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Posted: **Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:47 pm**

UK Politics Thread XIII: The Brexit Ship Departs

A gray day, and the gulls are gone.
Visor of mist o'er the sun is drawn.
The cordage creaks and the sails all strain,
The deck is drenched with the rushing rain,
The waves leap strong at the struggling keel,
And the ship rides madly with plunge and reel.
But the sailors shout as they haul away,
And merrily sing, for it's naught care they
For the wind that screams on the lee,
Or a gray day out at sea.

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Posted: **Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:49 pm**

First.

On a more serious note, polling has now indicated that the Tories and Labour are tied.

Posted: **Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:52 pm**

First...American on the thread, hi.

Posted: **Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:52 pm**

No the UK won’t rejoin the EU because it won’t exist

Posted: **Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:29 pm**

Agarntrop wrote:First.

On a more serious note, polling has now indicated that the Tories and Labour are tied.

Opinium's poll is unusually high for Labour, we need way more data before we can confidently say that they're now tied.

Posted: **Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:47 pm**

Agarntrop wrote:First.

On a more serious note, polling has now indicated that the Tories and Labour are tied.

Should be 20 points ahead, etc.

Posted: **Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:32 pm**

Kavagrad wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:First.

On a more serious note, polling has now indicated that the Tories and Labour are tied.

Should be 20 points ahead, etc.

the fact of the matter is that kier starmer would already be prime minister with 400 seats if we had listened to the enlightened centrists and shot jeremy corbyn out of a cannon (with a parachute of course) to libya and the sooner the labour left stops denying this and buy the damn cannon the better

Posted: **Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:42 pm**

Thermodolia wrote:No the UK won’t rejoin the EU because it won’t exist

Which won't exist - the UK or the EU? The UK looks much more likely to break up than the EU.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:56 am**

Souseiseki wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Should be 20 points ahead, etc.

the fact of the matter is that kier starmer would already be prime minister with 400 seats if we had listened to the enlightened centrists and shot jeremy corbyn out of a cannon (with a parachute of course) to libya and the sooner the labour left stops denying this and buy the damn cannon the better

This is ironic right?

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:10 am**

Thermodolia wrote:No the UK won’t rejoin the EU because it won’t exist

The EU is a SCAM, set up by the GOVERNMENT.

_/s

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:21 am**

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No the UK won’t rejoin the EU because it won’t exist

Which won't exist - the UK or the EU? The UK looks much more likely to break up than the EU.

The UK won’t

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:30 am**

We've had the snooper's charter, now there's the Nimby/road rage/Karen charter

I don't envy the policeman who is tasked with sifting through the videos; having to sit through things titled 'Crazy bikers create chaos in built-up area!!1!' only to realise that it's yet another video showing a couple of motorcyclists conducting some perfectly reasonable & legitimate filtering.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:27 am**

Back in the early 2000s I spent a lot of time cataloguing grey literature with titles like Further Education 2020: A Vision, Britain 2020: A Vision, Youth Work 2020: A Vision. Pretty much every quango, ngo, charity, government department, and lobbying group was setting out its blue sky thinking of what their area of interest was going to be like in the future, and to my amusement they all hit on the same play on words for the title - 2020 vision, geddit. Funny how blue sky thinkers run on the same fixed track.

I rather wish I'd kept some of them to laugh at how different 2020 has actually turned out.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:18 am**

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Back in the early 2000s I spent a lot of time cataloguing grey literature with titles like Further Education 2020: A Vision, Britain 2020: A Vision, Youth Work 2020: A Vision. Pretty much every quango, ngo, charity, government department, and lobbying group was setting out its blue sky thinking of what their area of interest was going to be like in the future, and to my amusement they all hit on the same play on words for the title - 2020 vision, geddit. Funny how blue sky thinkers run on the same fixed track.

I rather wish I'd kept some of them to laugh at how different 2020 has actually turned out.

imagine if you were a time traveler from the 2000s that got punted forward to 2020 lol

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:35 am**

Souseiseki wrote:imagine if you were a time traveler from the 2000s that got punted forward to 2020 lol

I think you'd just end up hugging your knees cowering in the corner because of the tidal wave of shit you'd need to grasp at once: 9/11, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, terror attacks, memes, social media, smartphones, climate change, Brexit, Trump, Coronavirus, social distancing, everyone wearing masks, the recession, the deaths of various celebrities...

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:45 am**

Ah, that new thread smell.

Of course, we must debate the biggest issues of them all. Like, say, should Greggs be nationalised?

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:51 am**

Chan Island wrote:Ah, that new thread smell.

Of course, we must debate the biggest issues of them all. Like, say, should Greggs be nationalised?

I think it's time to seize the means of sausage rolls and organise Greggs into worker co-ops

(Ok I'll head out)

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:45 am**

Chan Island wrote:Ah, that new thread smell.

Of course, we must debate the biggest issues of them all. Like, say, should Greggs be nationalised?

Of course not. Greggs must become a luxury only available to those lucky enough to be blessed by the steak bake god.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:58 am**

Missed the end of the last thread, bleh. Anything exciting happen? Any bans or warnings

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:01 am**

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Missed the end of the last thread, bleh. Anything exciting happen? Any bans or warnings

No, the thread was clean for a couple of weeks. Shock horror.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:03 am**

The New California Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Missed the end of the last thread, bleh. Anything exciting happen? Any bans or warnings

No, the thread was clean for a couple of weeks. Shock horror.

Ghastly.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:05 am**

The New California Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Missed the end of the last thread, bleh. Anything exciting happen? Any bans or warnings

No, the thread was clean for a couple of weeks. Shock horror.

Why do we even bother?

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:19 am**

Ah that new thread smell. Like a country home log fire. Just going to sit here and drink my coffee and think about the state of Britain. This is fine.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:20 am**

The UK? Is that still a thing?

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:25 am**

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18685 ... ce/?ref=ar

In response Wilson wrote that he did not dispute that the deficit – as estimated within the UK model – is higher than that in other small countries which Scotland would wish to emulate under independence.

But he added: “The GERS assessment reflects a structural problem with the UK: it is one of the most unequal countries in the developed world. Every region and nation outside the southeast and east runs a large deficit on this measure.

“This is not cause for celebration but a clear sign that the UK is not working for most of the country.”

whoopsie haha

Ifreann wrote:The UK? Is that still a thing?

not on track to fall apart until 2024