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Postby Loben III » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:46 pm

US-SSR wrote:Take me back to Constantinople...


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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:48 pm

Whitemore wrote:
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You mean Islambol?

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Technically, Mehmet II was crowned Qaysar-i-Rum (Caesar of Rome), which the Patriarchate of Constantinople recognized... so Turkey is the successor of the Roman Empire...
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:51 pm

Insaanistan wrote:I think we can all agree this is pretty much Greece’s fault.

I agree with you, but judging by the comments of a similar thread not long ago we are gonna see some people try to justify Greece abandoning people in the middle of the ocean

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Postby Whitemore » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:52 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
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Oh sweet Insaanistan, take me back to the glory days of Rome.


Technically, Mehmet II was crowned Qaysar-i-Rum (Caesar of Rome), which the Patriarchate of Constantinople recognized... so Turkey is the successor of the Roman Empire...


As yes, nothing like getting the guy you appointed as Patriarchate of Constantinople to recognize you as the Emperor of Rome. Really pays off when he hates Western Europe too am I right.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:55 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
Oh sweet Insaanistan, take me back to the glory days of Rome.


Technically, Mehmet II was crowned Qaysar-i-Rum (Caesar of Rome), which the Patriarchate of Constantinople recognized... so Turkey is the successor of the Roman Empire...

By that logic, the German state is a successor of the Romans as well...
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:58 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Technically, Mehmet II was crowned Qaysar-i-Rum (Caesar of Rome), which the Patriarchate of Constantinople recognized... so Turkey is the successor of the Roman Empire...

By that logic, the German state is a successor of the Romans as well...
HRE V. Byzantium, round two, coming up!


Well, Turkey got it by conquering Roman land but tolerating Roman peoples... Germany just kinda thought it would be fun...
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:58 pm

Whitemore wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Technically, Mehmet II was crowned Qaysar-i-Rum (Caesar of Rome), which the Patriarchate of Constantinople recognized... so Turkey is the successor of the Roman Empire...


As yes, nothing like getting the guy you appointed as Patriarchate of Constantinople to recognize you as the Emperor of Rome. Really pays off when he hates Western Europe too am I right.


He didn’t actually hate Europe.
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Postby Whitemore » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:58 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:By that logic, the German state is a successor of the Romans as well...
HRE V. Byzantium, round two, coming up!


Well, Turkey got it by conquering Roman land but tolerating Roman peoples... Germany just kinda thought it would be fun...


Those darn German People!
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:59 pm

US-SSR wrote:Take me back to Constantinople...

Insaanistan wrote:
US-SSR wrote:Take me back to Constantinople...


You mean Islambol?

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Postby Whitemore » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:59 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
As yes, nothing like getting the guy you appointed as Patriarchate of Constantinople to recognize you as the Emperor of Rome. Really pays off when he hates Western Europe too am I right.


He didn’t actually hate Europe.


He was the most well known anti-western cleric at the time of the cities fall.
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Postby Great Mann » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:01 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
US-SSR wrote:Take me back to Constantinople...

Insaanistan wrote:
You mean Islambol?

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Two people who think it's funny. Study some geography lesson.
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We don’t speak Turkish. It’s common courtesy to post things in English, as it is an English-speaking website generally.
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Postby Great Mann » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:01 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:By that logic, the German state is a successor of the Romans as well...
HRE V. Byzantium, round two, coming up!


Well, Turkey got it by conquering Roman land but tolerating Roman peoples... Germany just kinda thought it would be fun...


Strange, wonder where they went...
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:02 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:By that logic, the German state is a successor of the Romans as well...
HRE V. Byzantium, round two, coming up!


Well, Turkey got it by conquering Roman land but tolerating Roman peoples... Germany just kinda thought it would be fun...

Eh, the Pope did technically give Charlemagne the go-ahead to be the new Emperor of Rome, so there is some legitimacy to the claim. About as legitimate as the Orthodox Patrician doing the same to Mehmet.

Maybe we could have Erdogan and Merkel duke it out in the arena to see whose claim is more legitimate?
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Postby Whitemore » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:03 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Well, Turkey got it by conquering Roman land but tolerating Roman peoples... Germany just kinda thought it would be fun...

Eh, the Pope did technically give Charlemagne the go-ahead to be the new Emperor of Rome, so there is some legitimacy to the claim. About as legitimate as the Orthodox Patrician doing the same to Mehmet.

Maybe we could have Erdogan and Merkel duke it out in the arena to see whose claim is more legitimate?


Let's not, we could end up seeing two world leaders dying of a stroke on the ground after trying to beat each other up.
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:04 pm

Great Mann wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Two people who think it's funny. Study some geography lesson.
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We don’t speak Turkish. It’s common courtesy to post things in English, as it is an English-speaking website generally.

Image, doesn’t count. Turkposter remains polite
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Postby Great Mann » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:05 pm

Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:
Great Mann wrote:
We don’t speak Turkish. It’s common courtesy to post things in English, as it is an English-speaking website generally.

Image, doesn’t count. Turkposter remains polite


Uh-huh... alright, I suppose.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:06 pm

Great Mann wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Well, Turkey got it by conquering Roman land but tolerating Roman peoples... Germany just kinda thought it would be fun...


Strange, wonder where they went...


Assimilation, mostly.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:07 pm

Whitemore wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:Eh, the Pope did technically give Charlemagne the go-ahead to be the new Emperor of Rome, so there is some legitimacy to the claim. About as legitimate as the Orthodox Patrician doing the same to Mehmet.

Maybe we could have Erdogan and Merkel duke it out in the arena to see whose claim is more legitimate?


Let's not, we could end up seeing two world leaders dying of a stroke on the ground after trying to beat each other up.


:rofl:
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Postby Great Mann » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:08 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Great Mann wrote:
Strange, wonder where they went...


Assimilation, mostly.


Yes, “““assimilation”””.
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Postby Whitemore » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:09 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
Let's not, we could end up seeing two world leaders dying of a stroke on the ground after trying to beat each other up.


:rofl:


I mean, I think it's reasonable right?? They are both really old!
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Postby Great Mann » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:12 pm

Whitemore wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:Eh, the Pope did technically give Charlemagne the go-ahead to be the new Emperor of Rome, so there is some legitimacy to the claim. About as legitimate as the Orthodox Patrician doing the same to Mehmet.

Maybe we could have Erdogan and Merkel duke it out in the arena to see whose claim is more legitimate?


Let's not, we could end up seeing two world leaders dying of a stroke on the ground after trying to beat each other up.


It’d be more appropriate to pit the claimants to the respective thrones against one another. Of course, I’d give the German a gun.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:13 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Well, Turkey got it by conquering Roman land but tolerating Roman peoples... Germany just kinda thought it would be fun...

Eh, the Pope did technically give Charlemagne the go-ahead to be the new Emperor of Rome, so there is some legitimacy to the claim. About as legitimate as the Orthodox Patrician doing the same to Mehmet.

Maybe we could have Erdogan and Merkel duke it out in the arena to see whose claim is more legitimate?

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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:14 pm

Great Mann wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Assimilation, mostly.


Yes, “““assimilation”””.


Well, yeah, actually. Refugees and conquered peoples of all faiths and ethnicities generally just, became Turkified. Which is sad. Turkey could be so much more diverse.
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Postby Great Mann » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:16 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:Eh, the Pope did technically give Charlemagne the go-ahead to be the new Emperor of Rome, so there is some legitimacy to the claim. About as legitimate as the Orthodox Patrician doing the same to Mehmet.

Maybe we could have Erdogan and Merkel duke it out in the arena to see whose claim is more legitimate?

Don’t forget Putin. Moscow is after all the Third Rome


As much as I hate to admit it, Russia is the only candidate I’d argue for. The Eastern Roman Empire was a direct continuation of the Roman Empire, and it was dissolved by the Ottoman scourge, which renders the Byzantine throne useless to the Spaniards. Thus bloodline is the most valid continuation, therefore Russia is the Third Rome. I hate it, though. Almost as much as I despise Turkey in cases.
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Postby Whitemore » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:16 pm

Great Mann wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
Let's not, we could end up seeing two world leaders dying of a stroke on the ground after trying to beat each other up.


It’d be more appropriate to pit the claimants to the respective thrones against one another. Of course, I’d give the German a gun.


That would be much more interesting.
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