Australian Political & Infrastructure Discussion Thread

[Australian rePublic]

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I still don't like Scomo.

I just think some of his mates, like Peter Dutton, are worse. And Trump. And Indonesia, who's pillaging West Papua to make way for LG's petrochemical plant.

I know i'm going to get flak for my opinion,
but oh well....

to be fair, the Nationals can be worse.

honestly, I'm not sure what policies the Greens have other than 'save the trees' and that's it. Even if it wasn't like that,
I don't fully trust them. I'm all for saving the environment and stopping climate change, but still.

What has the LNP gotta do with West Paupa?

[Agarntrop]

Isnt Scomo as bent as a spoon? Like didnt he sell off oil contracts to his best mates and get donations from the fossil fuel industry?

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I still don't like Scomo.

I just think some of his mates, like Peter Dutton, are worse. And Trump. And Indonesia, who's pillaging West Papua to make way for LG's petrochemical plant.

I know i'm going to get flak for my opinion,
but oh well....

to be fair, the Nationals can be worse.

honestly, I'm not sure what policies the Greens have other than 'save the trees' and that's it. Even if it wasn't like that,
I don't fully trust them. I'm all for saving the environment and stopping climate change, but still.

What has the LNP gotta do with West Paupa?

Some kind of uprising is brewing in West Papua (which is controlled by Indonesia). If Australia's government doesn't have anything to say about that, it would be disturbing.

[Australian rePublic]

What has the LNP gotta do with West Paupa?

Some kind of uprising is brewing in West Papua (which is controlled by Indonesia). If Australia's government doesn't have anything to say about that, it would be disturbing.

Australia can say whatever she wants about it. What do you want Australia to actually do about it

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Some kind of uprising is brewing in West Papua (which is controlled by Indonesia). If Australia's government doesn't have anything to say about that, it would be disturbing.

Australia can say whatever she wants about it. What do you want Australia to actually do about it

Just saying something would be a start.

[Australian rePublic]

Australia can say whatever she wants about it. What do you want Australia to actually do about it

Just saying something would be a start.

True. But at the same time, you don't wanna piss off the Indonesians, they can cut off our shipping/trading routes. Why do you think we give them so much aid? Kindness of our hearts?

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Just saying something would be a start.

True. But at the same time, you don't wanna piss off the Indonesians, they can cut off our shipping/trading routes. Why do you think we give them so much aid? Kindness of our hearts?

I'm confused. Australia tells China things they don't want to hear, despite them being a major trading partner, also greater military power. But when it comes to Indonesia, Australia pays them off with aid and won't utter a squeak, because they're close by?

It's about refugees isn't it.

[Dazchan]

Just saying something would be a start.

True. But at the same time, you don't wanna piss off the Indonesians, they can cut off our shipping/trading routes. Why do you think we give them so much aid? Kindness of our hearts?

Because we’ve totally never stood up to Indonesia before...

Of course, Morrison is nowhere even remotely close to being in the same league as Howard.

[Kenobot]

True. But at the same time, you don't wanna piss off the Indonesians, they can cut off our shipping/trading routes. Why do you think we give them so much aid? Kindness of our hearts?

I'm confused. Australia tells China things they don't want to hear, despite them being a major trading partner, also greater military power. But when it comes to Indonesia, Australia pays them off with aid and won't utter a squeak, because they're close by?

It's about refugees isn't it.

Indonesia is a strategic partner of Australia. After our involvement in East Timor, telling them to get out of West Papua too would be ill-advised. We should support peaceful negotiation, but we can't be the ones to lead the charge if we don't want to alienate our neighbour.
We're in the opening stages of a new Cold War between China and the Western Powers; we call out China's systematic human rights abuses primarily because it helps frame China as comparable to Mao's period China, Stalin era Soviet Union and even to Nazi Germany. It's not a stretch of the imagination to make any of these comparisons either. China is not democratic, not a liberal society, not a free market economy by any stretch nor a social market comparable to that of Germany or France. It's not a power that, particularly under Xi Jinping's rule, we want influencing global politics. We keep making the case that we don't have to choose between the US and China and to an extent now that's true because China chose for us; and they chose....poorly.

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

What has the LNP gotta do with West Paupa?

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I don't know.
I know it's an international issue, but I'd think somebody'd say "hey, that's not OK" within the Govt,
or go to a summit (i know it's not the biggest, most high priority thing, but still) with Indonesia
over what the Indonesian government's doing.

Anyhoo,
Merry Christmas, my fellow NationStaters.

[The Three Palins]

Merry Christmas, my fellow NationStaters.

I have a present for you!

It's a new bum!
If it doesn't fit, you can take it back to Fundamentals where they will fit a new one for you. They're very discrete, they have changing rooms and won't ask for credit card.

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

I have a present for you!

It's a new bum!
If it doesn't fit, you can take it back to Fundamentals where they will fit a new one for you. They're very discrete, they have changing rooms and won't ask for credit card.

uh, no.

[The Three Palins]

I have a present for you!

It's a new bum!
If it doesn't fit, you can take it back to Fundamentals where they will fit a new one for you. They're very discrete, they have changing rooms and won't ask for credit card.

uh, no.

Well Fundamentals also do breast implants, nose jobs or Vulcan ears? I'm sure they could fix you up!

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Well Fundamentals also do breast implants, nose jobs or Vulcan ears? I'm sure they could fix you up!

NO, I'm fine.
Fundamental's isnt my cup of tea, The Three Palins

[The Three Palins]

Well Fundamentals also do breast implants, nose jobs or Vulcan ears? I'm sure they could fix you up!

NO, I'm fine.
Fundamental's isnt my cup of tea, The Three Palins

Oh, sorry. What did you get for me then?

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

NO, I'm fine.
Fundamental's isnt my cup of tea, The Three Palins

Oh, sorry. What did you get for me then?

I...don't know.
I don't give gifts.

It was a simple 'merry christmas' message to everyone. Nothing more, nothing less.
Sorry if you're disappointed.

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Who's the worst politician in Australia?

For me, it's a tie between Joh-Bjelke Petersen, Fraser Anning, Pauline and *no surprises* Clive.

Oh, and might as well add Dutton in too, 'cos why not.

[Dazchan]

Who's the worst politician in Australia?

For me, it's a tie between Joh-Bjelke Petersen, Fraser Anning, Pauline and *no surprises* Clive.

Everyone you listed is bad, but Fraser Anning was in a class of his own. That he was ejected from KAP for being too extreme says it all.

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Queensland_state_election

How did Bligh lose this badly??!!

[Anatoliyanskiy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Queensland_state_election

How did Bligh lose this badly??!!

To be fair I keep wondering how the Labor Party keeps winning in Queensland. Like its a super conservative state from what I can tell and almost all of its seats in the HoR went to the LNP last election. So that was probably an expected outcome. And then one wonders too "how did Campbell Newman lose the second time around?"

[Australian rePublic]

Gladys Berejiklian is, in my opinion, extremely incompitant, but I have to give it to her, she's hard working and compassionate. I like her as a person

[Australian rePublic]

Now that China has stopped buying our food and coal, there are huge food shortages and huge power outages, and people aren't allowed to turn their power on, unless the temperature falls below a certain level. China is now begging Australia to mend their relationships with us so we can get back to trading together. I would have the shits with Scomo if he were to give into them. Let them come crawling back to us. They need us more than we need them. Thank God the LNP's in charge federally, I could see the ALP bending over backwards for them. Many people told Jodi McKay when she posted on Facebook about how racist it was to criticide the CCP, and I completely embarrassed her in that post. She memory-holed that post within a couple of hours

[State of Trinity]

Greetings.

I'm an Inner City, Sydney Lad.

Happy to meet you All.

[Australian rePublic]

Greetings.

I'm an Inner City, Sydney Lad.

Happy to meet you All.

Hello fellow Sydneysider

[Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts]

Greetings.

I'm an Inner City, Sydney Lad.

Happy to meet you All.

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