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Who would you / will you vote for in the Scottish Parliament election?

SNP
24
26%
Conservative Party
15
16%
Labour Party
18
20%
Liberal Democrats
11
12%
Scottish Greens
8
9%
Mispronounced Alba Party
2
2%
Reform UK
7
8%
Other
7
8%
 
Total votes : 92

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:11 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A suspicious package has been sent to the Oxford-Astra Zeneca vaccine production plant in Wrexham.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55822838

If it does turn out to be anti-vaxxers I hope they get tried for terrorism.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:18 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A suspicious package has been sent to the Oxford-Astra Zeneca vaccine production plant in Wrexham.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55822838

If it does turn out to be anti-vaxxers I hope they get tried for terrorism.

Terrorism charges would seem appropriate.

Whoever did it, I hope they throw the book at them.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:21 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A suspicious package has been sent to the Oxford-Astra Zeneca vaccine production plant in Wrexham.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55822838

If it does turn out to be anti-vaxxers I hope they get tried for terrorism.

Terrorism charges would seem appropriate.

Whoever did it, I hope they throw the book at them.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:31 am

Michael Stone has been released on parole.

He killed three people at the Milltown Cemetery attack in 1988 (as well as three other murders unrelated to the attack), was released under the GFA in 2000, then in 2006 tried to enter Stormont with explosives and an Axe to murder Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams and was imprisoned again.

Families of the ones he killed arnt too happy if you could guess. I wonder if he plans on taking a stroll up to Stormont again in the near future to try and murder some other political leaders.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:51 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Michael Stone has been released on parole.

He killed three people at the Milltown Cemetery attack in 1988 (as well as three other murders unrelated to the attack), was released under the GFA in 2000, then in 2006 tried to enter Stormont with explosives and an Axe to murder Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams and was imprisoned again.

Families of the ones he killed arnt too happy if you could guess. I wonder if he plans on taking a stroll up to Stormont again in the near future to try and murder some other political leaders.


How is he allowed to walk freely so easily? When he was clearly unrepentant the first time?

I feel like this is very irresponsible.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:53 am

Salus Maior wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Michael Stone has been released on parole.

He killed three people at the Milltown Cemetery attack in 1988 (as well as three other murders unrelated to the attack), was released under the GFA in 2000, then in 2006 tried to enter Stormont with explosives and an Axe to murder Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams and was imprisoned again.

Families of the ones he killed arnt too happy if you could guess. I wonder if he plans on taking a stroll up to Stormont again in the near future to try and murder some other political leaders.


How is he allowed to walk freely so easily? When he was clearly unrepentant the first time?

I feel like this is very irresponsible.

Maybe he has the gift of the gab, and pulled the wool over the eyes of the parole commissioners.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:55 am

Salus Maior wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Michael Stone has been released on parole.

He killed three people at the Milltown Cemetery attack in 1988 (as well as three other murders unrelated to the attack), was released under the GFA in 2000, then in 2006 tried to enter Stormont with explosives and an Axe to murder Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams and was imprisoned again.

Families of the ones he killed arnt too happy if you could guess. I wonder if he plans on taking a stroll up to Stormont again in the near future to try and murder some other political leaders.


How is he allowed to walk freely so easily? When he was clearly unrepentant the first time?

I feel like this is very irresponsible.

Last year a legal challenge to prevent him from applying for early release was dismissed by the court of appeals and i guess got parole as a result
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:57 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:How is he allowed to walk freely so easily? When he was clearly unrepentant the first time?

I feel like this is very irresponsible.

Last year a legal challenge to prevent him from applying for early release was dismissed by the court of appeals and i guess got parole as a result

Even so, the parole commissioners could have still blocked it on the grounds that he is a persistent and dangerous offender who poses a credible risk to the public.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:03 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
How is he allowed to walk freely so easily? When he was clearly unrepentant the first time?

I feel like this is very irresponsible.

Last year a legal challenge to prevent him from applying for early release was dismissed by the court of appeals and i guess got parole as a result


Do the legal officials involved wear pants on their heads by any chance?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:04 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Last year a legal challenge to prevent him from applying for early release was dismissed by the court of appeals and i guess got parole as a result

Even so, the parole commissioners could have still blocked it on the grounds that he is a persistent and dangerous offender who poses a credible risk to the public.

Now if we wana go into conspiracy theory territory ive seen people making comments that it is convenient he gets released a few days after Loyalists meet with NI officials to voice their "discontent" over brexit.
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Postby Hirota » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:03 am

BBC Wales zoom session demonstrates why MP's are now inexplicably using blank meeting rooms with a flag for colour. Unless someone wants to see Priti Patels bookcase accessories?

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A suspicious package has been sent to the Oxford-Astra Zeneca vaccine production plant in Wrexham.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55822838

If it does turn out to be anti-vaxxers I hope they get tried for terrorism.
Who cares, it's only obviously 8% effective for older people right? Right? ;)

It's just one reason why the Germans are obviously so noble in preventing older people around the world from getting these useless vaccines and selflessly planning to block exports of an obviously useless vaccine the EU hasn't even approved yet.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:06 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:TUV's Allister issues unionist rallying call to 'disrupt' Brexit protocol and 'prevent Union's destruction'

UUP leader accuses PM of 'damaging the Union'

Hmmmm what happened guys? Did you not win the way you wanted? Maybe you realise you backed the wrong horse and completely fucked yourselves?


Didn't the UUP advocate for voting "Remain"?

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:07 am

Hirota wrote:BBC Wales zoom session demonstrates why MP's are now inexplicably using blank meeting rooms with a flag for colour. Unless someone wants to see Priti Patels bookcase accessories?

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:11 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:TUV's Allister issues unionist rallying call to 'disrupt' Brexit protocol and 'prevent Union's destruction'

UUP leader accuses PM of 'damaging the Union'

Hmmmm what happened guys? Did you not win the way you wanted? Maybe you realise you backed the wrong horse and completely fucked yourselves?


Didn't the UUP advocate for voting "Remain"?

They did at first, then shifted over to supporting leave after the referendum. A lot of its high profile members such as Tom Elliot supported leaving in the first place too.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:12 am

Hirota wrote:BBC Wales zoom session demonstrates why MP's are now inexplicably using blank meeting rooms with a flag for colour. Unless someone wants to see Priti Patels bookcase accessories?

I assume that Priti Patel's bookshelves are full of history books about the Irish Famine, used for the same purpose as Yvette Amos' bookshelf accessory.
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Postby Philjia » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:24 am

Hirota wrote:BBC Wales zoom session demonstrates why MP's are now inexplicably using blank meeting rooms with a flag for colour. Unless someone wants to see Priti Patels bookcase accessories?

Manacles and thumbscrews?
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:41 am

It's generally not custom to keep people in past 15 years, which is what Stone is served, for an offense that wasn't actually carried out.
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Postby Hirota » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:49 am

Philjia wrote:
Hirota wrote:BBC Wales zoom session demonstrates why MP's are now inexplicably using blank meeting rooms with a flag for colour. Unless someone wants to see Priti Patels bookcase accessories?

Manacles and thumbscrews?
Riding crops, most likely.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:03 am

Hirota wrote:
Philjia wrote:Manacles and thumbscrews?
Riding crops, most likely.

Oh god no i dont wana watch that again

Bad! Bad Hirota!
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:56 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55817385

UK Government backs birth control for grey squirrels.


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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:22 pm

So West Yorkshire are considering a massive tram system, a project that will take 10-15 years to complete.

This is glorious.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:22 pm

Celritannia wrote:So West Yorkshire are considering a massive tram system, a project that will take 10-15 years to complete.

This is glorious.

Every Yorkie A Tram.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:29 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Celritannia wrote:So West Yorkshire are considering a massive tram system, a project that will take 10-15 years to complete.

This is glorious.

Every Yorkie A Tram.


YES!

Here is a report on it though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-55822915
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:30 pm

Celritannia wrote:So West Yorkshire are considering a massive tram system, a project that will take 10-15 years to complete.

This is glorious.

I would love it, but honestly I am cynical considering 99.99% of projects of these kind end up being whittled down and eventually dumped.

I wish we could be like Germany and actually get shit done. In Germany every major city has trams, hell most even have rapid transit too.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:33 pm

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Celritannia wrote:So West Yorkshire are considering a massive tram system, a project that will take 10-15 years to complete.

This is glorious.

I would love it, but honestly I am cynical considering 99.99% of projects of these kind end up being whittled down and eventually dumped.

I wish we could be like Germany and actually get shit done. In Germany every major city has trams, hell most even have rapid transit too.


I wish we were too.
Trams are amazing. Manchester and Sheffield have a good system.

West Yorkshire was supposed to have one back in 2005 but that went bust.

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