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Opinion On Same-Sex Marriage

Legal
162
79%
Illegal
32
16%
Abstain/ Unsure
12
6%
 
Total votes : 206

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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:42 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:only to you heretics, the jewish faith also says sex is to strengthen the bonds of marriage.


The Son of God was crucified by Jews like a common criminal, and you, the person who has taken upon himself to speak for all other Jews, have the temerity to call us Christians heretic.


He was crucified for telling Pilot he was the son of Adam. That quibble apart

Yup, though I am only speaking for myself as a jew.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:46 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Okay but WHY just a man and a woman? What's the reason for it?


The male and female genitals are naturally compatible. Man and woman are designed for coitus. A certain part of the human anatomy, including the mouth, isn't. Male sperm carries the seed of human life to the egg inside the woman by sexual intercourse between man and woman as intended, and male ejaculation is intended to result in the creation of life, not spilled in vain during masturbation or any other sexual act which isn't coitus.

“Spilled in vain”. What on earth?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:47 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:only to you heretics, the jewish faith also says sex is to strengthen the bonds of marriage.


The Son of God was crucified by Jews like a common criminal, and you, the person who has taken upon himself to speak for all other Jews, have the temerity to call us Christians heretic.


I mean, you are. Second Coming is an explicit admission that Jesus was not the Messiah and failed to meet the criteria.
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Jedi Council
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Postby Jedi Council » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:48 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
The male and female genitals are naturally compatible. Man and woman are designed for coitus. A certain part of the human anatomy, including the mouth, isn't. Male sperm carries the seed of human life to the egg inside the woman by sexual intercourse between man and woman as intended, and male ejaculation is intended to result in the creation of life, not spilled in vain during masturbation or any other sexual act which isn't coitus.

“Spilled in vain”. What on earth?

Apparently, to paraphrase George Carlin, every ejaculation does deserve a name.
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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:49 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:only to you heretics, the jewish faith also says sex is to strengthen the bonds of marriage.


The Son of God was crucified by Jews like a common criminal, and you, the person who has taken upon himself to speak for all other Jews, have the temerity to call us Christians heretic.

The "son of god" was a Jew, and the Jewish people as a whole aren't to blame for killing him just like Christians as a whole aren't to blame for slavery and the KKK.

BTW you have no say over what anyone does with their sperm. The body generates tons of that stuff and there are plenty of people around, it's cool if someone wants to get some out somewhere besides a vagina.

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Kiu Ghesik
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
The Son of God was crucified by Jews like a common criminal, and you, the person who has taken upon himself to speak for all other Jews, have the temerity to call us Christians heretic.


I mean, you are. Second Coming is an explicit admission that Jesus was not the Messiah and failed to meet the criteria.

How?
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:50 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:“Spilled in vain”. What on earth?

Apparently, to paraphrase George Carlin, every ejaculation does deserve a name.

Even though all the billions of individual sperm cells will die save one? If you ask me, it’s nobody’s business how a man blows his load or where, in a consensual relationship between two adults.
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Postby Jedi Council » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:53 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Apparently, to paraphrase George Carlin, every ejaculation does deserve a name.

Even though all the billions of individual sperm cells will die save one? If you ask me, it’s nobody’s business how a man blows his load or where, in a consensual relationship between two adults.

I agree.

Certain prudes dont.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:53 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I mean, you are. Second Coming is an explicit admission that Jesus was not the Messiah and failed to meet the criteria.

How?


There wouldn't need to be a Second Coming if Christ was the Messiah because the Messiah is supposed to bring peace to all of the world, rule and lead the Jewish people, ensure all the peoples of the Earth recognize the Jewish God as the one true god etc etc. Christ did none of these things, hence Second Coming doctrine being an asterisks tacked on where his followers totally insist he will at unidentified point in the future.
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West Leas Oros 2
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:54 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Even though all the billions of individual sperm cells will die save one? If you ask me, it’s nobody’s business how a man blows his load or where, in a consensual relationship between two adults.

I agree.

Certain prudes dont.

Riddle me this. Why else would God care about what a man does with his penis, unless God was gay?
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:56 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:How?


There wouldn't need to be a Second Coming if Christ was the Messiah because the Messiah is supposed to bring peace to all of the world, rule and lead the Jewish people, ensure all the peoples of the Earth recognize the Jewish God as the one true god etc etc. Christ did none of these things, hence Second Coming doctrine being an asterisks tacked on where his followers totally insist he will at unidentified point in the future.

Aight, I guess you could argue that.

Though it never says he's gotta do it all in one sitting, so you can't disprove he won't, from that point of view.
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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:56 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Apparently, to paraphrase George Carlin, every ejaculation does deserve a name.

Even though all the billions of individual sperm cells will die save one? If you ask me, it’s nobody’s business how a man blows his load or where, in a consensual relationship between two adults.

They only live a couple months anyways and the body's always generating more.

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Jedi Council
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Postby Jedi Council » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:56 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:I agree.

Certain prudes dont.

Riddle me this. Why else would God care about what a man does with his penis, unless God was gay?

Maybe he is, we know that the Catholic Church at he very least attracts, shall we say, a certain kind of individual
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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:00 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:I agree.

Certain prudes dont.

Riddle me this. Why else would God care about what a man does with his penis, unless God was gay?

Good point, it's kinda weird that a homophobic male god would be using his powers to look at penises
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:02 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:I agree.

Certain prudes dont.

Riddle me this. Why else would God care about what a man does with his penis, unless God was gay?

Not only is God gay, he is an extreme perv about it.

And that's why Gay sex needs to be stopped. It distracts God from his normal duties of stopping earthquakes, and randomly curing cancer.
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Jedi Council
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Postby Jedi Council » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:03 pm

Cordel One wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Riddle me this. Why else would God care about what a man does with his penis, unless God was gay?

Good point, it's kinda hypocritical of a homophobic god to watch what people do with their penises lol

Its also strange to accept advice regarding sexual morality from a clutch of ostensible virgins.

Those denominations that allowed married clergy being an exception to that particular oddity.
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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:04 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Good point, it's kinda hypocritical of a homophobic god to watch what people do with their penises lol

Its also strange to accept advice regarding sexual morality from a clutch of ostensible virgins.

Those denominations that allowed married clergy being an exception to that particular oddity.

By Turelisa's logic isn't that a waste of sperm too?

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Postby Jedi Council » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:05 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Its also strange to accept advice regarding sexual morality from a clutch of ostensible virgins.

Those denominations that allowed married clergy being an exception to that particular oddity.

By Turelisa's logic isn't that a waste of sperm too?

I highly doubt he would approve of marriage among the clergy.
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:05 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:I agree.

Certain prudes dont.

Riddle me this. Why else would God care about what a man does with his penis, unless God was gay?


Or unsure of his sexuality....

Now trying to wade back to the topic. i think it was a way to keep the folks apart from the pagan sects that allowed or encouraged homosexuality. Much like the dietary laws kept the people from eating together and socializing over food.

I would want someone more qualified to comment but even back then there was a divide between the cosmopolitan cities and the pastoral County; and the folks with the sheep were then as now more conservative in outlook.
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State of Turelisa
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Postby State of Turelisa » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:05 pm

Necroghastia wrote:Okay but WHY just a man and a woman? What's the reason for it?


I've already explained. God's intention is for love between man and woman.

Well, someone hasn't read up on everything the prostate does...


The prostrate's spasm under sexual stimulation from a foreign object isn't its purpose. It's clearly unnatural and dangerous, given the consequences - periprostatic hemorrhage, epticaemia, possible disturbance and metastasis of prostate cancer to other parts of the body, aggravation of hemorrhoids and rectal fissures.


So, what about gay couples where one person is cis and the other is pre- or non-op trans?


A person is the sex in which one was born.

So like... what about the elderly and infertile? People who are unable to have children? Should they be unable to be wed? Or have their marriages annulled post-menopause?


Your bible quote about cleavage and becoming one flesh said nothing about reproduction, just banging.


Sexual intercourse is a redeemable sin which God allows for the reproduction of the human race. Any sexual activity outside of marriage and inside marriage which isn't done for God's purpose is simply a sin.
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Postby State of Turelisa » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:09 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Riddle me this. Why else would God care about what a man does with his penis, unless God was gay?

Not only is God gay, he is an extreme perv about it.

And that's why Gay sex needs to be stopped. It distracts God from his normal duties of stopping earthquakes, and randomly curing cancer.


This would have been religious libel once. You must be so glad to be living in a free society where you may freely blaspheme without penalty of having your tongue cut out and your ears cropped or at the least being fined.
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Postby Jedi Council » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:11 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Not only is God gay, he is an extreme perv about it.

And that's why Gay sex needs to be stopped. It distracts God from his normal duties of stopping earthquakes, and randomly curing cancer.


This would have been religious libel once. You must be so glad to be living in a free society where you may freely blaspheme without penalty of having your tongue cut out and your ears cropped or at the least being fined.

And you wonder why people get turned off of religion?

It's because of people like you.
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Necroghastia
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:12 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Okay but WHY just a man and a woman? What's the reason for it?


I've already explained. God's intention is for love between man and woman.

So? Why should anyone care?
Well, someone hasn't read up on everything the prostate does...


The prostrate's spasm under sexual stimulation from a foreign object isn't not its purpose. It's clearly unnatural and dangerous, given the consequences - periprostatic hemorrhage, epticaemia, possible disturbance and metastasis of prostate cancer to other parts of the body, aggravation of hemorrhoids and rectal fissures.

lolwut
sounds like someone didn't know what they were doing
So, what about gay couples where one person is cis and the other is pre- or non-op trans?


A person is the sex in which one was born.

Ok but sex isn't gender.
So like... what about the elderly and infertile? People who are unable to have children? Should they be unable to be wed? Or have their marriages annulled post-menopause?


Your bible quote about cleavage and becoming one flesh said nothing about reproduction, just banging.


Sexual intercourse is a redeemable sin which God allows for the reproduction of the human race.

if god allows it why make it a sin in the first place lmao
seems kinda weird and counterproductive to be like "yeah this is bad don't do this, but also you need to do this"
Any sexual activity outside of marriage and inside marriage which isn't done for God's purpose is simply a sin.

According to...?
I'll also note that you didn't answer the question of whether the infertile/elderly should have their marriages annulled...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:13 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
This would have been religious libel once. You must be so glad to be living in a free society where you may freely blaspheme without penalty of having your tongue cut out and your ears cropped or at the least being fined.

And you wonder why people get turned off of religion?

It's because of people like you.


Hey now, us pagans are chill. It's the Abrahamic sorts that are all nasty about the topic :p
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:13 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Not only is God gay, he is an extreme perv about it.

And that's why Gay sex needs to be stopped. It distracts God from his normal duties of stopping earthquakes, and randomly curing cancer.


This would have been religious libel once. You must be so glad to be living in a free society where you may freely blaspheme without penalty of having your tongue cut out and your ears cropped or at the least being fined.

I am. Blasphemy is a victimless crime.
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