Australian Political & Infrastructure Discussion Thread

[Perikuresu]

Anything on Friendlyjordies recently?

He's back to uploading weekly, and he's happy that Chris Minns won the NSW Election, recent posts are non political but more fun videos although I've yet to watch his video on the Housing Crisis which I desperately have to.

Other than housing crisis and another whistleblower video most of his recent political uploads were relating to John Barilaro's corrupt deeds and mass logging of Koala habitat that happened under the Coalition government rule of NSW.

[El Lazaro]

Hey Aussies, this isn’t strictly political, but apparently there’s a solar eclipse that basically only you can see. Seems kind of … targeted tbh. Is there some way that y’all could prove you’re not extraterrestrials pretending to be a former British prison colony?

[Australian rePublic]

Hey Aussies, this isn’t strictly political, but apparently there’s a solar eclipse that basically only you can see. Seems kind of … targeted tbh. Is there some way that y’all could prove you’re not extraterrestrials pretending to be a former British prison colony?

Wouldn't. Too cloudy here

[Australian rePublic]

One thing that fail to address when discussing reconsilation with our Indigenous peoples is- the disparity in which it's worked. In some parts of Australia, Indigenous people are really successful.

Take Uluru for example, the resort is Indigenous owned and well run to the point where the elders will punish members of their mob by not allowing them to play sports if they refuse to work/go to school, and on the other end of the spectrum, we have Alice Springs, which is a failed state and threatens the stability of Australia. I can understand that comparing one group of Indigenous Australians is like comparing Greeks to Spaniards or Vietnamese people to Koreans, which then begs the question- is the issue cultural disparity between the various Indigenous communities, or is it something much larger?

If the former, wouldn't it be better to focus on each cultural group on an individual level? And if the later, we have to ask ourselves why, what bigger forces are at play here? I want to see our Indigenous Australians be successful and prosperous, and I want to see the gap being closed between the Indigenous population and the general population, but in order to do that, I suppose we have to ask why some groups of Indigenous Australians are in a better position than others.

Surely addressing the disparity will help us close the gap. Now, I don't want to speak on behalf of Indigenous peoples, so I will end the discussion here, and would like an input from actual Indeginous people

[Australian rePublic]

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-n ... inta-price

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price is appointed as Shadow Minister of Indigenous Affairs, with some even speculating that she may vety well be our first Indeginous prime minister (since federation). I for one would welcome price as PM. I think she'd be really good at the job. Price is one of those politicians who actually gives a fuck about her community and Australia as a whole, which is a welcome change

[Perikuresu]

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/18/karen-andrews-liberal-mp-quits-shadow-cabinet-retiring-peter-dutton-front-bench-reshuffle-jacinta-price

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price is appointed as Shadow Minister of Indigenous Affairs, with some even speculating that she may vety well be our first Indeginous prime minister (since federation). I for one would welcome price as PM. I think she'd be really good at the job. Price is one of those politicians who actually gives a fuck about her community and Australia as a whole, which is a welcome change

Didn't she and Dutton claim that the NT children authorities were sending children back to their abusive parents and then didn't report that to the police nor did they have any statistics to back up their claims?

Not saying that makes Price a bad PM, just pointing that out that this makes her seem like someone who cares more about her own agenda and career than community.

[Emus Republic Of Australia]

oh cool a australia thread

[Imperial isa]

Well Barry Humphries has pass away.

[Perikuresu]

Well Barry Humphries has pass away.

I never rlly watched Dame Edna but I feel a really big sense of loss here.

Goodbye Possums for the final time....

[Australian rePublic]

Petition to make I am, you are, we are Australian our national anthem. It's so fucking good, and explains EXACTLY who we are as Australia to a tea. That song brings me to the verge of crying from patriotism and weep for our wonderful, wonderful country, and it's so much better than that Advanced Australia Fair crap that inspires me to sleep. It's a fucking dud. Coming from Greek ancestry, the Greek national anthem inspires me to take up arms and fight for Greece, as the Greek national anthem represents who we are as a country and why we have fought to protect our Greekness over the centuries, an anthem I am proud of, an anthem that would make me want to die for Greece- ditto for I am, You Are, We Are Australian. Playing I am, You Are, We Are Australian on a battlefield will remind us what we're fighting for, and how much Australia is truly truly worth fighting for- and even in peace time, I am, You Are, We Are Australia reminds us of how wonderful she is as a country, almost bringing to tears. Advanced Australia Fair, on the other hand...

For context, here's the Greek national anthem with English lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VkPRU6C-JQ
Here it is sung legibly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5psd0qpjls

I don't know why people upload national anthems to YouTube sung in such crappy, ineligible manners, or why they even record it like that in the first place

Sorry, just getting all patriotic before ANZAC Day, carry on with your life

[Australian rePublic]

Well Barry Humphries has pass away.

Rest in peace

[Australian rePublic]

Greens Member for Newtown, Jenny Leong, is the biggest bullshit artist in the history of ever. She's claiming that the Greens aren't contributing to the housing shortage through NIMBYism when in reality, her seat is the worst for NIMBYism thanks to Greens' councils. It's not even some far flung seat at the opposite end of the country- it's her fucking seat where the Greens' held council is preventing new appartments, then she has the gaul to claim that thr Greens aren't preventing the construction of new housing through NIMBYism. How fucking stupid does she think we are. I don't know how anyone has the gaul to tell such blatant lies to the people she's supposed to be representing. Gosh am I pisser with the bullshit. The gaul. I haven't been this pissed off with a politician since ScoMo fucked off to Hawaii during the fires. Seriously, the amount of bullshit coming out of that woman's mouth is astonishing. I mean, I know that politicans have to bullshit as part of their job, but her bullshit is next level. Not just next level, next 247 levels. I've never heard so much bullshit in my life. How stupid does she think we are???

[Dazchan]

Greens Member for Newtown, Jenny Leong, is the biggest bullshit artist in the history of ever. She's claiming that the Greens aren't contributing to the housing shortage through NIMBYism when in reality, her seat is the worst for NIMBYism thanks to Greens' councils. It's not even some far flung seat at the opposite end of the country- it's her fucking seat where the Greens' held council is preventing new appartments, then she has the gaul to claim that thr Greens aren't preventing the construction of new housing through NIMBYism. How fucking stupid does she think we are. I don't know how anyone has the gaul to tell such blatant lies to the people she's supposed to be representing. Gosh am I pisser with the bullshit. The gaul. I haven't been this pissed off with a politician since ScoMo fucked off to Hawaii during the fires. Seriously, the amount of bullshit coming out of that woman's mouth is astonishing. I mean, I know that politicans have to bullshit as part of their job, but her bullshit is next level. Not just next level, next 247 levels. I've never heard so much bullshit in my life. How stupid does she think we are???

Which of the two LGAs that cover Newtown are you claiming is a “Greens’ council”, the City of Sydney, in which the Greens hold one seat (10%), or the Inner West Council, in which the Greens hold five seats (33%)?

And also, why do you feel that the Member for Newtown, who is not part of the Government, nor a councilor in either of the two LGAs, is responsible for development applications?

[Australian rePublic]

Greens Member for Newtown, Jenny Leong, is the biggest bullshit artist in the history of ever. She's claiming that the Greens aren't contributing to the housing shortage through NIMBYism when in reality, her seat is the worst for NIMBYism thanks to Greens' councils. It's not even some far flung seat at the opposite end of the country- it's her fucking seat where the Greens' held council is preventing new appartments, then she has the gaul to claim that thr Greens aren't preventing the construction of new housing through NIMBYism. How fucking stupid does she think we are. I don't know how anyone has the gaul to tell such blatant lies to the people she's supposed to be representing. Gosh am I pisser with the bullshit. The gaul. I haven't been this pissed off with a politician since ScoMo fucked off to Hawaii during the fires. Seriously, the amount of bullshit coming out of that woman's mouth is astonishing. I mean, I know that politicans have to bullshit as part of their job, but her bullshit is next level. Not just next level, next 247 levels. I've never heard so much bullshit in my life. How stupid does she think we are???

Which of the two LGAs that cover Newtown are you claiming is a “Greens’ council”, the City of Sydney, in which the Greens hold one seat (10%), or the Inner West Council, in which the Greens hold five seats (33%)?

And also, why do you feel that the Member for Newtown, who is not part of the Government, nor a councilor in either of the two LGAs, is responsible for development applications?

The Inner West council. I'm, not saying she's responsible for it, I'm saying she's bullshitting

[Dazchan]

I'm, not saying she's responsible for it, I'm saying she's bullshitting

Well, let's just look at that claim a little deeper.

Your claim:

Greens Member for Newtown, Jenny Leong, is the biggest bullshit artist in the history of ever. She's claiming that the Greens aren't contributing to the housing shortage through NIMBYism when in reality, her seat is the worst for NIMBYism thanks to Greens' councils.It's not even some far flung seat at the opposite end of the country- it's her fucking seat where the Greens' held council is preventing new appartments, then she has the gaul to claim that thr Greens aren't preventing the construction of new housing through NIMBYism.

Reality:
1. The Greens have a clearly documented opposition to overdevelopment. They don't oppose development of Newtown because it's their seat, they oppose development in Newtown because it's already overpopulated and the infrastructure in the area is struggling to keep up. The Greens want to see development of rural areas rather than cramming more people into already full cities. That isn't NIMBYism, it's common sense.
2. Neither of the two councils that operate within the State Electoral Division of Newtown can accurately be described as a "Greens" Council. The City of Sydney is led by an independent, Clover Moore, and the Greens hold one of the ten seats. The Inner West Council is led by Labor, David Byrne, and the Greens hold one seat in each ward, for a total of 5 out of 15. It is an undisputable fact that The Greens do not hold either of the councils in the division. In the one that they hold the most power in, the Inner West Council, they are three seats short of the majority they'd need to pass or reject any motion. If they are, in fact, rejecting the development of new apartments, they'd be a voice in a chorus.

Someone is indeed bullshitting, but it isn't Ms Leong.

[Imperial isa]

So ABC edit the Bluey weight loss episode over a small number of upset people.

[Perikuresu]

WA lost a great Premier today

[Dazchan]

WA lost a great Premier today

I'm more surprised that he didn't resign earlier than anything else. The bullshit he put up with from the rest of the country when he had the nerve to look after his state's interests during COVID would be enough for most people.

[Australian rePublic]

I'm, not saying she's responsible for it, I'm saying she's bullshitting

Well, let's just look at that claim a little deeper.

Your claim:

Greens Member for Newtown, Jenny Leong, is the biggest bullshit artist in the history of ever. She's claiming that the Greens aren't contributing to the housing shortage through NIMBYism when in reality, her seat is the worst for NIMBYism thanks to Greens' councils.It's not even some far flung seat at the opposite end of the country- it's her fucking seat where the Greens' held council is preventing new appartments, then she has the gaul to claim that thr Greens aren't preventing the construction of new housing through NIMBYism.

Reality:
1. The Greens have a clearly documented opposition to overdevelopment. They don't oppose development of Newtown because it's their seat, they oppose development in Newtown because it's already overpopulated and the infrastructure in the area is struggling to keep up. The Greens want to see development of rural areas rather than cramming more people into already full cities. That isn't NIMBYism, it's common sense.
2. Neither of the two councils that operate within the State Electoral Division of Newtown can accurately be described as a "Greens" Council. The City of Sydney is led by an independent, Clover Moore, and the Greens hold one of the ten seats. The Inner West Council is led by Labor, David Byrne, and the Greens hold one seat in each ward, for a total of 5 out of 15. It is an undisputable fact that The Greens do not hold either of the councils in the division. In the one that they hold the most power in, the Inner West Council, they are three seats short of the majority they'd need to pass or reject any motion. If they are, in fact, rejecting the development of new apartments, they'd be a voice in a chorus.

Someone is indeed bullshitting, but it isn't Ms Leong.

1. Well that would make sense if they actually wanted to provide fucking water to the prople of regional NSW, rather than chuck a stink everytime someone wants to build a damn. And Newtown is not overpopulated, given its proximity to the CBD. Other parts of Sydney with less public transport recieve much, much more development. The Inner West has a relatively high population density, but don't live near the city if it bothers you that much. The same people who complain about apartments are also the same people who complain about the aircraft noise, from Sydney Airport, despite the fact that the airport has been there since the 1920s at the latest . They don't seem to have any problem with developments in Canterbury-Bankstown, and Canterbury-Bankstown has only 400 fewer people per square kilometre, and much less public transport. If that were the case, they'd be screaming up and down about the over-development of Canterbury-Bankstown, but instrad crickets chirp. And CB is earmarked for significantly more development. And even if there is Greens' opposition to development in CB, it pales in comparison to what the Inner West gets. I only used CB because of its population density, but some appies to places like Parramatta and Penrith, which get little Greens' opposition to overdevelopment


2. I don't know man, all the locals in the area seem to blame the Greens for it. If they're three seats short of a majority, it's a very loud, agonising, shrilling voice. Even if they're not the majority, at least according to the locals, they seem to get shit done. Either the Greens' NIMBYism is the problem, or a significant proportion of the people who live are wrong. Considering how much the Greens represent themselves in the anti-development

Newtown is plauged by NIMBYs who move to the suburb, knowing full werl that it's within 5 kilomrtres of the continent's largest airport, and then bitch and moan about aircraft noise trying to get the airport to reduce operations, as they were unable to foresee that moving near a fucking airport would be noisy, I also have no qualms believing that they oppose appartments. They move to near the airport and whinge about the aircraft noise. That's the kind of people we're dealing with. Moving near the airport then bitching about the noise is so popular in the Inner West that's sort-of-kind-of become a meme. Considering that these are the people who to go out of their way to move to an area near a 100+ year old airport then whine about the noise, then yea, I.gonna believe that they're gonna be NIMBYs about development. that . The Inner West used to be Greek central. The Inner West was where every Greek migrant used to live. You'd be hard pressed to find a Greek who didn't live in the Inner West
Most of my family, like many other Greeks, have since moved away has sinced moved away, but many Greeks still live there. We created our own little Greek communities. The Inner West has even established Sydney's first Greektown. Despite not having lived there for a while, I still have relatives and friends who do. You'd be very hard pressed to find a Greek Sydneysider who doesn't. I speak to our relatives and friends who still live in the Inner West. I know what I'm talking about. I've lived in Sydney my whole life, I know what I'm talking about.

Considering that many of the kind of people who vote for the Greens moved to the Inner West (many of them didn't grow up there, they moved there), knowing full well that it was close to the airport, and still choose to complain about the airport noise, then yea, I have no doubt in my mind that these are the NIMBYs in quwstion. No doubt at all. I frequently visit the Inner West because I have relatives and friends eho live there, and because my courier job takes me there. I know what I am talking about. As a Greek Sydneysider, if I were oblivious to the happenings of the Inner West, there would be something wrong. (Okay, fine, maybe there are parts of Sydney where the Greek communities are unaware of the happenings of the Inner West, I don't know. Sydney is a massive place with quite a few Greek communities). They want more people to live in rural NSW? Bullshit, they're happy for us plebs i. Western Sydney to get overdeveloped, as long as their precious seats are untouched. Their very own website opposes utban sprawl. You can't oppose urban sprawl and overdevelopment whilst simultaneously demanding population growth through migration. I mean, if the population will grow, people will need somewhere to live. That'll either come in the form of urban sprawl or high rise developments. And yet they claim to oppose high-rise developments. They're either THAT stuoid or bullshit artists. And if they are really THAT stupid, then that isn't much better, is it?

[Perikuresu]

Roger Cook, the current deputy premier of WA will be WA's new State Step-Daddy (Idk how McGowan became "State Daddy")

hopefully he'll be as good, if not a better Premier than Mark McGowan ever was.

[Imperial isa]

WA lost a great Premier today

He lost me when he went sucking up to China.

[Australian rePublic]

A social credit score is a system so evil that it can make Satan shit himself in envy. And Albo can't be praised enough for going out of his way to prevent any government institutions from ever implementing one. But what safegaurds will Albo put in place to prevent future governments from overturning the ban on such technology? Inthink a constitutional change is in order. And if that's too far, what then?

[Australian rePublic]

I've really got the shits. I've never had the shits with New South Wales as much as I do now. I copped and two demrit points for going 48 km/h (30 m/h) a 40 km/h (24 m/h) school zone, with a big a lecture about how dangerous is to go slightly over the limit and bla bla bla, meanwhile, almost daily, you'll have some fuckwit who drives over 100 km/h (62 m/h) in my neighbourhood, even in school zones, and nothing happens to them. So me, going 48 in a school zone is going to potentially kill a kid, but the fuckwit who's tiny brain is incapbale of finding a way to compensating for his tiny penis that doesn't involve driving like a maniac. That dipshit isn't going to kill an innocent kid, it's me who's going to.

At all, no matter how many times you tell the government to put more police in the area or even fucking speed humps. I don't blame the police. New South Wales police for the most part do a beyond excellent job and aren'f commended enough for the job they do, and when the police are in the area, they do a fantastic job stopping these idiots.

I blame the stupid local and state governments who can't pull their heads out of their arses and actually do something about the problem. I've never had the shits so badly in my life. And it's crap like this why I really hate the nanny state. The government's incompetence, idiocy and/or laziness leads everyone to be pubished for the actions of the perpetrator, except the perpetrator themselves. Actually, come to think of it, maybe it's a good thing. Maybe if this shit catches upto everyone, the way it's caught up to me, maybe everyone will get the shits and finally pull their head of their arse. Though, it's so far up there, it's probably stuck...

In either case, this just makes me wanna Cruisade against this crap even harder. It's actually a shame that our fantastic police have to work in such a shit system

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

It has been at least five months since my last post. yeah, really begun moving away from NS tbh-

Anyhow.

Queensland's next state election is give-or-take 12 months away, and tbh, I'm a bit concerned. If Labor could pull off a fourth term of majority government in Queensland (which I doubt they will, but it's 12 whole months away and anything can happen in that time, so what do I know :/), that'd be phenomenal.

I think Queensland Labor's best bet would be to keep Annastacia Palaszczuk in as premier, and just keep playing the centre ground - what they're doing - until election time, because otherwise they won't have a chance at holding on to North Queensland.


And given what the LNP did with just one term of being in power under Can-Do Campbell...
i'd say that if they do get in next year, there is good reason to be concerned

[Australian rePublic]

It has been at least five months since my last post. yeah, really begun moving away from NS tbh-

Anyhow.

Queensland's next state election is give-or-take 12 months away, and tbh, I'm a bit concerned. If Labor could pull off a fourth term of majority government in Queensland (which I doubt they will, but it's 12 whole months away and anything can happen in that time, so what do I know :/), that'd be phenomenal.

I think Queensland Labor's best bet would be to keep Annastacia Palaszczuk in as premier, and just keep playing the centre ground - what they're doing - until election time, because otherwise they won't have a chance at holding on to North Queensland.


And given what the LNP did with just one term of being in power under Can-Do Campbell...
i'd say that if they do get in next year, there is good reason to be concerned

Palaszczuk is a knob. Why do you want her? The ALP could do sell grom moving away from Palaszczuk