Opinion On Same-Sex Marriage

[San Lumen]

You have any evidence of that absurd claim?

Sure do!

Was he forced to marry another man? The answer is no therefore I fail to see your point.

[New haven america]

You cry over virginal women in their 70's?

... Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Not every religious sister is an older woman, those who do fit that description nonetheless are still very beautiful. Any woman who resembles Our Lady is a tear-inducing sight.

Have you considered therapy?

[Jedi Council]

You cry over virginal women in their 70's?

... Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Not every religious sister is an older woman, those who do fit that description nonetheless are still very beautiful. Any woman who resembles Our Lady is a tear-inducing sight.

Including the many who abused children, both physically, mentally, and sexually, or those that covered up for the crimes of others. Yes, I too would shed a tear if I ever met such monsters.

God creates homosexuality, but I don't think you believe that he is capable of creating sin.

Homosexuality is not sinful. In fact, sexuality in general is not sinful. It's sexual acts contrary to or outside of the sacrament of matrimony that are sinful.

Why?

Why are sexual acts sinful? It's an act of biology, as natural as eating or shitting. Why must is occur specifically within a certain set of rules? Why does God care who you do it with?

[Sundiata]

Not every religious sister is an older woman, those who do fit that description nonetheless are still very beautiful. Any woman who resembles Our Lady is a tear-inducing sight.

Have you considered therapy?

Why would I? It's a blessing to be in their company, the company of any woman really.

[Telconi]

Sure do!

Was he forced to marry another man? The answer is no therefore I fail to see your point.

The things that you fail to see aren't relevant. He was forced to contribute to the action of two men marrying, thus disproving the concept that it doesn't effect anyone else.

If you want to defend it's lack of extraneous effect, stop forcing people to be effected.

[New haven america]

Have you considered therapy?

Why would I? It's a blessing to be in their company as well as the company of any woman.

All I'm saying is that if you start crying at the very sight of a nun then there's probably an underlying issue that should be looked at.

[Jedi Council]

Have you considered therapy?

Why would I? It's a blessing to be in their company, the company of any woman really.

Tell that to the multitudes they abused.

[San Lumen]

Was he forced to marry another man? The answer is no therefore I fail to see your point.

The things that you fail to see aren't relevant. He was forced to contribute to the action of two men marrying, thus disproving the concept that it doesn't effect anyone else.

If you want to defend it's lack of extraneous effect, stop forcing people to be effected.

He wasn’t forced to do anything. The court ruled in his favor albeit very narrowly.

[Telconi]

The things that you fail to see aren't relevant. He was forced to contribute to the action of two men marrying, thus disproving the concept that it doesn't effect anyone else.

If you want to defend it's lack of extraneous effect, stop forcing people to be effected.

He wasn’t forced to do anything. The court ruled in his favor albeit very narrowly.

So you agree with the court in that instance?

[Sundiata]

Why does God care who you do it with?

Because sex within the bounds of the matrimonial sacrament consummates a marriage. To be married is to be open to the following things: intimacy, struggle, child-bearing, and God's love. It's to become one flesh with one's spouse and share in the mystery that is God's love for us all.

[New haven america]

He wasn’t forced to do anything. The court ruled in his favor albeit very narrowly.

So you agree with the court in that instance?

Nope.

A public business is open to the public. If he didn't want to serve them then he should've opened a bakery club, as clubs are still sadly legally allowed to discriminate.

[Heloin]

Have you considered therapy?

Why would I? It's a blessing to be in their company, the company of any woman really.

The Mother Superior at the Catholic school I went to as a kid was a swearing Afrikaner in her late 80s who said she didn't care which of us turned out gay, so long as you memorised the fucking prayers you'd turn out alright. She also punched a homophobic American missionary.

[Crockerland]

relationships don't happen in a vacuum. gay marriage is ok not just because it's between two consenting adults, but because its effects on wider society aren't negative, and that has to be acknowledged as well. things like bdsm and pornography might be between consenting individuals, but are still overall harmful.

How are BDSM or pornography harmful, provided the participants are consenting adults?

If we are talking about corporate porn involving paid "actors" (prostitutes), that could be harmful as in many cases. There is no real difference between corporate pornography and prostitution, which is criminalized for good reason in most countries, aside from that one is filmed. Said prostitution relies on the victimization of impoverished women - whose choices are to either go homeless and sleep on the street (where they will likely face the threat of physical violence, rape, robbery, etc. daily) or be so-called sex "workers."

This especially affects disadvantaged groups such as transgender individuals, as explained by the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS:

Evidence suggests that, in some settings, a significant proportion of young transgender women engage in selling sex. This is often a result of social exclusion, economic vulnerability and difficulty in finding employment (11). In El Salvador, close to 47% of transgender women reported that their main income comes from selling sex (12). Selling sex has been significantly associated with low levels of education, homelessness, drug use and a perceived lack of social support

A predator targeting destitute women for his own sexual gratification seems like a harmful situation to me. If it's filmed and that predator is calling himself a "director" I can't say I think that changes much. Much like a man getting a woman drunk or high before having his way with her, we would recognize that this is a situation where, although consent has been given, this consent is given under such circumstances so as to make the dynamic between the two parties a one-sided and predatory one.


However, there are other things we might refer to as porn which are not harmful. There's nothing wrong with a couple having sex and deciding to film it, or share that recording with whoever they like. Things like erotic literature, drawings, and statues are also non-harmful, and would be protected under the Freedom of Expression.

[Telconi]

So you agree with the court in that instance?

Nope.

A public business is open to the public. If he didn't want to serve them then he should've opened a bakery club, as clubs are still sadly legally allowed to discriminate.

Well I didn't expect better, you're seemingly saddened by all things decent.

[Sundiata]

Why would I? It's a blessing to be in their company as well as the company of any woman.

All I'm saying is that if you start crying at the very sight of a nun then there's probably an underlying issue that should be looked at.

When you come to understand the beauty of Mary you'll come to realize how how blessed they are, and in turn, all women too.

[-SARS-]

Why would I? It's a blessing to be in their company, the company of any woman really.

The Mother Superior at the Catholic school I went to as a kid was a swearing Afrikaner in her late 80s who said she didn't care which of us turned out gay, so long as you memorised the fucking prayers you'd turn out alright. She also punched a homophobic American missionary.

That sounds kind of awesome, actually.

[Sundiata]

Why would I? It's a blessing to be in their company, the company of any woman really.

The Mother Superior at the Catholic school I went to as a kid was a swearing Afrikaner in her late 80s who said she didn't care which of us turned out gay, so long as you memorised the fucking prayers you'd turn out alright. She also punched a homophobic American missionary.

While she is standing up for what is right there's a beauty in that. However, I don't condone of violence or homophobia. I'm glad she didn't stand for the latter.

[Jedi Council]

Why does God care who you do it with?

Because sex within the bounds of the matrimonial sacrament consummates a marriage. To be married is to be open to the following things: intimacy, struggle, child-bearing, and God's love. It's to become one flesh with one's spouse and share in the mystery that is God's love for us all.

Ah so just metaphysical nonsense then, gotcha

[San Lumen]

How are BDSM or pornography harmful, provided the participants are consenting adults?

If we are talking about corporate porn involving paid "actors" (prostitutes), that could be harmful as in many cases. There is no real difference between corporate pornography and prostitution, which is criminalized for good reason in most countries, aside from that one is filmed. Said prostitution relies on the victimization of impoverished women - whose choices are to either go homeless and sleep on the street (where they will likely face the threat of physical violence, rape, robbery, etc. daily) or be so-called sex "workers."

This especially affects disadvantaged groups such as transgender individuals, as explained by the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS:

Evidence suggests that, in some settings, a significant proportion of young transgender women engage in selling sex. This is often a result of social exclusion, economic vulnerability and difficulty in finding employment (11). In El Salvador, close to 47% of transgender women reported that their main income comes from selling sex (12). Selling sex has been significantly associated with low levels of education, homelessness, drug use and a perceived lack of social support

A predator targeting destitute women for his own sexual gratification seems like a harmful situation to me. If it's filmed and that predator is calling himself a "director" I can't say I think that changes much. Much like a man getting a woman drunk or high before having his way with her, we would recognize that this is a situation where, although consent has been given, this consent is given under such circumstances so as to make the dynamic between the two parties a one-sided and predatory one.


However, there are other things we might refer to as porn which are not harmful. There's nothing wrong with a couple having sex and deciding to film it, or share that recording with whoever they like. Things like erotic literature, drawings, and statues are also non-harmful, and would be protected under the Freedom of Expression.

You clearly know nothing about the industry. Good studios pay their actors well and treat them well and are working for them under their on free will. They can leave at any time. What harm is being done if they are working there because they want too? This is better suited for its on thread though.

[New haven america]

The Mother Superior at the Catholic school I went to as a kid was a swearing Afrikaner in her late 80s who said she didn't care which of us turned out gay, so long as you memorised the fucking prayers you'd turn out alright. She also punched a homophobic American missionary.

While she is standing up for what is right there's a beauty in that. However, I don't condone of violence or homophobia. I'm glad she didn't stand for the latter.

Well except you do because you don't believe LGBT should be allowed to get married.

[Telconi]

While she is standing up for what is right there's a beauty in that. However, I don't condone of violence or homophobia. I'm glad she didn't stand for the latter.

Well except you do because you don't believe LGBT should be allowed to get married.

"Phobia" means "fear", not "Thinks this thing ought not get married"

[Neutraligon]

All I'm saying is that if you start crying at the very sight of a nun then there's probably an underlying issue that should be looked at.

When you come to understand the beauty of Mary you'll come to realize how how blessed they are, and in turn, all women too.

Since Mary is long dead, if she ever existed, I doubt I will ever "see her beauty" nor do I see what her looks/personality has to do with SSM.

[Telconi]

If we are talking about corporate porn involving paid "actors" (prostitutes), that could be harmful as in many cases. There is no real difference between corporate pornography and prostitution, which is criminalized for good reason in most countries, aside from that one is filmed. Said prostitution relies on the victimization of impoverished women - whose choices are to either go homeless and sleep on the street (where they will likely face the threat of physical violence, rape, robbery, etc. daily) or be so-called sex "workers."

This especially affects disadvantaged groups such as transgender individuals, as explained by the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS:

Evidence suggests that, in some settings, a significant proportion of young transgender women engage in selling sex. This is often a result of social exclusion, economic vulnerability and difficulty in finding employment (11). In El Salvador, close to 47% of transgender women reported that their main income comes from selling sex (12). Selling sex has been significantly associated with low levels of education, homelessness, drug use and a perceived lack of social support

A predator targeting destitute women for his own sexual gratification seems like a harmful situation to me. If it's filmed and that predator is calling himself a "director" I can't say I think that changes much. Much like a man getting a woman drunk or high before having his way with her, we would recognize that this is a situation where, although consent has been given, this consent is given under such circumstances so as to make the dynamic between the two parties a one-sided and predatory one.


However, there are other things we might refer to as porn which are not harmful. There's nothing wrong with a couple having sex and deciding to film it, or share that recording with whoever they like. Things like erotic literature, drawings, and statues are also non-harmful, and would be protected under the Freedom of Expression.

You clearly know nothing about the industry. Good studios pay their actors well and treat them well and are working for them under their on free will. They can leave at any time. What harm is being done if they are working there because they want too? This is better suited for its on thread though.

The fact that possibly the single most famous pornographic actor is presently on trial for literally dozens of incidents where he abused his co-workers seems to indicate otherwise.

[Neutraligon]

Well except you do because you don't believe LGBT should be allowed to get married.

"Phobia" means "fear", not "Thinks this thing ought not get married"

Hydrophobic does not mean a substance fears water.

[Telconi]

"Phobia" means "fear", not "Thinks this thing ought not get married"

Hydrophobic does not mean a substance fears water.

It also doesn't mean that water ought not get married.