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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:47 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:If ya have a brain and are willin to do research. It shouldn't


I'm still very much worried about the prospects of Nuclear.
Extracting uranium to power nuclear generators is a very toxic process - as seen with the mess Rio Tinto was left in over their uranium mine in the Top End - and there are certain safeguards that have to be followed. Uranium-238 has a half-lifeof 4.48 billion years and uranium-235 has a half-life of 703 million. Goodness knows what would happen if uranium or the by-products of the extraction process leached into a water table on the scale of Kakadu. I don't know much but I do know that the result would be very, very ugly.

Shouldn't be a problem. Mining process isn't too bad

And even in our modern day, with all the technology in the world to prevent another Chernobyl or Fukushima,
even the best plans can fail. It isn't possible to eliminate every vulnerability. Things can go wrong. Nuclear power may be cleaner than using coal or liquid-natural, shale, coal seam or tight gas, and I would actually prefer it if renewables didn't exist.

Chernobyl was because of RBMK design flaws, gross safety disgrace and political publicity. Fukushima was an anomaly due to natural disasters, it could have been avoided if they placed it in an area thats NOT known well for tsunamis. Cananda hasn't had a problem with nuclear power and they produce about 10GW. Same with France and they produce 40GW
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Postby Perikuresu » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:32 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:If ya have a brain and are willin to do research. It shouldn't


I'm still very much worried about the prospects of Nuclear.
Extracting uranium to power nuclear generators is a very toxic process - as seen with the mess Rio Tinto was left in over their uranium mine in the Top End - and there are certain safeguards that have to be followed. Uranium-238 has a half-lifeof 4.48 billion years and uranium-235 has a half-life of 703 million. Goodness knows what would happen if uranium or the by-products of the extraction process leached into a water table on the scale of Kakadu. I don't know much but I do know that the result would be very, very ugly.

And even in our modern day, with all the technology in the world to prevent another Chernobyl or Fukushima,
even the best plans can fail. It isn't possible to eliminate every vulnerability. Things can go wrong. Nuclear power may be cleaner than using coal or liquid-natural, shale, coal seam or tight gas, and I would actually prefer it if renewables didn't exist.

What sort of turns me off from nuclear-fired energy is the memory of what happened in Chernobyl,
and the fear of land/water contamination if the extraction process goes wrong somehow.


Renewables is the best option but if we have to go Nuclear, well it can do great things, if placed under great Government regulation and uhhhh. Yeah. Liberals. Ha.

I've heard rather using Uranium, we can use Thorium, because it's less dangerous to mine, produces waaaaay less nuclear waste and creates more energy but I've yet to hear a downside to it
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:19 pm

Perikuresu wrote:
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
I'm still very much worried about the prospects of Nuclear.
Extracting uranium to power nuclear generators is a very toxic process - as seen with the mess Rio Tinto was left in over their uranium mine in the Top End - and there are certain safeguards that have to be followed. Uranium-238 has a half-lifeof 4.48 billion years and uranium-235 has a half-life of 703 million. Goodness knows what would happen if uranium or the by-products of the extraction process leached into a water table on the scale of Kakadu. I don't know much but I do know that the result would be very, very ugly.

And even in our modern day, with all the technology in the world to prevent another Chernobyl or Fukushima,
even the best plans can fail. It isn't possible to eliminate every vulnerability. Things can go wrong. Nuclear power may be cleaner than using coal or liquid-natural, shale, coal seam or tight gas, and I would actually prefer it if renewables didn't exist.

What sort of turns me off from nuclear-fired energy is the memory of what happened in Chernobyl,
and the fear of land/water contamination if the extraction process goes wrong somehow.


Renewables is the best option but if we have to go Nuclear, well it can do great things, if placed under great Government regulation and uhhhh. Yeah. Liberals. Ha.

I've heard rather using Uranium, we can use Thorium, because it's less dangerous to mine, produces waaaaay less nuclear waste and creates more energy but I've yet to hear a downside to it


There really isn't one save for the time factor involved in building a nuke. Because thorium salt reactors use liquid fuel, it's physically impossible for a meltdown to ever take place.
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:30 pm

Perikuresu wrote:
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
I'm still very much worried about the prospects of Nuclear.
Extracting uranium to power nuclear generators is a very toxic process - as seen with the mess Rio Tinto was left in over their uranium mine in the Top End - and there are certain safeguards that have to be followed. Uranium-238 has a half-lifeof 4.48 billion years and uranium-235 has a half-life of 703 million. Goodness knows what would happen if uranium or the by-products of the extraction process leached into a water table on the scale of Kakadu. I don't know much but I do know that the result would be very, very ugly.

And even in our modern day, with all the technology in the world to prevent another Chernobyl or Fukushima,
even the best plans can fail. It isn't possible to eliminate every vulnerability. Things can go wrong. Nuclear power may be cleaner than using coal or liquid-natural, shale, coal seam or tight gas, and I would actually prefer it if renewables didn't exist.

What sort of turns me off from nuclear-fired energy is the memory of what happened in Chernobyl,
and the fear of land/water contamination if the extraction process goes wrong somehow.


Renewables is the best option but if we have to go Nuclear, well it can do great things, if placed under great Government regulation and uhhhh. Yeah. Liberals. Ha.

I've heard rather using Uranium, we can use Thorium, because it's less dangerous to mine, produces waaaaay less nuclear waste and creates more energy but I've yet to hear a downside to it

Thorium is still theoretical. You're better off using Uranium and Plutonium nowadays
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Postby Perikuresu » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:48 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:
Renewables is the best option but if we have to go Nuclear, well it can do great things, if placed under great Government regulation and uhhhh. Yeah. Liberals. Ha.

I've heard rather using Uranium, we can use Thorium, because it's less dangerous to mine, produces waaaaay less nuclear waste and creates more energy but I've yet to hear a downside to it

Thorium is still theoretical. You're better off using Uranium and Plutonium nowadays

Hopefully the theory turns out to be correct
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:52 am

I hear the Government wants to crack down on anonymous social media accounts to help stop domestic abuse. Twitter's up in arms again.

On some level I can agree that DV is a major problem.
On another hand, privacy needs to be protected - and given Big Tech's sh*tty record on privacy -
especially Google and Facebook, who sell it to advertisers - and this government's record on passing laws like Metadata Retention - which the NSA said didn't aid in stopping any terrorist plots or attacks.

So yeah, DV is needed - and abusers need to be stopped - but I can't trust the government or Big Tech on this one.
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:13 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I wanna write an email to give Scomo suggestions about how to improve our country's manufacturing industry, beyond asking people nicely to buy Australian made products. Any ideas?


Inject billions into the car manufacturing industry, and then ask Disney/Pixar to come here to make the 4th Cars movie.
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Postby Perikuresu » Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:34 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I wanna write an email to give Scomo suggestions about how to improve our country's manufacturing industry, beyond asking people nicely to buy Australian made products. Any ideas?

I've heard that we can make steel without any carbon emissions using renewable energy sooo that?
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Postby Imperial isa » Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:37 am

Seeing the government said we be starting to make our own missiles why don't they look into make our own computer chips that could be used in them as well.
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:09 am

Who reckons our classification system needs an update, especially for the Internet?
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Postby Perikuresu » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:35 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:Who reckons our classification system needs an update, especially for the Internet?

we just need to make our internet better than Kazakhstan
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:29 am

Who do you think was the best Prime Minister in Australia's history?
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Postby The Greater Antipodes » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:15 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:Who do you think was the best Prime Minister in Australia's history?


John Curtin
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:35 pm

I'm so glad that Scomo tore up Dan Andrews' foreign deals were torn up! Bloody hell Danny, what are you doing making deals with these evil regimes around the world? I wonder how silent FirendlyJordies will remain about this
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Postby Perikuresu » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:02 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:I'm so glad that Scomo tore up Dan Andrews' foreign deals were torn up! Bloody hell Danny, what are you doing making deals with these evil regimes around the world? I wonder how silent FirendlyJordies will remain about this

Unfortunately Friendlyjordies has a tankie's take on China

I've yet to watch his ScoMao video tho
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:28 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:I'm so glad that Scomo tore up Dan Andrews' foreign deals were torn up! Bloody hell Danny, what are you doing making deals with these evil regimes around the world? I wonder how silent FirendlyJordies will remain about this

Both are shit. I just want Hawke or Abbott back
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Postby Perikuresu » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:31 pm

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I'm so glad that Scomo tore up Dan Andrews' foreign deals were torn up! Bloody hell Danny, what are you doing making deals with these evil regimes around the world? I wonder how silent FirendlyJordies will remain about this

Both are shit. I just want Hawke or Abbott back

I agree with Hawke, go eat a raw Onion if you want Tony Abbott back tho
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Postby Imperial isa » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:23 am

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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:57 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I wonder how silent FirendlyJordies will remain about this


JuiceMedia certainly didnt stay quiet on Victorias proposed EV tax.

Besides, Jordies has bigger f1sh to fry, as always, given he tore Wollongong events company
Yours & Owls a new anus lately, and is releasing a doco on water corruption.

(Also, if I absolutely could, I'd start a party called the Regional Australia Party and offer it as a better alt. to the Nats, considering Michael West, great investigative journalist, reported on the Nationals' recent cases of domain squatting and accepting donations from tobacco companies, of all things, so if in future there is a huge downturn of trust in the Nats, I'd start campaigning in electorates to give ppl what they want; jobs, growth and environmental protection)

Also, just asking, but outside of being a fanboy of the ALP, Shooters, Fishers and Farmers, Bank Australia-ME Bank, Future Super, IA, Michael West Media, and Ecosia fanboy,
what is your opinion on Jordies? (again, outside of his political bent)
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Postby Perikuresu » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:22 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I wonder how silent FirendlyJordies will remain about this


JuiceMedia certainly didnt stay quiet on Victorias proposed EV tax.

Besides, Jordies has bigger f1sh to fry, as always, given he tore Wollongong events company
Yours & Owls a new anus lately, and is releasing a doco on water corruption.

(Also, if I absolutely could, I'd start a party called the Regional Australia Party and offer it as a better alt. to the Nats, considering Michael West, great investigative journalist, reported on the Nationals' recent cases of domain squatting and accepting donations from tobacco companies, of all things, so if in future there is a huge downturn of trust in the Nats, I'd start campaigning in electorates to give ppl what they want; jobs, growth and environmental protection)

Also, just asking, but outside of being a fanboy of the ALP, Shooters, Fishers and Farmers, Bank Australia-ME Bank, Future Super, IA, Michael West Media, and Ecosia fanboy,
what is your opinion on Jordies? (again, outside of his political bent)


I think he's pretty spot on with Australian politics, although he does have a lot of tankie takes, especially on China
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:34 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I wonder how silent FirendlyJordies will remain about this


JuiceMedia certainly didnt stay quiet on Victorias proposed EV tax.

Besides, Jordies has bigger f1sh to fry, as always, given he tore Wollongong events company

A political comminator has bigger fish to fry than selling our country to malignant foreign governments? Like what? "Spanian: King of the Lads"?

(Also, if I absolutely could, I'd start a party called the Regional Australia Party and offer it as a better alt. to the Nats, considering Michael West, great investigative journalist, reported on the Nationals' recent cases of domain squatting and accepting donations from tobacco companies, of all things, so if in future there is a huge downturn of trust in the Nats, I'd start campaigning in electorates to give ppl what they want; jobs, growth and environmental protection)

What your policies be?

Also, just asking, but outside of being a fanboy of the ALP, Shooters, Fishers and Farmers, Bank Australia-ME Bank, Future Super, IA, Michael West Media, and Ecosia fanboy,
what is your opinion on Jordies? (again, outside of his political bent)

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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:36 am

Perikuresu wrote:
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
JuiceMedia certainly didnt stay quiet on Victorias proposed EV tax.

Besides, Jordies has bigger f1sh to fry, as always, given he tore Wollongong events company
Yours & Owls a new anus lately, and is releasing a doco on water corruption.

(Also, if I absolutely could, I'd start a party called the Regional Australia Party and offer it as a better alt. to the Nats, considering Michael West, great investigative journalist, reported on the Nationals' recent cases of domain squatting and accepting donations from tobacco companies, of all things, so if in future there is a huge downturn of trust in the Nats, I'd start campaigning in electorates to give ppl what they want; jobs, growth and environmental protection)

Also, just asking, but outside of being a fanboy of the ALP, Shooters, Fishers and Farmers, Bank Australia-ME Bank, Future Super, IA, Michael West Media, and Ecosia fanboy,
what is your opinion on Jordies? (again, outside of his political bent)


I think he's pretty spot on with Australian politics,

You mean when he's not bowing down and worshipping his gods in the ALP?
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:42 am

Its disgusting seeing the media still milking out the Port Arthur Massacre trying to get dosh while pushing their agenda. I even saw one saying Martin Bryant has 150k round of ammo! Thats about 10-12 tonnes of .308, 5.56x45mm and 12 Gauge
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:19 am

Australian rePublic wrote:A political comminator has bigger fish to fry than selling our country to malignant foreign governments? Like what? "Spanian: King of the Lads"?


OK, that video was sorta sucky.

What your policies be?


1. Investing in renewable energy jobs, or at least industries
that create more jobs than fossil fuel extraction, which create some jobs,
but not as many as say, McDonalds or local mom and pop shops.

2. Not trying to seem like a country Labor party, but doing what is
in the best interests of the electorate, and listening to hear what they want.

3. Infrastructure projects, like upgrading key road hotspots, upgrading notorious
railway crossings, like what the Brumby Gov. did following the Kerrang accident,
(but somehow not before consecutive accidents at Lismore and Trawalla in regional Victoria),
and new subdivisions, so families can settle at say, idk, Junee, and send their kids to school,
after which they can attend uni in Wagga, for example, or get a job in the area.

4. Properly fund public schools (since our education system isn't in the best shape right now)

5. Consult with farmers and listen for key issues (such as drought)

6. Build a huge Mount Franklin water bottle (made out of biodegradables) and use it as a backup
to a major town's water supply. Attracts tourism too (just kidding)

B Grade. Not really that funny, but he occassionally has a doozie


Doozie?
Like what?
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:21 am

Australian rePublic wrote:[
You mean when he's not bowing down and worshipping his gods in the ALP?



Not just the ALP.

Shooters & Fishers, other independent news outlets,
Future Super and Bank Australia.
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