Australian Political & Infrastructure Discussion Thread

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Uyghurs thing.
The one you told me about the first time
I had verbal diarrhea on this forum

Can't blame u, denying the the Uyghur genocide/that they're concentration camps are a pretty sh*tty take

Its fine to like Friendlyjordies, nothing wrong with that,
just saying

[New Jacobland]

Hopefully Koala Killer and Bruz don't f*ck off to Hawaii, not that they can anyways

(btw what'd u think of the landslide victory for Mark Mcgowen in WA?)

I have mixed feelings. On one hand, McGowan and WA Labor have been great for WA, on the other the opposition can't do anything and Labor can do what they want.

[Perikuresu]

Hopefully Koala Killer and Bruz don't f*ck off to Hawaii, not that they can anyways

(btw what'd u think of the landslide victory for Mark Mcgowen in WA?)

I have mixed feelings. On one hand, McGowan and WA Labor have been great for WA, on the other the opposition can't do anything and Labor can do what they want.

Yeah, I've to agree (even tho I'm more biased towards Labor), guess the Liberals have to step up their game

[Arisyan]

That's a pretty weak criticism. I think what you mean is "they hate Coal" ..?

I hate coal. They hate logical phase-outs, nuclear power, guns and cars. Not to mention their gender progressive bullshit as well as completely anti-worker

im not Australian nor am I extremely tuned into Australian politics, but don't they have a so-called post-marxist as their leader? Or am I completely wrong?

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

I hate coal. They hate logical phase-outs, nuclear power, guns and cars. Not to mention their gender progressive bullshit as well as completely anti-worker

im not Australian nor am I extremely tuned into Australian politics, but don't they have a so-called post-marxist as their leader? Or am I completely wrong?

No. It's a guy who brought coal into parliament and espoused its values - on camera.
P R O P COMEDy

[Kenobot]

I hate coal. They hate logical phase-outs, nuclear power, guns and cars. Not to mention their gender progressive bullshit as well as completely anti-worker

im not Australian nor am I extremely tuned into Australian politics, but don't they have a so-called post-marxist as their leader? Or am I completely wrong?

What does that even mean? Scott Morrison is a conservative in the same ilk as the UK Conservative Party without the Climate Change action

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

*ding ding ding*

And a new bill comes in for the Internet.

Online Safety Bill: extends cyberbullying laws for young people to adults, giving the eSafety Commissioner unbridled power over what stays up and what gets taken down.

Now, yes, Class 1 and 2 content needs to go and there is certain content out there that should not be published online, but like SESTA-FOSTA and the Stop Online Piracy Act, the terms of what exactly is 'prohibited' are so vague, broad and encompassing that anything that might 'offend' anybody could slap you with a $111,000 fine. And more investigative powers, so as if the anti-encryption bill wasn't enough, so yay, victory for privacy - not.

I never knew what Aus rePublic knew when he meant we're an overregulated nanny state.
Now I know. I know, and I'm scared.

[Arisyan]

im not Australian nor am I extremely tuned into Australian politics, but don't they have a so-called post-marxist as their leader? Or am I completely wrong?

What does that even mean? Scott Morrison is a conservative in the same ilk as the UK Conservative Party without the Climate Change action

Sorry if I confused some people, I meant a post-marxist as the leader of The Greens, i.e. Adam Bandt.

[Perikuresu]

The News Media Bargaining Code is trash

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

You know what's really interesting?

How it took just $22,000,000 for the Minerals Council of Australia (MCA), representative of the interests
of some of the biggest mining giants in the world,
to dismantle Kevin Rudd's Prime Ministership for introducing the Resources Super-Profits Tax.

Julia got in and a much weaker, yet still decent, Minerals Resource Rent Tax, was introduced.
As soon as Tony got in, the Resources Minister Ian MacFarlane scrapped it. In 2016, he retired to lead the
Queensland Resources Council, the peak lobby group for mining interests in Queensland.

Malcolm Turnbull's frankly ineffective National Energy Guarantee, when even the slightest mention of it
entered Parliament, the right-wing Monash Forum and the media (especially Murdoch and SevenWest) were instrumental in kicking him out of office.

In the case of Kevin Rudd, the argument that could be used against the carbon price doesn't really work out - since
we don't see the profits - they just get shipped overseas anyway. so Twiggy and Rinehart (and spin-doctor Sophie Mirabella) can continue lounging around in the Pilbara while paying negligible tax - that goes to their businesses in the Cayman Islands.


How come Harvey Norman hasn't paid its $25m in JobKeeper yet? Again, I don't expect much from the retail giant created by a guy who said homeless people are 'just a drag on the community', but I'm kind of getting off track here.

I find it hilarious that we're forced to pay more tax than billionaires, the fact that Murdoch points to the youth and dole bludgers (not all youth are) as lazy, criminal and dangerous, while his company (not sure which one) pays no tax, all while the wealth from the resources extracted here go either offshore or into the accounts of billionaires and insanely-profitable companies who don't pay the tax they owe this country.

[Shrillland]

*ding ding ding*

And a new bill comes in for the Internet.

Online Safety Bill: extends cyberbullying laws for young people to adults, giving the eSafety Commissioner unbridled power over what stays up and what gets taken down.

Now, yes, Class 1 and 2 content needs to go and there is certain content out there that should not be published online, but like SESTA-FOSTA and the Stop Online Piracy Act, the terms of what exactly is 'prohibited' are so vague, broad and encompassing that anything that might 'offend' anybody could slap you with a $111,000 fine. And more investigative powers, so as if the anti-encryption bill wasn't enough, so yay, victory for privacy - not.

I never knew what Aus rePublic knew when he meant we're an overregulated nanny state.
Now I know. I know, and I'm scared.

How many of these bills actually pass once the outcry becomes apparent? Is it like here in the US where they quietly withdraw the bill and pretend it never existed?

[Perikuresu]

So uhhh, I heard the Berejiklian Government has lost its majority after Michael Johnsen left or something similar

[Shrillland]

So uhhh, I heard the Berejiklian Government has lost its majority after Michael Johnsen left or something similar

That it did....we may be seeing an early vote.

[Dazchan]

So uhhh, I heard the Berejiklian Government has lost its majority after Michael Johnsen left or something similar

That it did....we may be seeing an early vote.

State Governments have a fixed four year term. They can’t call an early election.

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

So uhhh, I heard the Berejiklian Government has lost its majority after Michael Johnsen left or something similar

I smell a 50-50 shot for the next election. Gladys and Jodi just have to play their cards right.
Except in the rural seats. There you can say 'we will stop the sky from falling' and you've got the vote.
(just generalising, not trying to be offensive to anyone from inland NSW)

[Kenobot]

So uhhh, I heard the Berejiklian Government has lost its majority after Michael Johnsen left or something similar

I smell a 50-50 shot for the next election. Gladys and Jodi just have to play their cards right.
Except in the rural seats. There you can say 'we will stop the sky from falling' and you've got the vote.
(just generalising, not trying to be offensive to anyone from inland NSW)

All polls I've seen suggest Labor (at a State Level in NSW) is at historically low levels of support, with Jodi McKay's personal support even lower. Gladys will likely increase her majority imo.

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

I smell a 50-50 shot for the next election. Gladys and Jodi just have to play their cards right.
Except in the rural seats. There you can say 'we will stop the sky from falling' and you've got the vote.
(just generalising, not trying to be offensive to anyone from inland NSW)

All polls I've seen suggest Labor (at a State Level in NSW) is at historically low levels of support, with Jodi McKay's personal support even lower. Gladys will likely increase her majority imo.

Unless Jodi has a really good card to play, or more Members move to or join the crossbench.

[Shrillland]

That it did....we may be seeing an early vote.

State Governments have a fixed four year term. They can’t call an early election.

They can't lose a no confidence vote, even? Or would that just mean that Labor would have to try to cobble something together?

[Kenobot]

State Governments have a fixed four year term. They can’t call an early election.

They can't lose a no confidence vote, even? Or would that just mean that Labor would have to try to cobble something together?

If an MP says that they can form government and the governor believes that they can, then they are invited to form a government. If no party can do that, the governor can call an election AFAIK.


Also 3 day lockdown Brisbane :"(

[Shrillland]

Apparently, there was a reshuffle in the last few days: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/29/world/australia/morrison-cabinet-porter-reynolds.html?smtyp=cur&smid=fb-nytimes&fbclid=IwAR2znAYrbfZZJ8Vm1jMCqv5tf3J0YQI2LLulQ8A3YT1lu3ufwtWjQ870A40

Reynolds was moved to Government Services, Porter's moved over to Science, with Michaelia Cash taking over as AG and Karen Andrews gone to Home Affairs. Dutton took over Defence.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

Can't blame u, denying the the Uyghur genocide/that they're concentration camps are a pretty sh*tty take

Its fine to like Friendlyjordies, nothing wrong with that,
just saying

I stopped watching Jordies after I realised he is a disappointment of a political commentator and his views on nuclear power are garbage. Not to mention blackmailing for 15k likes for part 3 of WH40k painting. Absolutely rubbish

[Kenobot]

Apparently, there was a reshuffle in the last few days: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/29/world/australia/morrison-cabinet-porter-reynolds.html?smtyp=cur&smid=fb-nytimes&fbclid=IwAR2znAYrbfZZJ8Vm1jMCqv5tf3J0YQI2LLulQ8A3YT1lu3ufwtWjQ870A40

Reynolds was moved to Government Services, Porter's moved over to Science, with Michaelia Cash taking over as AG and Karen Andrews gone to Home Affairs. Dutton took over Defence.

Yeah it was pretty expected for a while. More women in Cabinet, demoting the problematic ministers and promoting the performers/influential power-broker

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Its fine to like Friendlyjordies, nothing wrong with that,
just saying

I stopped watching Jordies after I realised he is a disappointment of a political commentator and his views on nuclear power are garbage. Not to mention blackmailing for 15k likes for part 3 of WH40k painting. Absolutely rubbish

Nuclear power is indeed a touchy subject.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

I stopped watching Jordies after I realised he is a disappointment of a political commentator and his views on nuclear power are garbage. Not to mention blackmailing for 15k likes for part 3 of WH40k painting. Absolutely rubbish

Nuclear power is indeed a touchy subject.

If ya have a brain and are willin to do research. It shouldn't

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

If ya have a brain and are willin to do research. It shouldn't

I'm still very much worried about the prospects of Nuclear.
Extracting uranium to power nuclear generators is a very toxic process - as seen with the mess Rio Tinto was left in over their uranium mine in the Top End - and there are certain safeguards that have to be followed. Uranium-238 has a half-lifeof 4.48 billion years and uranium-235 has a half-life of 703 million. Goodness knows what would happen if uranium or the by-products of the extraction process leached into a water table on the scale of Kakadu. I don't know much but I do know that the result would be very, very ugly.

And even in our modern day, with all the technology in the world to prevent another Chernobyl or Fukushima,
even the best plans can fail. It isn't possible to eliminate every vulnerability. Things can go wrong. Nuclear power may be cleaner than using coal or liquid-natural, shale, coal seam or tight gas, and I would actually prefer it if renewables didn't exist.

What sort of turns me off from nuclear-fired energy is the memory of what happened in Chernobyl,
and the fear of land/water contamination if the extraction process goes wrong somehow.