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by The Nihilistic view » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:02 am
by Philjia » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:05 am
by The Nihilistic view » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:13 am
Philjia wrote:One off windfall tax on the name Rupert.
by The Nihilistic view » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:18 am
The Blaatschapen wrote:The Nihilistic view wrote:
Now we are getting into the relms of how does a country become official? Taiwan? Palestine? If its not recognised does that mean it doesn't exist? Incidentally I wish Britain says was how the world worked.
No this is the principle of she thinks therefore she is. If she wanted to join IS that can be her own self appointed nationality and we can cease to call her British. Everyone's a winner!
The UK does decide on a regular basis which countries to recognize and which not, that's an individual country's prerogative. The government and the courts cannot both claim that IS is not a state, and also accepting that certain people have the nationality of said entity. Which is my point.
Personally I would say that IS is not recognized, but that also means that her claim of her nationality of IS doesn't hold up.
by The Blaatschapen » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:15 am
The Nihilistic view wrote:The Blaatschapen wrote:
The UK does decide on a regular basis which countries to recognize and which not, that's an individual country's prerogative. The government and the courts cannot both claim that IS is not a state, and also accepting that certain people have the nationality of said entity. Which is my point.
Personally I would say that IS is not recognized, but that also means that her claim of her nationality of IS doesn't hold up.
You know Rockall? Yeah we split that off from the UK and use it essentially as a shell country to give nationality to people we don't want to be British anymore.
by The Nihilistic view » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:42 am
by SD_Film Artists » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:29 am
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:
'something they don't like'- shameless, unrepentant treason. Being a bit coy aren't we?
If Begum is guilty of treason then put her on trial on it. Removing the citizenship of someone born here and stranding them in a prisoner of war camp with no recourse to appeal and no access to a fair hearing is not just, regardless of what someone has done.
by Ifreann » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:41 am
SD_Film Artists wrote:The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:If Begum is guilty of treason then put her on trial on it. Removing the citizenship of someone born here and stranding them in a prisoner of war camp with no recourse to appeal and no access to a fair hearing is not just, regardless of what someone has done.
Except that she's not pleading innocence so at best this is an exercise in pedantry and a very expensive and time consuming one at that. She's basically applying for asylum on the worst grounds. If you're pro-immigration then how about touting someone who actually likes this county?
by The Huskar Social Union » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:43 am
by SD_Film Artists » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:49 am
Ifreann wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:
Except that she's not pleading innocence so at best this is an exercise in pedantry and a very expensive and time consuming one at that. She's basically applying for asylum on the worst grounds. If you're pro-immigration then how about touting someone who actually likes this county?
Given that she's not on trial I would think that she's not entering any kind of plea.
by Thermodolia » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:55 am
by Ifreann » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:57 am
But of course this isn't *that* kind of law case; it was a turn of phrase rather than literally pleading guilty or innocent and I think you know that.
by The Nihilistic view » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:09 am
by The Nihilistic view » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:13 am
by The Blaatschapen » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:21 am
The Nihilistic view wrote:I happen to think it's not malicious they are just uneducated.
by The Huskar Social Union » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:32 am
by SD_Film Artists » Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:22 pm
But of course this isn't *that* kind of law case; it was a turn of phrase rather than literally pleading guilty or innocent and I think you know that.
If it's just a turn of phrase then it's an irrelevant point.
by The Nihilistic view » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:08 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:40 am
by The New California Republic » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:50 am
The Blaatschapen wrote:What does being British mean? What is British culture?
And what is English culture? And Scottish? And how does these relate to British culture?
I am trying to wrap my head around the superset nationality/culture concept, and it's tough to grasp.
I am not looking for an answer to what is Britain from a state point of view. I am well aware of the GB, its constituent countries, etc. This is about cultural perspectives.
by The Huskar Social Union » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:06 am
by Philjia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:16 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Labour seemingly doing quite well in the polls for the upcoming Welsh Election
by Ifreann » Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:50 am
If it's just a turn of phrase then it's an irrelevant point.
As above, regardless of whether you think I'm being literal or not it does kind of matter that her own lawyers aren't even trying to deny the IS thing. In case you are wanting for context, The Notorious Mad Jack was talking about the issue of treason and Begum's relation to it. I responded on that point.
by The Archregimancy » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:04 am
The Nihilistic view wrote:Didn't want to clutter the mod reports with this directly with posts potentially still cropping up. But much appreciation for this game of wack-a-mole you have been playing with this insalubrious indervidual/s Arch.
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