all sides. The city is currently under a fire warning and has the worst air quality in the world. This comes after the sun was blocked out in California by the smoke and many are asking, when the hell will the fires cease?

So what are your thoughts NSers? How long do you think this inferno will rage for? Do you think Portland will burn? When will the sun come back out? Is this a sign of worse things to come in a changing climate?

Thankfully there's no fires directly near my area but the smoke is still really bad.

It's gonna be disastrously bad if it reaches the suburbs of Portland. Genuinely that would be a disaster on an unprecedented scale for the modern US, it would rip through the city.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Thankfully there's no fires directly near my area but the smoke is still really bad.

It's gonna be disastrously bad if it reaches the suburbs of Portland. Genuinely that would be a disaster on an unprecedented scale for the modern US, it would rip through the city.

Yeah ain't portland a "green city?" So basically food for a fire.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Thankfully there's no fires directly near my area but the smoke is still really bad.

It's gonna be disastrously bad if it reaches the suburbs of Portland. Genuinely that would be a disaster on an unprecedented scale for the modern US, it would rip through the city.

Yeah ain't portland a "green city?" So basically food for a fire.

It's not too different from other cities from the times I've visited imo but just all that stuff packed together would be awful. Fires move fast, it wouldn't take long for most of the city to be in flames if it did hit.

The smoke is a real problem, even for people who aren't immediately in the fires. It's probably going to be a health crisis in the future.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah ain't portland a "green city?" So basically food for a fire.

It's not too different from other cities from the times I've visited imo but just all that stuff packed together would be awful. Fires move fast, it wouldn't take long for most of the city to be in flames if it did hit.

I think we should start discussing the strategic value of moats for city defense again.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah ain't portland a "green city?" So basically food for a fire.

It's not too different from other cities from the times I've visited imo but just all that stuff packed together would be awful. Fires move fast, it wouldn't take long for most of the city to be in flames if it did hit.

I remember when Casabalas burned down last year. Horrific stuff.

Rusozak wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's not too different from other cities from the times I've visited imo but just all that stuff packed together would be awful. Fires move fast, it wouldn't take long for most of the city to be in flames if it did hit.

I think we should start discussing the strategic value of moats for city defense again.

Maybe dry moats...

Geneviev wrote:The smoke is a real problem, even for people who aren't immediately in the fires. It's probably going to be a health crisis in the future.

Theyre telling people to not go outside. It's as toxic out there as it is in a college sociology class.

I'm a state away, and the smoke has blanketed my town, since it's trapped beneath the mountains. Godspeed to Cali/Or/WA, I can't imagine what that must be like. It's tragic.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Geneviev wrote:The smoke is a real problem, even for people who aren't immediately in the fires. It's probably going to be a health crisis in the future.

Theyre telling people to not go outside. It's as toxic out there as it is in a college sociology class.

I know I'm having real trouble with it myself, too. It's the whole West Coast.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Well folks, it's that time again. Massive fires are burning across the west coast and they're even worse than last year, since 2020 is the year of disasters on acid, and thousands have had to flee their homes for safety as walls of flame engulf entire towns and wipe them off the planet. As the situation continues to deteriorate, all eyes are on portland, where months of unrest have given way to a city under seige not by federal agents and protesters, but by massive wildfires that close in from all sides. The city is currently under a fire warning and has the worst air quality in the world. This comes after the sun was blocked out in California by the smoke and many are asking, when the hell will the fires cease?

So what are your thoughts NSers? How long do you think this inferno will rage for? Do you think Portland will burn? When will the sun come back out? Is this a sign of worse things to come in a changing climate?

In China（I live in China）
There is a newspaper saying 'fire wont reach the city,and smoke is stoped by terrain,so citizens just treat this as a rare scenery,many get out to watch it.'

Of course ,I dont think it is a good thing(I dont agree with this newspaper,for some other reasons).But government must have many ways to end it,right?

Hey one bright side to the pandemic is we all had masks already to deal with the smoke

Willtime wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Well folks, it's that time again. Massive fires are burning across the west coast and they're even worse than last year, since 2020 is the year of disasters on acid, and thousands have had to flee their homes for safety as walls of flame engulf entire towns and wipe them off the planet. As the situation continues to deteriorate, all eyes are on portland, where months of unrest have given way to a city under seige not by federal agents and protesters, but by massive wildfires that close in from all sides. The city is currently under a fire warning and has the worst air quality in the world. This comes after the sun was blocked out in California by the smoke and many are asking, when the hell will the fires cease?

So what are your thoughts NSers? How long do you think this inferno will rage for? Do you think Portland will burn? When will the sun come back out? Is this a sign of worse things to come in a changing climate?

In China（I live in China）
There is a newspaper saying 'fire wont reach the city,and smoke is stoped by terrain,so citizens just treat this as a rare scenery,many get out to watch it.'

Of course ,I dont think it is a good thing(I dont agree with this newspaper,for some other reasons).But government must have many ways to end it,right?

Everybody gangsta till the firefighters have to run away from the fire.

I am away from the flames.

Smoke and ash fall has been a problem. Nothing like starting your day with smoke and white ash. If it had been black ash I would have thought the fire nation was attacking.

I had orange skys and lighting for a few days. Odd sensation. Now it’s a foggy (smoke though) day.

A friend is a smoke jumper and he is going through PTSD from all the activity.

Not ending anytime soon. A few friends have been told to escape. Almost like a war.....

Willtime wrote:.But government must have many ways to end it,right?

ahahahahaha

The current plan is "throw men and water at it them 'till they stop"

Willtime wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Well folks, it's that time again. Massive fires are burning across the west coast and they're even worse than last year, since 2020 is the year of disasters on acid, and thousands have had to flee their homes for safety as walls of flame engulf entire towns and wipe them off the planet. As the situation continues to deteriorate, all eyes are on portland, where months of unrest have given way to a city under seige not by federal agents and protesters, but by massive wildfires that close in from all sides. The city is currently under a fire warning and has the worst air quality in the world. This comes after the sun was blocked out in California by the smoke and many are asking, when the hell will the fires cease?

So what are your thoughts NSers? How long do you think this inferno will rage for? Do you think Portland will burn? When will the sun come back out? Is this a sign of worse things to come in a changing climate?

In China（I live in China）
There is a newspaper saying 'fire wont reach the city,and smoke is stoped by terrain,so citizens just treat this as a rare scenery,many get out to watch it.'

Of course ,I dont think it is a good thing(I dont agree with this newspaper,for some other reasons).But government must have many ways to end it,right?

I don't know of anyone watching the fires?

Kowani wrote:

Willtime wrote:.But government must have many ways to end it,right?

ahahahahaha

The current plan is "throw men and water at it them 'till they stop"

how else do you fight fires?

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Willtime wrote:

In China（I live in China）
There is a newspaper saying 'fire wont reach the city,and smoke is stoped by terrain,so citizens just treat this as a rare scenery,many get out to watch it.'

Of course ,I dont think it is a good thing(I dont agree with this newspaper,for some other reasons).But government must have many ways to end it,right?

Everybody gangsta till the firefighters have to run away from the fire.

Terrible.Stoping fire means the government need to fight against nature,now they need to fight against people at same time?
A hard work.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Kowani wrote:ahahahahaha

The current plan is "throw men and water at it them 'till they stop"

how else do you fight fires?

Call Russell Crowe and have him fight it.

"Oi you wanna fight me you bugger?"

Willtime wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Everybody gangsta till the firefighters have to run away from the fire.

Terrible.Stoping fire means the government need to fight against nature,now they need to fight against people at same time?
A hard work.

They ran because the fire is that bad. They gave it all they got and it couldn't be beaten back, so they had to choose safety or burning to death, and they chose safety.

Geneviev wrote:

Willtime wrote:

In China（I live in China）
There is a newspaper saying 'fire wont reach the city,and smoke is stoped by terrain,so citizens just treat this as a rare scenery,many get out to watch it.'

Of course ,I dont think it is a good thing(I dont agree with this newspaper,for some other reasons).But government must have many ways to end it,right?

I don't know of anyone watching the fires?

The newspaper says there are someone watching the red sky.
And I dont think I will do that,if I am there,I will try to escape or at least store water.
(As I say,I dont agree with this newspaper.)

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Well folks, it's that time again. Massive fires are burning across the west coast and they're even worse than last year, since 2020 is the year of disasters on acid, and thousands have had to flee their homes for safety as walls of flame engulf entire towns and wipe them off the planet. As the situation continues to deteriorate, all eyes are on portland, where months of unrest have given way to a city under seige not by federal agents and protesters, but by massive wildfires that close in from all sides. The city is currently under a fire warning and has the worst air quality in the world. This comes after the sun was blocked out in California by the smoke and many are asking, when the hell will the fires cease?

So what are your thoughts NSers? How long do you think this inferno will rage for? Do you think Portland will burn? When will the sun come back out? Is this a sign of worse things to come in a changing climate?

Portland proper won't burn. Most of the bigger Clackamas county suburbs that are closer to Portland probably won't burn either. It was supposed to be 85 F today, but the smoke was so thick idk if it even got to 70 F.

The weather forecast says it'll rain next Tuesday, and go back to normal September weather after that.