Opinion On Same-Sex Marriage

[Kannap]

Marriage predated Christianity by thousands of years, I'm not sure why the religious feel the need to claim it as though it was some divinely inspired union.

Before Christianity, Man was in the fallen, irredeemable state of total depravity, and anything of which he conceived, including marital union, was invalid because it was without God's sanction.

So then it follows that all the marriages in the birthline leading to Jesus were invalid and therefore Jesus was totally depraved and irredeemable?

Of course this isn't the topic of the thread so what does any of this horrible understanding of history have to do with same sex marriage?

[Ethel mermania]

Marriage predated Christianity by thousands of years, I'm not sure why the religious feel the need to claim it as though it was some divinely inspired union.

Before Christianity, Man was in the fallen, irredeemable state of total depravity, and anything of which he conceived, including marital union, was invalid because it was without God's sanction.

Same sex marriage and adoption shouldn’t be allowed and neither should divorce? Why?

The question of whether it's right or wrong that homosexuals adopt children is not the topic of the thread. You've asked it again and again.
Please stop.

Speaking as a jew, your notions of man and God are dogmatic and false. The notion of Marriage is in the Jewish tradition (as well as innumerable pagan traditions) predating the false notions of people who misinterpreted what a jew said, and somehow pronounced him 'god'. Take your flase and heretical belief system elsewhere and keep it out of public governance. The history of your religion has caused numerous problems for humans for centuries, and has killed millions of my people, it would be nice if y'all would stop.

[Ethel mermania]

Marriage predated Christianity by thousands of years, I'm not sure why the religious feel the need to claim it as though it was some divinely inspired union.

Before Christianity, Man was in the fallen, irredeemable state of total depravity, and anything of which he conceived, including marital union, was invalid because it was without God's sanction.

Same sex marriage and adoption shouldn’t be allowed and neither should divorce? Why?

The question of whether it's right or wrong that homosexuals adopt children is not the topic of the thread. You've asked it again and again.
Please stop.

Speaking as a jew, your notions of man and God are dogmatic and false. The notion of Marriage is in the Jewish tradition (as well as innumerable pagan traditions) predating the false notions of people who misinterpreted what a jew said, and somehow pronounced him 'god'.

Take your false and heretical belief system elsewhere and keep it out of public governance. The history of your religion has caused numerous problems for humans for centuries, and has killed millions of my people, it would be nice if y'all would stop.

[Necroghastia]

Marriage predated Christianity by thousands of years, I'm not sure why the religious feel the need to claim it as though it was some divinely inspired union.

Before Christianity, Man was in the fallen, irredeemable state of total depravity, and anything of which he conceived, including marital union, was invalid because it was without God's sanction.

Oh, I'm sure Jewish people just love you.

Same sex marriage and adoption shouldn’t be allowed and neither should divorce? Why?

The question of whether it's right or wrong that homosexuals adopt children is not the topic of the thread. You've asked it again and again.
Please stop.

You'll note that there are two other things Lumen asked.

[Jedi Council]

Before Christianity, Man was in the fallen, irredeemable state of total depravity, and anything of which he conceived, including marital union, was invalid because it was without God's sanction.

What about the Old Testament? There was marriage then, and I'd argue that it was legitimate even though it came before Christianity.

Not to mention the numerous civilizations that were far more advanced than the Jewish peoples or even the Early Christian's.

[Ethel mermania]

What about the Old Testament? There was marriage then, and I'd argue that it was legitimate even though it came before Christianity.

Not to mention the numerous civilizations that were far more advanced than the Jewish peoples or even the Early Christian's.

The philistines got a bad rap, agreed

[Jedi Council]

Not to mention the numerous civilizations that were far more advanced than the Jewish peoples or even the Early Christian's.

The philistines got a bad rap, agreed

Let's not even talk about the Greeks.

[State of Turelisa]

Before Christianity, Man was in the fallen, irredeemable state of total depravity, and anything of which he conceived, including marital union, was invalid because it was without God's sanction.



The question of whether it's right or wrong that homosexuals adopt children is not the topic of the thread. You've asked it again and again.
Please stop.

Speaking as a jew, your notions of man and God are dogmatic and false. The notion of Marriage is in the Jewish tradition (as well as innumerable pagan traditions) predating the false notions of people who misinterpreted what a jew said, and somehow pronounced him 'god'. Take your flase [sic]and heretical belief system elsewhere and keep it out of public governance. The history of your religion has caused numerous problems for humans for centuries, and has killed millions of my people, it would be nice if y'all would stop.

In my book, heresy is denying the divinity of Christ. As for the slaughter of peoples, Zionism has been quite prolific in that respect in the Middle East.

[Jedi Council]

Speaking as a jew, your notions of man and God are dogmatic and false. The notion of Marriage is in the Jewish tradition (as well as innumerable pagan traditions) predating the false notions of people who misinterpreted what a jew said, and somehow pronounced him 'god'. Take your flase [sic]and heretical belief system elsewhere and keep it out of public governance. The history of your religion has caused numerous problems for humans for centuries, and has killed millions of my people, it would be nice if y'all would stop.

In my book, heresy is denying the divinity of Christ. As for the slaughter of peoples, Zionism has been quite prolific in that respect in the Middle East.

If we are talking body counts Christianity has an impressive record too, let's not forget.

[The New California Republic]

Speaking as a jew, your notions of man and God are dogmatic and false. The notion of Marriage is in the Jewish tradition (as well as innumerable pagan traditions) predating the false notions of people who misinterpreted what a jew said, and somehow pronounced him 'god'. Take your flase [sic]and heretical belief system elsewhere and keep it out of public governance. The history of your religion has caused numerous problems for humans for centuries, and has killed millions of my people, it would be nice if y'all would stop.

In my book, heresy is denying the divinity of Christ. As for the slaughter of peoples, Zionism has been quite prolific in that respect in the Middle East.

Oh, I'm sure Jewish people just love you.

^Really helping with that.

[Kannap]

antisemitism isn't the topic of thread.

[Novus America]

In my book, heresy is denying the divinity of Christ. As for the slaughter of peoples, Zionism has been quite prolific in that respect in the Middle East.

If we are talking body counts Christianity has an impressive record too, let's not forget.

Yes but wanking as to who should win the atrocity Olympics hardly contributes to the thread.

[Outer Acharet]

If we are talking body counts Christianity has an impressive record too, let's not forget.

Yes but wanking as to who should win the atrocity Olympics hardly contributes to the thread.

This thread was practically asking for it, to be fair. It really prompted nothing but for people with, er, strong opinions to come out and get mad over rainbow flags.

[Baltenstein]

Marriage predated Christianity by thousands of years, I'm not sure why the religious feel the need to claim it as though it was some divinely inspired union.

Before Christianity, Man was in the fallen, irredeemable state of total depravity, and anything of which he conceived, including marital union, was invalid because it was without God's sanction.

At this point, I like to imagine two Roman gentlemen, sitting in the ruins of their former classical estates while Germanic barbarians are pillaging, raping and destroying everything around them and one of them goes "phew, at least we escaped the total depravity we were in before Jesus"

[Ethel mermania]

If we are talking body counts Christianity has an impressive record too, let's not forget.

Yes but wanking as to who should win the atrocity Olympics hardly contributes to the thread.

People who slaughter others for their beliefs, are trying to push another one of their beliefs on the masses? Fits just fine.

[State of Turelisa]

antisemitism isn't the topic of thread.

And there's no Antisemitism in the thread, either.

[Shazbotdom]

antisemitism isn't the topic of thread.

And there's no Antisemitism in the thread, either.

[The New California Republic]

antisemitism isn't the topic of thread.

Indeed it is not.

[Kannap]

antisemitism isn't the topic of thread.

And there's no Antisemitism in the thread, either.

You could've fooled me

[State of Turelisa]

And there's no Antisemitism in the thread, either.

You could've fooled me

Anti-Zionism is not necessarily antisemitism.
There are Jews who are anti-Zionist.

[Farnhamia]

You could've fooled me

Anti-Zionism is not necessarily antisemitism.
There are Jews who are anti-Zionist.

Very true. They aren't the topic, either.

[Kannap]

You could've fooled me

Anti-Zionism is not necessarily antisemitism.
There are Jews who are anti-Zionist.

Sure, that's what your "total depravity before Christianity" statement meant, rather than antisemitism.

Look, I don't care who you choose to hate and I can't stop you from hating them. But this thread isn't the place to discuss it, take it somewhere else. Preferably to another website, we don't need it here.

[State of Turelisa]

Anti-Zionism is not necessarily antisemitism.
There are Jews who are anti-Zionist.

Sure, that's what your "total depravity before Christianity" statement meant, rather than antisemitism.

Look, I don't care who you choose to hate and I can't stop you from hating them. But this thread isn't the place to discuss it, take it somewhere else. Preferably to another website, we don't need it here.

And yet you chose to accuse me of anti-Semitism, instead of being 'on topic.'

[Farnhamia]

Everyone, move on, please.

[San Lumen]

To get this back on topic I have yet to hear a valid argument as to why same sex couples shouldn’t be allowed to marry or adopt other than citing the Bible.