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Postby Dazchan » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:41 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:P.S. why is there only...1 seat for the whole Northern Territory?


Because electoral boundaries are based on population size, with each electorate having as close to the same number of people living it in as possible.

NT has a very small population, thus the entire territory fits in a single electorate.
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:34 pm

Dazchan wrote:
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:P.S. why is there only...1 seat for the whole Northern Territory?


Because electoral boundaries are based on population size, with each electorate having as close to the same number of people living it in as possible.

NT has a very small population, thus the entire territory fits in a single electorate.


Fair enough.
Probably the same in the Pilbara and outback South Australia.
SO sparsely populated you only need one or a few electorates.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:57 pm

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:Why should a giant Dan Murphy's be built not far from Aboriginal communities in the Territory
already struggling with healthcare and record child suicide rates?

Aren't our First Nations people already suffering enough due to the introduction of the Indue card
that's locking CeNTrelink recipients out of much of their savings?

God, first nations people have it tough right now. The people who occupied our
nation for 40,000 years before Arthur Phillip even planted the flag deserve a hell of a lot better
than they're being treated.

P.S. why is there only...1 seat for the whole Northern Territory?

So, what would you do. Also, electorates are determined by population numbers
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Postby Anatoliyanskiy » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:02 pm

Dazchan wrote:
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:P.S. why is there only...1 seat for the whole Northern Territory?


Because electoral boundaries are based on population size, with each electorate having as close to the same number of people living it in as possible.

NT has a very small population, thus the entire territory fits in a single electorate.


Guys, it has 2 seats. How does anyone not know that it has 2 seats? Lingara and Darwin.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:56 pm

:lol:
Anatoliyanskiy wrote:
Dazchan wrote:
Because electoral boundaries are based on population size, with each electorate having as close to the same number of people living it in as possible.

NT has a very small population, thus the entire territory fits in a single electorate.


Guys, it has 2 seats. How does anyone not know that it has 2 seats? Lingara and Darwin.

Ah, okay then. That's fair
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:49 pm

So what would you do?


Well, even if it did cost some local jobs,
I'd disallow it being built because these hard done by and dry Aboriginal communities
don't need alcohol on their list of problems.

The problem with the 'it'll boost the local economy' argument in this case is that, yes, it will provide jobs,
but again, the NT is very sparsely populated with the majority of settlements being hours away from each other.

And even when Darwin's economy is brought up, yes, it'll still create jobs, but
Darwin's still the smallest capital city in terms of population compared to its eastern and southern neighbours.

I just think the CA Party needs to consider the community's opinion on this
and ensure that all Territorians - regardless of race - are looked out for when it comes to alcohol.

While the Woolworths Group's intent might not be to hold beer on a stick to get everyone in Darwin drunk,
it's still a bad move when it's within walking distance of three dry Aboriginal settlements that don't drink. It's just a case of wanting to make profit. As always.
In this case, profiting off the further degradation of Aboriginal wellbeing and our already-disreputable drinking culture.
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Postby The Three Palins » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:58 pm

Australian rePublic wrote::lol:
Anatoliyanskiy wrote:
Guys, it has 2 seats. How does anyone not know that it has 2 seats? Lingara and Darwin.

Ah, okay then. That's fair


It's Lingiari and Solomon actually. As of 2000. Before that it was just one division.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:36 pm

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
So what would you do?


Well, even if it did cost some local jobs,
I'd disallow it being built because these hard done by and dry Aboriginal communities
don't need alcohol on their list of problems.

The problem with the 'it'll boost the local economy' argument in this case is that, yes, it will provide jobs,
but again, the NT is very sparsely populated with the majority of settlements being hours away from each other.

And even when Darwin's economy is brought up, yes, it'll still create jobs, but
Darwin's still the smallest capital city in terms of population compared to its eastern and southern neighbours.

I just think the CA Party needs to consider the community's opinion on this
and ensure that all Territorians - regardless of race - are looked out for when it comes to alcohol.

While the Woolworths Group's intent might not be to hold beer on a stick to get everyone in Darwin drunk,
it's still a bad move when it's within walking distance of three dry Aboriginal settlements that don't drink. It's just a case of wanting to make profit. As always.
In this case, profiting off the further degradation of Aboriginal wellbeing and our already-disreputable drinking culture.

If those communities don't drink, why would they go to a Bottle-o? Also, yea, of coarse Woolies are concerned about profits. They're a company. Profit maximisation is a company's primary goal
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:42 am

Australian rePublic wrote:If those communities don't drink, why would they go to a Bottle-o? Also, yea, of coarse Woolies are concerned about profits. They're a company. Profit maximisation is a company's primary goal


Bottle-O's exist in Darwin, no doubt.

I'm just saying they shouldn't be approving crap that profits off the derailing of Aboriginal welfare. As if the Cashless Welfare Card wasn't bad enough, the NT's First Nations and welfarers aren't well treated.

Anyway, did anyone hear about Greg Hunt wasted mony on a beach
nourishment project
in his own electorate?

Bet he'll join the list of safe seats up with Willoughby and Monaro.

i bet when Barilaro loses his seat, he'll call the people of Queanbeyan 'disgusting humans'
for voting him out.

But that'll be a long way off unless he resigns.

And gladys (an even bigger implausibility because she's as popular in Willoughby as Anna and Deb are in Inala and Nanango) would probably say 3 weeks after.

Leigh Sales: "Gladys, do you have anything to say about being voted out of your seat in the state election?"
Gladys: "I didn't know that."
Leigh Sales: "Are you sure, Gladys? I mean, you clearly-"
Gladys: "N-no, Leigh, I don't need to know about that bit. Now, I'm very
stressed right now, Does this ABC studio have a cafeteria?"
Leigh Sales: "Mmm....no."
Gladys: "Then I'll just go down the road."
Leigh Sales: "OK."
*15 minutes later*

Gladys has not returned to the studio
to continue the interview.

*The next morning, Gladys is on the phone*
Gladys: "No-no, Kochy, I want the least amount of questions in this interview, I'm very tired.
You want to ask questions?
Ask Constipation."

Andrew: "I didn't sine up for this, I thought this job
was loitering behind the Bermagui public toilets and selling auto-repair shops to Supercheap.
Gladys, do I have to?"

Gladys: "I'm not in the mood for quezzies, And."
Andrew: "Fine."
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:51 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:If those communities don't drink, why would they go to a Bottle-o? Also, yea, of coarse Woolies are concerned about profits. They're a company. Profit maximisation is a company's primary goal


Bottle-O's exist in Darwin, no doubt.

I'm just saying they shouldn't be approving crap that profits off the derailing of Aboriginal welfare. As if the Cashless Welfare Card wasn't bad enough, the NT's First Nations and welfarers aren't well treated.


Then complain to the council.
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:10 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Then complain to the council.


How?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:12 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Then complain to the council.


How?

Find out what the council is called and google how to contact them
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:17 am

ok thanks for the tip
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:23 am

I wanna write an email to give Scomo suggestions about how to improve our country's manufacturing industry, beyond asking people nicely to buy Australian made products. Any ideas?
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Postby The Three Palins » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:35 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I wanna write an email to give Scomo suggestions about how to improve our country's manufacturing industry, beyond asking people nicely to buy Australian made products. Any ideas?


Australia invented a lot of things, percapita. Is there anything in labelling products the way Apple does "Designed in Australia, Made in China" ..?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:45 am

The Three Palins wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I wanna write an email to give Scomo suggestions about how to improve our country's manufacturing industry, beyond asking people nicely to buy Australian made products. Any ideas?


Australia invented a lot of things, percapita. Is there anything in labelling products the way Apple does "Designed in Australia, Made in China" ..?

Oh yes
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:58 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I wanna write an email to give Scomo suggestions about how to improve our country's manufacturing industry, beyond asking people nicely to buy Australian made products. Any ideas?


Inject money into the industry of Scomo bobbleheads. You could win an election judging by how popular they are! :lol:

*only kidding lol*

Anyway, I'd say inject some money back into rail things (e.g. Sydneys subpar trams and Nwcastle's light rail to nowhere, which were made overseas)
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:02 am

Judging the way some Liberals (and Nationls, and others)
have handled this year's pandemic and stuff,

a labor government (or more Federal MPs for Labor) would be nice.
If they werent so committed to quietly buttoning up over the course of the year
out of fear of being attacked.
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Postby Anatoliyanskiy » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:46 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:Judging the way some Liberals (and Nationls, and others)
have handled this year's pandemic and stuff,

a labor government (or more Federal MPs for Labor) would be nice.
If they werent so committed to quietly buttoning up over the course of the year
out of fear of being attacked.


To be fair a lot pandemic elections either give the governing party a massive majority or a massive majority for the opposition, and given the way he's handled it he'd get the former if there was an election today. But there isn't and im still holding out hope for a labor-green government thats been 10 years in the making. But maybe im being too hopeful.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:09 pm

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:Judging the way some Liberals (and Nationls, and others)
have handled this year's pandemic and stuff,

a labor government (or more Federal MPs for Labor) would be nice.
If they werent so committed to quietly buttoning up over the course of the year
out of fear of being attacked.

Scomo has handled this excellently. It's the states that fucked up
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:15 pm

I'm sick to death of how much of an over-regulated nanny state Australia is
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:06 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:Judging the way some Liberals (and Nationls, and others)
have handled this year's pandemic and stuff,

a labor government (or more Federal MPs for Labor) would be nice.
If they werent so committed to quietly buttoning up over the course of the year
out of fear of being attacked.

Scomo has handled this excellently. It's the states that fucked up



I didn't say anything about scomo.
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Postby The Three Palins » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:39 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:I'm sick to death of how much of an over-regulated nanny state Australia is


I won't hear a word against nanny regulation. It's a skilled profession, not something for random teenagers.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:48 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Scomo has handled this excellently. It's the states that fucked up



I didn't say anything about scomo.

Scomo and the government he leads

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Australian rePublic wrote:I'm sick to death of how much of an over-regulated nanny state Australia is


I won't hear a word against nanny regulation. It's a skilled profession, not something for random teenagers.

:rofl: :lol2: :rofl:


Nanny state has nothing to do with the profession of nannies. In fact, my sister works in the child care industry and is also a teacher. It's an understaffed and underappreciated industry in Australia. A nanny state is when the government makes the fefault assumption that everyone in a country is an idiot and makes laws based on that assumption
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....

Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:17 am

....

I still don't like Scomo.

I just think some of his mates, like Peter Dutton, are worse. And Trump. And Indonesia, who's pillaging West Papua to make way for LG's petrochemical plant.

I know i'm going to get flak for my opinion,
but oh well....

to be fair, the Nationals can be worse.

honestly, I'm not sure what policies the Greens have other than 'save the trees' and that's it. Even if it wasn't like that,
I don't fully trust them. I'm all for saving the environment and stopping climate change, but still.
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