[UPDATE] Charlie Hebdo targeted AGAIN

[Aureumterra]

Awfully long post with no sources at all

Meanwhile, take a look at Wikipedia (and this Wikipedia page has all of its main sources cited)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_ ... an_slavery


How about here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_ ... lave_trade


Please stop with the historical revisionism, it is well documented that Europeans bought slaves from African rulers, and while some were quite literally "Taken and chained," the majority were captured prisoners of war who were then sold to Europeans by African rulers. Your post mentions no evidence, sources, or citations for your revisionist claims

“Ah yes, let’s ask the White dude if he thinks most slaves were stolen by white people or black people”. It would make more sense to ask the slaves, as, like I said, those who were African captured who captured AFrIcAns were generally never of the same ethnic group. Even sources claiming most slaves were bought rather stolen admit this. I’m not revising history. What IS revising history is that fact that these sources often come from the descendants of those who did the stealing. For the last time I AM NOT SAYING NO SLAVES WERE BOUGHT. What I AM saying is that that wasn’t the majority of slaves, and Africans who sold Africans were nearly never the same people groups. I am Hausa. I am just as likely to have relatives who were stolen as I am to have ones that sold people. But I ask you, look at the Africans who were capturing people. You will likely notice something... something around their necks: chains. These Africans who captured people were often already slaves, or would end up as slaves. And when Kong’s ad chiefs got wind of what was really going on in the Americas, they usually demanded the Europeans stop trying their, which would generally result in the capturing of essentially everyone in the village including the chief, followed by the collection guns to be sold by Europeans to another unsuspecting African chief.

Here’s one source to read for now. More coming along soon:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost ... 637798/amp

I read the article, it points out that the slave trade began with raids, but nowhere does it support your own claims that most slaves weren’t sold by Africans… so I once again ask for a source

[Insaanistan]

First of all, Allah is Arabic for God, so take out the percentage of people in that who are Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, “Educated” Hindus, Sikhs etc.

2. Last I checked, making fun of other religion’s figures isn’t a religious principle.

It’s a freedom principle, nobody is saying it’s a religious one.

You’re biased and need to grow a thicker skin.

Call me biased if you want, but you realize a) I’m angry about it, but recognize I can’t do anything, and b) I’m not aaying we should kill them.

Also, again, why is it always Muslims and minorities are supposed to toughen up, but when white rightists are reminded of anything bad a white person did, they get to whine, deny it, and kill over it? Not all of them, of course, but too many.

[Thermodolia]

It’s a freedom principle, nobody is saying it’s a religious one.

You’re biased and need to grow a thicker skin.

Call me biased if you want, but you realize a) I’m angry about it, but recognize I can’t do anything, and b) I’m not aaying we should kill them.

Also, again, why is it always Muslims and minorities are supposed to toughen up, but when white rightists are reminded of anything bad a white person did, they get to whine, deny it, and kill over it? Not all of them, of course, but too many.

Your whataboutism is noted and discarded

[Ors Might]

It’s a freedom principle, nobody is saying it’s a religious one.

You’re biased and need to grow a thicker skin.

Call me biased if you want, but you realize a) I’m angry about it, but recognize I can’t do anything, and b) I’m not aaying we should kill them.

Also, again, why is it always Muslims and minorities are supposed to toughen up, but when white rightists are reminded of anything bad a white person did, they get to whine, deny it, and kill over it? Not all of them, of course, but too many.

Weirdly enough, when the Christian messiah gets mocked, we don’t really have mass protests in the streets and Christians bombing cartoonists. Seems like, for all of Christianity’s faults, they have toughened up a bit in this regard.

[Insaanistan]

“Ah yes, let’s ask the White dude if he thinks most slaves were stolen by white people or black people”. It would make more sense to ask the slaves, as, like I said, those who were African captured who captured AFrIcAns were generally never of the same ethnic group. Even sources claiming most slaves were bought rather stolen admit this. I’m not revising history. What IS revising history is that fact that these sources often come from the descendants of those who did the stealing. For the last time I AM NOT SAYING NO SLAVES WERE BOUGHT. What I AM saying is that that wasn’t the majority of slaves, and Africans who sold Africans were nearly never the same people groups. I am Hausa. I am just as likely to have relatives who were stolen as I am to have ones that sold people. But I ask you, look at the Africans who were capturing people. You will likely notice something... something around their necks: chains. These Africans who captured people were often already slaves, or would end up as slaves. And when Kong’s ad chiefs got wind of what was really going on in the Americas, they usually demanded the Europeans stop trying their, which would generally result in the capturing of essentially everyone in the village including the chief, followed by the collection guns to be sold by Europeans to another unsuspecting African chief.

Here’s one source to read for now. More coming along soon:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost ... 637798/amp

I read the article, it points out that the slave trade began with raids, but nowhere does it support your own claims that most slaves weren’t sold by Africans… so I once again ask for a source

Here is one.
https://www.whitneyplantation.org/the-a ... ave-trade/

[Insaanistan]

Call me biased if you want, but you realize a) I’m angry about it, but recognize I can’t do anything, and b) I’m not aaying we should kill them.

Also, again, why is it always Muslims and minorities are supposed to toughen up, but when white rightists are reminded of anything bad a white person did, they get to whine, deny it, and kill over it? Not all of them, of course, but too many.

Weirdly enough, when the Christian messiah gets mocked, we don’t really have mass protests in the streets and Christians bombing cartoonists. Seems like, for all of Christianity’s faults, they have toughened up a bit in this regard.

Not caring doesn’t make you tougher. And bombers don’t represent Muslims. I certainly don’t want to kill anyone. I have Christians in my family who would beat the crap of of the comic illustrator for making fun of Jesus (pbuh), both Scots and Africans.

[Ors Might]

Weirdly enough, when the Christian messiah gets mocked, we don’t really have mass protests in the streets and Christians bombing cartoonists. Seems like, for all of Christianity’s faults, they have toughened up a bit in this regard.

Not caring doesn’t make you tougher. And bombers don’t represent Muslims. I certainly don’t want to kill anyone. I have Christians in my family who would beat the crap of of the comic illustrator for making fun of Jesus (pbuh), both Scots and Africans.

Bombers certainly don’t represent Muslims, but the protesters throwing a hissy fit over some insignificant French rag being rude towards their prophet represent at least a bit of Islam. I don’t really see how it matters if you know a few Christians that would be violent assholes over someone mocking J.C, that doesn’t invalidate the fact that the majority of Christians don’t get all uppity when cartoonists mock their religion.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Weirdly enough, when the Christian messiah gets mocked, we don’t really have mass protests in the streets and Christians bombing cartoonists. Seems like, for all of Christianity’s faults, they have toughened up a bit in this regard.

Not caring doesn’t make you tougher. And bombers don’t represent Muslims. I certainly don’t want to kill anyone. I have Christians in my family who would beat the crap of of the comic illustrator for making fun of Jesus (pbuh), both Scots and Africans.

Sounds like a family problem rather than a society problem.

[Asle Leopolka]

It’s a freedom principle, nobody is saying it’s a religious one.

You’re biased and need to grow a thicker skin.

Call me biased if you want, but you realize a) I’m angry about it, but recognize I can’t do anything, and b) I’m not aaying we should kill them.

Also, again, why is it always Muslims and minorities are supposed to toughen up, but when white rightists are reminded of anything bad a white person did, they get to whine, deny it, and kill over it? Not all of them, of course, but too many.

You’re reading too much into what I’m saying - YOU, Insaanistan, need to grow a thicker skin.

[Insaanistan]

Not caring doesn’t make you tougher. And bombers don’t represent Muslims. I certainly don’t want to kill anyone. I have Christians in my family who would beat the crap of of the comic illustrator for making fun of Jesus (pbuh), both Scots and Africans.

Sounds like a family problem rather than a society problem.

While I admit, my family can be crazy, I wasn’t saying Christianity was the problem, simply that it’s not a representative of everyone, and we have a right to protest if see there’s a problem with something. It’s not like we’re going around with tiki torches shouting, “Jews will not replace us!”

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Good. When we bow to terrorists the terrorists win.

I’m a terrorist?

I guess so. I mean, all I said was "terrorists" in regards to the terrorists that attacked the Charlie Hebdo office for publishing Mohammad cartoons and you're taking offense to it for... some reason. I can't really see anyone taking offense to my comment other than a terrorist.

So if you're not a terrorist, maybe you shouldn't feel offended at my hostility toward terrorists, hm?

[Insaanistan]

I’m a terrorist?

I guess so. I mean, all I said was "terrorists" in regards to the terrorists that attacked the Charlie Hebdo office for publishing Mohammad cartoons and you're taking offense to it for... some reason. I can't really see anyone taking offense to my comment other than a terrorist.

So if you're not a terrorist, maybe you shouldn't feel offended at my hostility toward terrorists, hm?

When you said bow to terrorists, firstly, I’m an American Muslim teen. People usually don’t say terrorist around me unless they’re calling me one or asking me about it, sorry. Secondly, you said that as if Muslims in general are okay with Muhammad (pbuh) being ridiculed, and only terrorists are. Please rephrase.

[The Alma Mater]

I guess so. I mean, all I said was "terrorists" in regards to the terrorists that attacked the Charlie Hebdo office for publishing Mohammad cartoons and you're taking offense to it for... some reason. I can't really see anyone taking offense to my comment other than a terrorist.

So if you're not a terrorist, maybe you shouldn't feel offended at my hostility toward terrorists, hm?

When you said bow to terrorists, firstly, I’m an American Muslim teen. People usually don’t say terrorist around me unless they’re calling me one or asking me about it, sorry. Secondly, you said that as if Muslims in general are okay with Muhammad (pbuh) being ridiculed, and only terrorists are. Please rephrase.

He expicitly used terrorist to denote the muslims (which you claim are non-muslims) that responded to the cartoons with massmurder.

Admittedly your response to that also triggered me to be less nice to you. I apologise - but take your own advice about rephrasing as well.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

If Islam wants a better name in the West, not getting butthurt over the most trivial things would be a start

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I guess so. I mean, all I said was "terrorists" in regards to the terrorists that attacked the Charlie Hebdo office for publishing Mohammad cartoons and you're taking offense to it for... some reason. I can't really see anyone taking offense to my comment other than a terrorist.

So if you're not a terrorist, maybe you shouldn't feel offended at my hostility toward terrorists, hm?

When you said bow to terrorists, firstly, I’m an American Muslim teen. People usually don’t say terrorist around me unless they’re calling me one or asking me about it, sorry. Secondly, you said that as if Muslims in general are okay with Muhammad (pbuh) being ridiculed, and only terrorists are. Please rephrase.

Please point to where I mentioned Muslims.

I realize my signature states that I'm an Islamophobe, but consider diving into my factbook on the subject to understand what exactly I mean by that before jumping to conclusions and pulling out the victim card.

[Insaanistan]

When you said bow to terrorists, firstly, I’m an American Muslim teen. People usually don’t say terrorist around me unless they’re calling me one or asking me about it, sorry. Secondly, you said that as if Muslims in general are okay with Muhammad (pbuh) being ridiculed, and only terrorists are. Please rephrase.

He expicitly used terrorist to denote the muslims (which you claim are non-muslims) that responded to the cartoons with massmurder.

Admittedly your response to that also triggered me to be less nice to you. I apologise - but take your own advice about rephrasing as well.

I’m sorry, what in my post made you angry? I might rephrase it if you tell me.

[Paddy O Fernature]

If Islam wants a better name in the West, not getting butthurt over the most trivial things would be a start

Anyone else find it ironic that this is having to be explained to an self proclaimed American teen convert?

[Insaanistan]

If Islam wants a better name in the West, not getting butthurt over the most trivial things would be a start

Insulting a central religious figure seems pretty big to me. Also, our bad name comes from everyone assuming we’re ISIS because some illiterate imbeciles said so. In the (paraphrased words of Ismail Loutfi): “Most minorities when you ask them a question will say ‘Man, I don’t speak for all my people, just look it up. We’re not a monolith.’ As a Muslim I say, when the question is about us: don’t Google it. Half of the results are white supremacists saying we’re all ISIS, and the other half is ISIIS members saying we’re all ISIS. The internet is not our friend. Just ask a Muslim. Now, you might be thinking, ‘Ismail, I don’t know any Muslims.’ Well, luckily, there’s an app that will send a Muslim directly to you. It’s called Uber. If you download it and ask for a ride, a Lebanese dude names Mansur will come by. When you get in the car just go like, ‘So sharia law.’ That’s it, he will explain everything.”

[The Reformed American Republic]

Good on them, don't bow down to Islamic terrorism.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Based, I can respect the bravery to do it again.

Definitely brave on their part. I support this, better than letting those Islamist pricks win after they resorted to terror attacks.

[Punished UMN]

Tbh the writers of the magazine are intentionally provocative and assholish. I supported them initially, but it's pretty clear that they're trying to piss everyone off and that they lack any decency.

[The Two Jerseys]

We still don’t want people portraying him. Many Muslims don’t even like their picture taken (though it’s a minority, mainly in rural areas of the Middle East and South/Southeast Asia). Especially cartoons that are meant to ridicule him. Out of respect, you know?

Why should I follow the rules of a religion I don’t even follow?

As Stan Marsh said all the way back in 2006, "No, Muslims can't show Muhammad. We can."

[Andsed]

I mean I have shit talked and disrespected religion plenty of times and it works pretty well as a fuck you to terrorism (just to clarify when I say that I do not mean Islam as a whole) so uh cool.

[Kowani]

Women are like elephants because they never forget, didn’t come from nowhere

So just frick science ‘cuz you don’t like Islam now?

An odd claim, seeing how you never responded to my post with scientific evidence pointing out how women tend to have better memories than men.

[Insaanistan]

So just frick science ‘cuz you don’t like Islam now?

An odd claim, seeing how you never responded to my post with scientific evidence pointing out how women tend to have better memories than men.

I didn’t see it. Please repost it. Though I do recall you claiming that and me asking whether or not they tested pregnant women or new mothers.