Australian Political & Infrastructure Discussion Thread

[Australian rePublic]

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/governments-google-facebook-law-little-more-than-a-backrub-for-news-and-nine/

I know this is a pretty divisive issue,
so I'm not going to voice my opinion on this one.

This article debates/explains the situation better than I ever could.

Considering the way Google treated me, I don't believe a word that those liers have said. The media says that this bill is about making Google pay for news content, whilst Google says that they are willing to pay for news content. I've been unable to find the legislation to read it for myself, but considering the way Google treated me, I don't belive a single word they say aboutbe willing to pay people. For too long, our country has been tredded on by big companies because of our tiny size means they don't take us seriously, and I am so glad that the government is taking a stand. Fuck you Google! I'm so glad you're being forced to pay for content! Suck shit, you thought you could cheat the Australian legal system, now the Australian legal system is working against you. Suck shit!

[Australian rePublic]

Not to sound like a greenie, but....

What's everyone's thoughts on the coal-seam-gas project in Narrabri?
Or just, idk, coal-seam gas in genral?

Should I create a discussion thread for this topic?

I believe it does merit its own thread, but as farmers vs CSG are concerned, why do CSG have to open up operations on farms? There's plenty of land to go around

[Australian rePublic]

And also,
uh, I found this on Jodi's Twitter.

You know Sydney probably better than anyone on the thread,
so what's it looking like down there in the chopper, Aus rePublic? (or any other Sydneysiders?)
(i'm only joking)
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/thousands-of-vehicles-flooding-sydney-roads-to-avoid-toll-20210127-p56x8d.html?btis

But all jokes aside,
from this,
it looks like WestConnex has fixed ONE problem - Parramatta Rd,
but created a whole lot of unrest and extra congestion in the process as many seem
to want to avoid the tollroad unless absolutely necessary.

NorthConnex too.

I'm pretty sure I've complained about this before in this thread, but toll roads in Sydney are horrific. I drive for a living, so I know all about the nightmare that is Sydney's traffic and I avoid tolls like the plague, as they're too expensive. Westconnex did not improve the situation on Parramatra Raod. If anything, Westconnex made the situation far worse, by significantly increasing the toll on the M4, the only vaible alternative to Parramatta Rd. I miss the good ol' days where I could go down the non-tolled part of the M5. Now, there are two tolls on the M5, and those who live in South-Western Sydney have to pay twice per journey meaning that if you live in Liverpool and drive to the city for work, before driving back, you pay four times. And the tolls are ridiculously expensive too! If they were reasonably priced, I'd wear the expense. I heard an interview between an ALP MP and LNP MP about toll roads in Sydney (I don't remember which ones, sorry) and the whole thing was the dick measuring contest of "The LNP's tolls are too much" vs "Well at least we're building roads, the ALP did nothing" back and forth for the entire interview. Same damned dick measuring contest. After the interview was over, people were saying "what's the point of building new roads, if no one can afford to use them?" which is bloody true! Truer words have never been spoken! I used to hate Stoney Creek Road and Forrest Rd for their traffic jams, and now I really hate them. The traffic in Sydney under normal circumstances is nearly as bad, if not worse than what Queensland considers considers a traffic jam in probably all but exceptional circumstances (I know from experiencr, I've driven in a Queensland "traffic jam"), so you QLDers won't understand how bad the traffic is until you've been here. We desperately need new roads, but the roads that LNP built are useless, because nobody can afford to use them. The worst part is that the toll roads are out west, the poorer part of town, as that's where most new roads are built. The LNP has done nothing but make Sydnsy's traffic worse by making tolls unaffordable. The ALP built no infrastructure and built no roads, and honestly which approach is worse, building no roads, or building roads so expensive that no one can use them. I honestly don't know whoch is worse!

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Aus rePublic,
off the topic of roads and onto rail,

McK&H Aust (a channel I watch made by a guy who films level crossings) made a video about the old Camellia station crossing. That was on the Carlingford line, ripped up early last year to make way for a *supposed* new light rail to Parramatta.

What's your thoughts on that?

[Australian rePublic]

Aus rePublic,
off the topic of roads and onto rail,

McK&H Aust (a channel I watch made by a guy who films level crossings) made a video about the old Camellia station crossing. That was on the Carlingford line, ripped up early last year to make way for a *supposed* new light rail to Parramatta.

What's your thoughts on that?

The light rail line is definately getting built, I've seen the construction for myself. I've seen them constrcut it (Stage 1 anyway, Stage 2 is still up in the air). With a few exceptions that I'll get to later, I am very much happy with stage 1- Parramatta to Carlingford. The old Carlingford line was the least used line on the network. You'd fail to fill a carriage on the half hourly trains which ran there.l (and that includes train fans such as myself, who ride the line just because, despite not living nor working along the line, or having no other reason to go there) By converting it to light rail, you're decreasing the cost of running trains. Also, you're running the line to Parramatta which will bring more use to the line, providing a direct link to Parra (Parra=Parramatta). Parra is Sydney's Second CBD and also a major rail interchange for trains to Western Sydney, the Blue Mountains, ragional NSW (Dubbo, Broken Hill) and and a major bus interchange, and the future Parramatta metro line, so providing a light rail link to there is , so providing a link from Parra to Carlingford is great. It'll also serve areas with rail link and the Westmead hospital precinct, which needs a rail link. Aslo, a Parramatta road rail crossing was a bad idea due to congestion, so I'm glad they got rid of it. However, there are a few problems with it
1. In order to build the LR line, the train between Clyde and Carlingford was permanently demolised, meaning that the old line between Clyde and Camilea no longer exists, which is fine, (unless you wanna go from Clyde to Carlingford, but not many people do). However, the old Rosehill station was demolised. Rosehill had very few if any passangers under normal circumstances, however, as it served the Rosehill racehorse, on race day, they filled 8 car to the brig. There was a special race day platform which could accomodate 8 carriages (the other stations were the only in Sydney which could only accommodate 4 cars), so the loss of Rosehill station is a bit upsetting, but Camellia is only like 200 metres away, so...
2. Parramatta stadium is supposed to be served by a light rail station, however, the actual light rail stop is like 500 metres away, so, not as bad as walking to the station, but still pretty bad
3. The lack of link to Epping. Epping is a major rail interchange with trains on the Northern Line, Northwest metro (with future links to Western Sydney airport and Bankstown), trains to Central Coast/Newcastle and regional trains to Brisbane. Providing a rail link from Parramatta to Epping would have been a beautiful thing, and Carlingford station is only 3 km from Epping station (and I've walked it before). This would have been a perfect oppertunity to finally extend the line to Epping, however, for some stupid reason, deapite the government acknowledging that the people want it, they refuse to extend the line to Epping. By extending it by an additional 3 km or so, they would have increased patronage (and thus profits) as well as usefullness by orders of magnitude, but for some reason they chose not to. Stage 2, from Parramatta to Olympic Park is necessary, but might not happen, which is sad, especially since people purchased property along the route in anticipation of stage 2 happening

[Australian rePublic]

A rail gauge is the gap between the rails on a train track
Australia's biggest pre-federation fuck up was each colony building different rail gauges. There's a standard line gauge linking every mainland state capital and ACT and NT's only rail lines are standard gauge, however, beyond that, each state has a different gauge, and the states which share a gauge don't neighbour eachother. Because of the break in gauge, no train can travel from Sydney to Cairns (that's the sole reason) and the only part of Victoria a train from NSW can travel to is the mainline from Wodonga to Melbourne. There are proposals to extend the Townsville to Mt. Isa line to meet up with the Adelaide to Darwin line, however, that's difficult because both lines use different gauges. The different gauges was Australia's biggest pre-federation fuck up and the fact that we haven't done anything in over 120 years really says a lot about us. Australia is the only country in the world with significant problems with different gauges. What do you guys think?

[Lillorainen]

A rail gauge is the gap between the rails on a train track
Australia's biggest pre-federation fuck up was each colony building different rail gauges. There's a standard line gauge linking every mainland state capital and ACT and NT's only rail lines are standard gauge, however, beyond that, each state has a different gauge, and the states which share a gauge don't neighbour eachother. Because of the break in gauge, no train can travel from Sydney to Cairns (that's the sole reason) and the only part of Victoria a train from NSW can travel to is the mainline from Wodonga to Melbourne. There are proposals to extend the Townsville to Mt. Isa line to meet up with the Adelaide to Darwin line, however, that's difficult because both lines use different gauges. The different gauges was Australia's biggest pre-federation fuck up and the fact that we haven't done anything in over 120 years really says a lot about us. Australia is the only country in the world with significant problems with different gauges. What do you guys think?

Really? In well over a century, no one found any merit in the idea to gradually replace old railroads by new ones with the same rail gauge in order to allow for smooth interstate travel?

As a European, I'm once more reminded of the luxury I live in. Almost all of Europe (except for Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Finland, and the ex-SU nations) uses the same gauge - there literally used to be a direct railroad connection from Paris to Istanbul for a while ...

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Cool.

Shame the G:Link Light Rail's extension to Burleigh's taking freaking forever to build.
Cross River Rail seems to be going fine though.

Finally, the GC line won't have to stop at Varsity Lakes and can just cruise on to Coolie.

Also, has anyone heard of corruption rumours surrounding the Gold Coast City Council?

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Also, has anyone heard of corruption rumours surrounding the Gold Coast City Council?

They're a huge tank of compressed liquified corruption. If corruption is swirling around them, someone probably forgot to close off the filling pipe last time the corruption tanker came ...

[Kowani]

Victorian government plan for prisoners to pick fruit shot down by farmers' criticism

[Australian rePublic]

Cool.

Shame the G:Link Light Rail's extension to Burleigh's taking freaking forever to build.
Cross River Rail seems to be going fine though.

Finally, the GC line won't have to stop at Varsity Lakes and can just cruise on to Coolie.

Also, has anyone heard of corruption rumours surrounding the Gold Coast City Council?

If I were in charge, I'd extend the Gold Coast Line into NSW. I'd extend from Varsity Lakes to Murwillumbah, then from Murwillumbah onto Casino via the former Northern Beaches Line. I'd also extend the G-Link through NSW via the Gold Coast airport. The rail line extension from Varsity to Casino would be dual-gauge

I'd also allow you to use the OPAL Card and GO Card (OPAL being NSW's equivalent of GO Card) on those two lines. That way, if you wanna catch a train from Byron Bay to Robina, you can use either an OPAL Card or a GO Card. If you wanna catch a train from Murwillumbah to Casino, you can use either a GO Card or an OPAL Card (paying NSW train fares) and if you wanna catch a train from Brisbane Airport to Varsity Lakes, you could use either an OPAL Card or a GO Card. The Gold Coast Line would be the only line QLD which allows you to use an OPAL Card, and also the only line in NSW which allows you to use a GO Card. It'd also take into account if you're elidgable for a concession discount in one state, but not the other, but I don't know how it would work at major interchanges (such as Roma St or Brisbane Central).

As for the Gold Coast Council- what happened?

[Australian rePublic]

Victorian government plan for prisoners to pick fruit shot down by farmers' criticism

Interesting. I don't know what to make of it, but interesting nonetheless

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Victorian government plan for prisoners to pick fruit shot down by farmers' criticism

There are unemployed Australians in all the cities. Just call picking "Work for the Dole" and give them the rates immigrant workers get, on top of the dole ... but no, that would be a hefty wage subsidy. It would set a bad precedent for government, and not make the farmers look good either.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Cool.

Shame the G:Link Light Rail's extension to Burleigh's taking freaking forever to build.
Cross River Rail seems to be going fine though.

Finally, the GC line won't have to stop at Varsity Lakes and can just cruise on to Coolie.

Also, has anyone heard of corruption rumours surrounding the Gold Coast City Council?

If I were in charge, I'd extend the Gold Coast Line into NSW. I'd extend from Varsity Lakes to Murwillumbah, then from Murwillumbah onto Casino via the former Northern Beaches Line. I'd also extend the G-Link through NSW via the Gold Coast airport. The rail line extension from Varsity to Casino would be dual-gauge

I'd also allow you to use the OPAL Card and GO Card (OPAL being NSW's equivalent of GO Card) on those two lines. That way, if you wanna catch a train from Byron Bay to Robina, you can use either an OPAL Card or a GO Card. If you wanna catch a train from Murwillumbah to Casino, you can use either a GO Card or an OPAL Card (paying NSW train fares) and if you wanna catch a train from Brisbane Airport to Varsity Lakes, you could use either an OPAL Card or a GO Card. The Gold Coast Line would be the only line QLD which allows you to use an OPAL Card, and also the only line in NSW which allows you to use a GO Card. It'd also take into account if you're elidgable for a concession discount in one state, but not the other, but I don't know how it would work at major interchanges (such as Roma St or Brisbane Central).

You really do love trains, don't you? No disrespect!

I think OPAL is a private company with a long contract with NSW govt. Maybe GO is too. Getting them to co-operate with each other might be quite an expensive change of contract. Or not. Sometimes contractors are happy with what they're getting and willing to cooperate.

Electronic and pre-paid billing for public transport was easy to see coming. Federal government should have done it, or leased it out, for the sake of crossing State borders if for no other reason.

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Cool.

Shame the G:Link Light Rail's extension to Burleigh's taking freaking forever to build.
Cross River Rail seems to be going fine though.

Finally, the GC line won't have to stop at Varsity Lakes and can just cruise on to Coolie.

Also, has anyone heard of corruption rumours surrounding the Gold Coast City Council?

If I were in charge, I'd extend the Gold Coast Line into NSW. I'd extend from Varsity Lakes to Murwillumbah, then from Murwillumbah onto Casino via the former Northern Beaches Line. I'd also extend the G-Link through NSW via the Gold Coast airport. The rail line extension from Varsity to Casino would be dual-gauge

I'd also allow you to use the OPAL Card and GO Card (OPAL being NSW's equivalent of GO Card) on those two lines. That way, if you wanna catch a train from Byron Bay to Robina, you can use either an OPAL Card or a GO Card. If you wanna catch a train from Murwillumbah to Casino, you can use either a GO Card or an OPAL Card (paying NSW train fares) and if you wanna catch a train from Brisbane Airport to Varsity Lakes, you could use either an OPAL Card or a GO Card. The Gold Coast Line would be the only line QLD which allows you to use an OPAL Card, and also the only line in NSW which allows you to use a GO Card. It'd also take into account if you're elidgable for a concession discount in one state, but not the other, but I don't know how it would work at major interchanges (such as Roma St or Brisbane Central).

As for the Gold Coast Council- what happened?

Ask A Series of Tubes,
but like Ipswich, despite it being full of Independents
like most councils are,
it's swimming in corruption.

Also,
you might wanna consider where it might go through
if you're talking Coolangatta to Casino.

That's a lot of farms and mountains you have to traverse.
Besides, I don't think Gladys and Annastacia are on the best of terms right now (Auspol State of Origin confirmed) for any interstate transit projects right now.

But I'm sure they can work something out.

Also, I read your rants on Google (don't think I've seen you angrier) and the tolls. According to some graph I saw somewhere Sydney's got some of the worst traffic congestion in the world.

If WestConnex is bad, what are the outer suburbs (y'know, Bondi, Alexandria, Maroubra, Hornsby, NthConnex, the Pacific Hwy to Wollongong, Hume Hwy, other stuff) like?

And if the roads are bad, how bad is public transport? (e.g. Buses, trains, metro trains, light rail and ferries)

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

And if the roads are bad, how bad is public transport? (e.g. Buses, trains, metro trains, light rail and ferries)

Don't you worry about ferries. As long as nobody drowns, the passengers won't complain.

The Rodney

It's a tragedy sure, but maybe some of the "well-wishers" hooked up with the former girlfriends of US sailors. And in any case, Sydney was rid of those US sailors ... for a year or so at least.

[Imperial isa]

And if the roads are bad, how bad is public transport? (e.g. Buses, trains, metro trains, light rail and ferries)

Don't you worry about ferries. As long as nobody drowns, the passengers won't complain.

The Rodney

It's a tragedy sure, but maybe some of the "well-wishers" hooked up with the former girlfriends of US sailors. And in any case, Sydney was rid of those US sailors ... for a year or so at least.

What about those new ones you got to worry about going under bridges with?

[Australian rePublic]

If I were in charge, I'd extend the Gold Coast Line into NSW. I'd extend from Varsity Lakes to Murwillumbah, then from Murwillumbah onto Casino via the former Northern Beaches Line. I'd also extend the G-Link through NSW via the Gold Coast airport. The rail line extension from Varsity to Casino would be dual-gauge

I'd also allow you to use the OPAL Card and GO Card (OPAL being NSW's equivalent of GO Card) on those two lines. That way, if you wanna catch a train from Byron Bay to Robina, you can use either an OPAL Card or a GO Card. If you wanna catch a train from Murwillumbah to Casino, you can use either a GO Card or an OPAL Card (paying NSW train fares) and if you wanna catch a train from Brisbane Airport to Varsity Lakes, you could use either an OPAL Card or a GO Card. The Gold Coast Line would be the only line QLD which allows you to use an OPAL Card, and also the only line in NSW which allows you to use a GO Card. It'd also take into account if you're elidgable for a concession discount in one state, but not the other, but I don't know how it would work at major interchanges (such as Roma St or Brisbane Central).

As for the Gold Coast Council- what happened?

Ask A Series of Tubes,
but like Ipswich, despite it being full of Independents
like most councils are,
it's swimming in corruption.

Also,
you might wanna consider where it might go through
if you're talking Coolangatta to Casino.

That's a lot of farms and mountains you have to traverse.
Besides, I don't think Gladys and Annastacia are on the best of terms right now (Auspol State of Origin confirmed) for any interstate transit projects right now.

But I'm sure they can work something out.

Also, I read your rants on Google (don't think I've seen you angrier) and the tolls. According to some graph I saw somewhere Sydney's got some of the worst traffic congestion in the world.

If WestConnex is bad, what are the outer suburbs (y'know, Bondi, Alexandria, Maroubra, Hornsby, NthConnex, the Pacific Hwy to Wollongong, Hume Hwy, other stuff) like?

And if the roads are bad, how bad is public transport? (e.g. Buses, trains, metro trains, light rail and ferries)

Let's ignore trams for a moment and focus only on trains for a moment. Since the 1930's, Sydney's population has quintupled, and yet, Sydney had torn up about half as many rail lines as we had built. The worst offender by far was the ALP who ruled from 1995-2011. In over 15 years, they only built 3 rail lines:
-The Airport Line
-The Olympic Park Line
-The Epping to Chatswood Rail Link

If it wasn't for the Olympics, they never would have built the Airport Line nor the Olympic Park line, so let's discuss both of them individually
-The Airport Line is great, however, they should have included a in a stop at Redfern, but nonetheless, the line is great. It's expensive though, (more expensive than other trains) and the LNP brought the price of Green Square and Mascot station in line with the rest of the rail network (Labor, who introduced the Airport access fees in the first place) is now spewing at Liberal for refusing to remove the Airport access fee for people work at the airport (though, it has been significantly reduced for airport workers)
-The Olympic Park line- The Olympic Park line was so badly designed that it only serves any real purpose during special events (though this is changing thanks to big developments in the area). They could have designed this much better, but didn't. The line is great if you wanna travel from Lidcombe to Olympic Park (and a lot of people do) but pretty much useless if you wanna go from anywhere else. There are also trains from Central to Olympic Park stopping at Redfern and Strathfield, so that's good, and during special events, trains from all over Sydney can use the Olympic Park line, which is good, but pretty much useless outside of special events.
-The Epping to Chatswood. This line was supposed to originally run from Chatswood to Parramatta, but it only ran half the distance, and cost twice as much as it should have to build. Despite this, when it first opened, commuters were complaining about noise, drivers were complaining about the lights blinding them and certain trains couldn't run along the route, making the whole line a shambles
Also, under the ALP, trains were so constantly delayed and/or cancelled, making CityRail (now Sydney Trains) was the butt end of all Sydneysiders jokes. The LNP fixed the rail network to the point where delays and cancellations are unheard of (unless something goes wrong, such as a person being hit by a train, a fire or a flood). To their credit, the LNP is building a lot of infrastructure, but given the lack of infrastructure contributed by the ALP, they're playing a very difficult game of catch-up. I think that converting the Bankstown line to metro is a bit redundant, however, and the money that is spent on that could be spent on building a brand new line

As for buses, buses vary depending on where you live. Some places are under-serviced by buses, whilst in other places, the buses are excellent, but are too crowded as these routes need higher capacity transport. Where I live, there are only two bus services, and one of them only operates half hourly.

Ferries are pretty good, not much I can say about ferries, they're pretty good.

That brings us to trams/light rail. There are three operational light rail lines in NSW, with a forth under contruction. The Dulwhich Hill line is excellent in every regard, the CBD/South East Lines were dealyed significantly, cost billions to build and when they finally opened, they were the slowest tram lines in the world. The Newcastle Line did nothing but replace the rail line which ran across that corridor. It would have been a good to make it go somewhere the train already didn't go. I would suggest an extension to McDonall Jones Stadium. The last stop along the line, however, is called "Newcastle Beach" and is 400 metres from the beach. They should have called that stop "Pacific Park" and actually extended the line as far as the beach

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Which is worse,

A Current Affair
OR
The Project?

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Also, I've heard of rumours surrounding the NSW bushfire recovery grants.

Apparently non-Coalition seats only saw $2.5 million out of $170 million or so in recovery grants -
one of those being the Blue Mountains, one of the hardest-hit areas, being a Labor seat.

Not sure why that's going on.

John Barilaro's sort of saying, 'oh, Pork barrelling's what you do in an election', so I'm a little suspicious
of why all but 2 and a half million went to non-LNP seats in New South Wales.

Any Welshmen know anything?

Oh, and also....
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=498346

[Dazchan]

Also, I've heard of rumours surrounding the NSW bushfire recovery grants.

Apparently non-Coalition seats only saw $2.5 million out of $170 million or so in recovery grants -
one of those being the Blue Mountains, one of the hardest-hit areas, being a Labor seat.

Not sure why that's going on.

John Barilaro's sort of saying, 'oh, Pork barrelling's what you do in an election', so I'm a little suspicious
of why all but 2 and a half million went to non-LNP seats in New South Wales.

Any Welshmen know anything?

Oh, and also....
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=498346

We’re talking about a government who gave a regional sports grant to a swimming pool in North Sydney. They have a long history of splashing money only in their own electorates, rather than where it’s needed,

[Australian rePublic]

Sorry guys that I haven't contributed much a
Lately, as I've been extremely busy, so I'll leave you with this. Pete Evans is running for parliament

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-sho ... 146094.amp

[Albrenia]

Sorry guys that I haven't contributed much a
Lately, as I've been extremely busy, so I'll leave you with this. Pete Evans is running for parliament

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-sho ... 146094.amp

May he meet the same fate as Palmer and the others who tried to be 'Australian Trump'. His anti-vaxxer views, particularly now, will likely be the political death of him.

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Sorry guys that I haven't contributed much a
Lately, as I've been extremely busy, so I'll leave you with this. Pete Evans is running for parliament

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-sho ... 146094.amp

Boo

put Manu on instead.

[Lura]

A rail gauge is the gap between the rails on a train track
Australia's biggest pre-federation fuck up was each colony building different rail gauges. There's a standard line gauge linking every mainland state capital and ACT and NT's only rail lines are standard gauge, however, beyond that, each state has a different gauge, and the states which share a gauge don't neighbour eachother. Because of the break in gauge, no train can travel from Sydney to Cairns (that's the sole reason) and the only part of Victoria a train from NSW can travel to is the mainline from Wodonga to Melbourne. There are proposals to extend the Townsville to Mt. Isa line to meet up with the Adelaide to Darwin line, however, that's difficult because both lines use different gauges. The different gauges was Australia's biggest pre-federation fuck up and the fact that we haven't done anything in over 120 years really says a lot about us. Australia is the only country in the world with significant problems with different gauges. What do you guys think?

I know this was posted ages ago, but I'm only checking the thread again now, so...

Australia is one of the only countries I can imagine where having differing rail gauges is for the most part a non-issue. The only place where it would even be worth bothering to standardise it is the eastern states. I'm not familiar with the rail gauges in use, but I think I can say with confidence that very few trains would actually cross state borders because they aren't practical to get anywhere fast in Australia. They pretty much only service movement of resources. The only passenger train line that crosses state borders that I could picture getting any use whatsoever would be a hypothetical Melbourne to Brisbane via Sydney train line, and even then, if it wasn't a bullet-train-type rail line it would be of limited practicality simply due to the vast distance it would cross. Adelaide is too far from Melbourne and the demand would be too low for conformity between SA and the hypothetical Qld-NSW-Vic standard. And if Adelaide is too far away to bother, then Perth and WA need no further mention.

I'm certainly no expert on trains; in fact I've almost never used them because the only rail line in South Australia I would ever need is the Adelaide Metro, and I only started to use the train regularly just before COVID, so that stopped being necessary real fast.