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Postby Kowani » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:07 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kowani wrote:the hell


That's actually the most incomprehensible thing I've heard all week.

I mean, what else did you have to rely on back in the day?

Cellphones with texting and other instant messaging apps didn't exist or become popular until the mid 00's.

Mate, I find the concept of writing letters to be more easily understood than sending emails for casual communication.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:43 am

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I didnt have internet access at home till age 13. When I was a kid, we lived in an apartment and then in a run down house with cracks in the walls, cold drafts and leaks, so we weren't up to date on tech.

My mom still hasn't gotten past 1999. She thinks I email my friends and don't just text them, and she once volunteered to "spring for tickets" to the dance for me and my now ex girlfriend. Not the Asian one, the Arab one. That's a tangent but I have enough ex's to write my own Taylor swift song. But anyways, my mom is very behind the times even now.

...People sent emails as a form of casual communication?


Back in the day they did. My mom never advanced past the Good Old days.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:05 pm

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Postby Cordel One » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:16 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/16/oregon-fires-armed-civilian-roadblocks-police

Shit is getting even more fucked.

Most of the land above Sacramento and below Portland is the domain of the redneck with a hero complex.

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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:21 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/16/oregon-fires-armed-civilian-roadblocks-police

Shit is getting even more fucked.


Fail to see the problem here.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:05 pm

Loben III wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/16/oregon-fires-armed-civilian-roadblocks-police

Shit is getting even more fucked.


Fail to see the problem here.


You don't see a problem with a bunch of paranoid lunatics with firearms trying to stop non-existent left-wing terrorists?
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:07 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Loben III wrote:
Fail to see the problem here.


You don't see a problem with a bunch of paranoid lunatics with firearms trying to stop non-existent left-wing terrorists?


you see paranoid lunatics and i see concerned citizens who are keeping an eye on strangers.
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:26 pm

Loben III wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You don't see a problem with a bunch of paranoid lunatics with firearms trying to stop non-existent left-wing terrorists?


you see paranoid lunatics and i see concerned citizens who are keeping an eye on strangers.

That's a strange way of saying "forcibly stopping and threatening them over a nonexistent issue".

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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:44 pm

Cordel One wrote:
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you see paranoid lunatics and i see concerned citizens who are keeping an eye on strangers.

That's a strange way of saying "forcibly stopping and threatening them over a nonexistent issue".

I’d say an influx of people running from a wild fire is an issue.
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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:33 pm


I would make a joke about how 5G kills birds, but then again it might be about as much of the truth as Climate Change (which is to say not true).
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:38 pm

Loben III wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You don't see a problem with a bunch of paranoid lunatics with firearms trying to stop non-existent left-wing terrorists?


you see paranoid lunatics and i see concerned citizens who are keeping an eye on strangers.


Illegally.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:06 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Loben III wrote:
you see paranoid lunatics and i see concerned citizens who are keeping an eye on strangers.


Illegally.


In case you've missed pretty much this entire year the rule of law doesn't mean much anymore it seems.
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Postby Loben III » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:46 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Loben III wrote:
you see paranoid lunatics and i see concerned citizens who are keeping an eye on strangers.


Illegally.


I’m sure the sherif will disarm them any day now.
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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:27 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/16/oregon-fires-armed-civilian-roadblocks-police

Shit is getting even more fucked.

It's official: Centrism is dead. There's now only various degrees of extremism.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:10 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Loben III wrote:
Fail to see the problem here.


You don't see a problem with a bunch of paranoid lunatics with firearms trying to stop non-existent left-wing terrorists?


I am sure they will only detain people who do not look like they belong.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:10 am

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/16/oregon-fires-armed-civilian-roadblocks-police

Shit is getting even more fucked.

It's official: Centrism is dead. There's now only various degrees of extremism.


Dont worry Trump will deputize these people to ensure a free and fair election in Portland.
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Postby Cordel One » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:12 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You don't see a problem with a bunch of paranoid lunatics with firearms trying to stop non-existent left-wing terrorists?


I am sure they will only detain people who do not look like they belong.

Racial profiling time

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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:28 pm

Loben III wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Illegally.


I’m sure the sherif will disarm them any day now.


Oh they won't, because it's a bunch of rednecks racially profiling people and conducting illegal activities instead of law enforcement.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:22 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:
I am sure they will only detain people who do not look like they belong.

Racial profiling time

It is only profiling if the police do it. Mobs can't be held to the same standard.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:24 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Racial profiling time

It is only profiling if the police do it. Mobs can't be held to the same standard.

lol, lotta rural Oregon is super racist.

So yes they can.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:44 pm

New haven america wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:It is only profiling if the police do it. Mobs can't be held to the same standard.

lol, lotta rural Oregon is super racist.

So yes they can.


Someone needs to just drive straight through their dumb ass roadblock. Fuck them, there's a fire, and if they're too stupid to get out of the way before their roadblock construction gets turned to destruction then I guess nothing of value was lost. They better jump and duck. If it was me I would floor it, cause I'm not about to burn to ash.
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Postby Mirjt » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:04 am

If we want to lessen the impact of these wildfires in the future, then we need to practice better forest management, we need controlled burns, we need a healthy forest ecosystem with a diverse set of foliage, we need barriers that break-up the range of the fires, we need to slow climate change for a number of reasons. We should also invest in technologies and infrastructure to better preserve air quality for human residents when a wildfire does breakout.
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