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Opinion On Same-Sex Marriage

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Illegal
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Postby Geneviev » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:45 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It's not invalid as long as it is God's plan for them.


God's plan is Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh. It explicitly is not sodomy, or any other form of sexual contact between two people of the same sex.

I agree that Jesus spoke against divorce. But when people are created with different sexual orientation, that is God's creation and it is good.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It's not invalid as long as it is God's plan for them.


God's plan is Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh. It explicitly is not sodomy, or any other form of sexual contact between two people of the same sex.


Which is a valid reason for christians (at least those who share your interpretation) to not have a gay marriage.

Why should others be forced to adhere to the rules of your religion though ? I assume you would not like it if a Hindu forced you to not eat cow, or a Sikh to stop shaving.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:48 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It's not invalid as long as it is God's plan for them.


God's plan is Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh. It explicitly is not sodomy, or any other form of sexual contact between two people of the same sex.

God's plan is shit, then. Lots of people make life choices other than "Have a heterosexual marriage" that work out just fine for them. It's absurd to call this invalid when it's happening every day perfectly validly.
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Postby State of Turelisa » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
God's plan is Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh. It explicitly is not sodomy, or any other form of sexual contact between two people of the same sex.

God's plan is shit, then. Lots of people make life choices other than "Have a heterosexual marriage" that work out just fine for them. It's absurd to call this invalid when it's happening every day perfectly validly.


Reject it. That's your choice.

Donestk wrote:Just that the whole idea of same-sex marriage is wrong, it doesnt look right to be honest. Its just my opinion in end of the day and you have yours


That's your moral conscience in action. The ability to discern between right and wrong is a gift which God bestows on some people.

Geneviev wrote:I agree that Jesus spoke against divorce. But when people are created with different sexual orientation, that is God's creation and it is good.



The notion that God creates homosexuality is absurd.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:59 am

Was in favor of it when it happened, but like many people, I feel lied to by that movement. The understanding was that it would stop at gay marriage and ten years later here we are pushing gender reassignment on children and moving towards the acceptance of pedophilia. So now I no longer support the LGBT movement at all. Let's rewind the clock back to 2004.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:01 am

Bear Stearns wrote:Was in favor of it when it happened, but like many people, I feel lied to by that movement. The understanding was that it would stop at gay marriage and ten years later here we are pushing gender reassignment on children and moving towards the acceptance of pedophilia. So now I no longer support the LGBT movement at all. Let's rewind the clock back to 2004.

No they are are not.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:01 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Ifreann wrote:God's plan is shit, then. Lots of people make life choices other than "Have a heterosexual marriage" that work out just fine for them. It's absurd to call this invalid when it's happening every day perfectly validly.


Reject it. That's your choice.

And clearly folk have rightly rejected that narrow view considering same-sex marriage is legal in the many jurisdictions that various people on this thread hark from.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:03 am

State of Turelisa wrote:The notion that God creates homosexuality anything is absurd.

Ftfy.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:06 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Ifreann wrote:God's plan is shit, then. Lots of people make life choices other than "Have a heterosexual marriage" that work out just fine for them. It's absurd to call this invalid when it's happening every day perfectly validly.


Reject it. That's your choice.

What I do with my life is not the point. People indisputably have perfectly satisfactory lives outside of heterosexual marriage. Clearly God is wrong to tell us that that is how we must live our lives.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:07 am

State of Turelisa wrote:Reject it. That's your choice.

Good for me that I prefer Amaterasu before any of the vindictive entities of the biblical world then?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:08 am

State of Turelisa wrote:The notion that God creates homosexuality is absurd.


Who does then ?
And you still have not answered the question about other religions ;)
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:09 am

Bear Stearns wrote: moving towards the acceptance of pedophilia.

Discussions of pedophilia are banned, so it isn't a good idea to continue down that line.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:09 am

Bear Stearns wrote:Was in favor of it when it happened, but like many people, I feel lied to by that movement. The understanding was that it would stop at gay marriage and ten years later here we are pushing gender reassignment on children and moving towards the acceptance of pedophilia. So now I no longer support the LGBT movement at all. Let's rewind the clock back to 2004.

Eh I say we move the clock back to 2015. Trust me though many gay people aren’t supportive of the movement. The movement is led by garbage people but not everything it stands for is bad
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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:10 am

Donestk wrote: In religious views, God made a man and a woman, only they can be in a relationship together.

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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:11 am

State of Turelisa wrote:The notion that God creates homosexuality is absurd.


So tell me, who ELSE has the power to CREATE ex nihilo?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:12 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm not opposed to the idea itself but I find myself aligning more and more against the modern LGBT movement so take that how you will.

You’re not the only one. I’m for gay marriage and anti-discrimination laws but very much against the modern lgbt movement
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Postby Geneviev » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:13 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I agree that Jesus spoke against divorce. But when people are created with different sexual orientation, that is God's creation and it is good.



The notion that God creates homosexuality is absurd.

It's less absurd than any other explanation, at least.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:14 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Ifreann wrote:God's plan is shit, then. Lots of people make life choices other than "Have a heterosexual marriage" that work out just fine for them. It's absurd to call this invalid when it's happening every day perfectly validly.


Reject it. That's your choice.

Donestk wrote:Just that the whole idea of same-sex marriage is wrong, it doesnt look right to be honest. Its just my opinion in end of the day and you have yours


That's your moral conscience in action. The ability to discern between right and wrong is a gift which God bestows on some people.

Geneviev wrote:I agree that Jesus spoke against divorce. But when people are created with different sexual orientation, that is God's creation and it is good.



The notion that God creates homosexuality is absurd.

How else did homosexuality come about if god created everything? If he didn’t create it then that means he didn’t create everything and therefore isn’t all powerful
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:14 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:The notion that God creates homosexuality is absurd.


Who does then ?
And you still have not answered the question about other religions ;)

Homosexuality was invented by Sappho of Lesbos, a woman so powerfully gay that we describe gay women as being like her.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Who does then ?
And you still have not answered the question about other religions ;)

Homosexuality was invented by Sappho of Lesbos, a woman so powerfully gay that we describe gay women as being like her.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:17 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Who does then ?
And you still have not answered the question about other religions ;)

Homosexuality was invented by Sappho of Lesbos, a woman so powerfully gay that we describe gay women as being like her.


Ah, Zeus then.
Not surprising since Zeus himself liked a little boy every now and then.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:18 am

Andsed wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Homosexuality was invented by Sappho of Lesbos, a woman so powerfully gay that we describe gay women as being like her.

A true icon.

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Postby State of Turelisa » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:19 am

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Bear Stearns wrote: moving towards the acceptance of pedophilia.

Discussions of pedophilia are banned, so it isn't a good idea to continue down that line.


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The New California Republic wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:The notion that God creates homosexuality [i]anything is absurd.

Ftfy.

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Postby State of Turelisa » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:24 am

Thermodolia wrote:How else did homosexuality come about if god created everything? If he didn’t create it then that means he didn’t create everything and therefore isn’t all powerful


Your argument presupposes that homosexuality is an innate attribute, which is debatable, given the lack of scientific proof to support it, and the anecdotal evidence of people who no longer identify as homosexual.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:26 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:How else did homosexuality come about if god created everything? If he didn’t create it then that means he didn’t create everything and therefore isn’t all powerful


Your argument presupposes that homosexuality is an innate attribute, which is debatable, given the lack of scientific proof to support it, and the anecdotal evidence of people who no longer identify as homosexual.

That is complete and utter rubbish. Any mainstream psychologist will tell you it’s not a choice.

I take it your against same sex adoption too? If so what’s your reasoning?

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