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Who would you / will you vote for in the Scottish Parliament election?

SNP
24
26%
Conservative Party
15
16%
Labour Party
18
20%
Liberal Democrats
11
12%
Scottish Greens
8
9%
Mispronounced Alba Party
2
2%
Reform UK
7
8%
Other
7
8%
 
Total votes : 92

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:12 am

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:"It's bad because in other countries it's different." Lol wut. UK laws apply to police officers in the UK, so mentioning what the speed limits are in other countries as if it's relevant is just stupid.

The police officers in this case broke that specific law when they were meant to be enforcing it. The ruling of gross misconduct is entirely justified.


I didn't say that UK police officers should enforce different countries speed limits. Are you even reading my post or not even bothering?

Your post was extremely thin on the whole content aspect, so why you even mentioned speed limits in other countries was odd, hence why I was pointing out why it isn't really relevant to this case.

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:The problem here is that a police officer lost his job because he went just 10mph over what he would get caught out by, and if it was a normal civilian, it would just be a minor fine. Moreover, the press and police report proclaim this to be a tragedy, whereas the real tragedy is that he wouldn't even be fined across the vast majority of Europe for travelling at 89mph, and in most relevant large countries, he would be entirely within the speed limit.

Again though who gives a shit what the speed limit is in other countries? It's not relevant. So again the fact you are treating it as if it's some really important point in relation to this case is just odd.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:13 am

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
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So a Police officer serving with a road safety unit TWOCs a car and goes speeding off, and you think he should face no consequences for this behaviour because you think the speed limit is too low?


I don't think people's private lives should be influenced by the power of media and journalism, no.


So the Police Service disciplining a uniformed officer for dangerous and illegal conduct while on duty is "private lives should be influenced by the power of media and journalism"?
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:14 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
The only tragedy here is that this is a country where 89mph is not just considered high speed, but career ending.

85-90mph is the actual speed limit in the vast majority of European countries.

The fact that this is happening under a party which is presumably against nanny stateism is even worse.


The boys in blue going for a bit of a joy ride in somebody else's car isn't the worst thing? :rofl:


I don't know man, if your main problem with crime in the country is somebody going 8-9mph above a fine on an empty motorway, then we might as well declare the nation a problemless paradise.

The irony is that the force is probably one of the many included in Boris' plan to recruit one more officer for every 5 existing ones. Wasting a massive amount of training money.
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:15 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:

I didn't say that UK police officers should enforce different countries speed limits. Are you even reading my post or not even bothering?

Your post was extremely thin on the whole content aspect, so why you even mentioned speed limits in other countries was odd, hence why I was pointing out why it isn't really relevant to this case.

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:The problem here is that a police officer lost his job because he went just 10mph over what he would get caught out by, and if it was a normal civilian, it would just be a minor fine. Moreover, the press and police report proclaim this to be a tragedy, whereas the real tragedy is that he wouldn't even be fined across the vast majority of Europe for travelling at 89mph, and in most relevant large countries, he would be entirely within the speed limit.

Again though who gives a shit what the speed limit is in other countries? It's not relevant. So again the fact you are treating it as if it's some really important point in relation to this case is just odd.


Why are other people supposed to give a shit that other countries are republics or that other countries have lower inequality and poverty?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:15 am

Salus Maior wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
It has now been officially confirmed that the funeral will in fact will comply with all Covid restrictions, meaning only 30 people will attend and facemasks will be worn. I am pleasantly surprised.

Oh, and Megan will not be one of those 30.


Well, she did want out of the Royal family, didn't she?

Would she even want to be there?


One might think this would be the perfect occasion to come along and try and fix the situation. Apparently not.
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
I don't think people's private lives should be influenced by the power of media and journalism, no.


So the Police Service disciplining a uniformed officer for dangerous and illegal conduct while on duty is "private lives should be influenced by the power of media and journalism"?


Yeah, because it went to the media before it went to the police force.

You don't actually read any of the links you send, do you?
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:17 am

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:Why are other people supposed to give a shit that other countries are republics or that other countries have lower inequality and poverty?

Come back to me when there is a case that's perfectly analogous to what we have been discussing that involves that, otherwise this is just getting thrown in the bin as being utterly irrelevant and non-equivalent nonsense.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:19 am

I dont think police should be fucking around with seized vehicles. Also they recorded it themselves and shared it with co-workers like morons.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:21 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I dont think police should be fucking around with seized vehicles. Also they recorded it themselves and shared it with co-workers like morons.

Using a car they had just seized to break the exact law they were explicitly tasked with enforcing that day is pretty fucking bad.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:22 am

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
The boys in blue going for a bit of a joy ride in somebody else's car isn't the worst thing? :rofl:


I don't know man, if your main problem with crime in the country is somebody going 8-9mph above a fine on an empty motorway, then we might as well declare the nation a problemless paradise.

The irony is that the force is probably one of the many included in Boris' plan to recruit one more officer for every 5 existing ones. Wasting a massive amount of training money.


The speed is irrelevant. Even keeping to the speedlimit abusing your powers to drive somebody's car because you want to should be a sackable offence.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:23 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I dont think police should be fucking around with seized vehicles. Also they recorded it themselves and shared it with co-workers like morons.

Using a car they had just seized to break the exact law they were explicitly tasked with enforcing that day is pretty fucking bad.

Yeah thats just the icing on the cake for these dipshits.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:31 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I dont think police should be fucking around with seized vehicles. Also they recorded it themselves and shared it with co-workers like morons.

Using a car they had just seized to break the exact law they were explicitly tasked with enforcing that day is pretty fucking bad.


What's really bad is that they filmed themselves doing it and then shared the footage. Should be sacked for gross stupidity for that alone.

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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:So, where was the Met enforcing COVID rules against the vigil outside Buckingham Palace like they did in Clapham?

Why don't you go ask them?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:34 pm

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:
Two police officers have been sacked after filming themselves breaking the speed limit at 89 mph in a seized high-performance vehicle.

Devon and Cornwall Police officers PC Shaun Pearce and PC Daniel Pike shared the video with colleagues on WhatsApp.

They were taking part in road safety campaign, which included preventing speeding, at the time.

A disciplinary hearing on Thursday found the officers had committed gross misconduct and should be dismissed.

They are now banned from working for the police in England and Wales.

PC Pearce and PC Pike were on road safety duty as part of the 'Fatal Five' campaign - which includes targeting speeding drivers - when the incident happened on 16 January 2019 , the hearing heard.

The officers had seized the vehicle, and while waiting for a recovery vehicle to arrive, drove it without the owner's permission reaching speeds up to 89 mph over 3.1 miles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-56698186

Oh the irony.


The only tragedy here is that this is a country where 89mph is not just considered high speed, but career ending.

85-90mph is the actual speed limit in the vast majority of European countries.

The fact that this is happening under a party which is presumably against nanny stateism is even worse.

I would have thought that the issue was not the speed itself, but rather that two officers who were supposed to be enforcing road safety decided to take a seized car for a joyride and were gunning it down the road like a pair of boy racers, showing off for their mates. Be a bit like the cops busting a house party and then filming themselves downing all the seized cans and pills at a sesh back at the station.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:41 pm

Besides, we voted for Brexit to escape from the tyranny of European standardised speed limits.
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Postby Ainland » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:25 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
It has now been officially confirmed that the funeral will in fact will comply with all Covid restrictions, meaning only 30 people will attend and facemasks will be worn. I am pleasantly surprised.

Oh, and Megan will not be one of those 30.


Well, she did want out of the Royal family, didn't she?

Would she even want to be there?

She made every effort to travel to the UK, but has been medically advised not to do so due to her pregnancy. It's not appropriate to try to stir up drama and gossip over this. The media are respecting that. I hope the same can be said for the people of the internet.

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Postby Crysuko » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:38 pm

so here's a curveball, a friend of mine inherited 4 acres of land in Spain, and intends to turn it into a farming commune. in a couple years, i'm outta here.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:40 pm

Crysuko wrote:so here's a curveball, a friend of mine inherited 4 acres of land in Spain, and intends to turn it into a farming commune. in a couple years, i'm outta here.

I mean...I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread or the rest of us, but...
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:10 pm

You can grow hemp in Spain.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:10 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:You can grow hemp in Spain.

Disregard Britain, Acquire Hemp Profits.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:12 pm

So Keir did an interview with Unilad apparently.


I think Corbyn did something like this but i cant remember.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:17 pm

Crysuko wrote:so here's a curveball, a friend of mine inherited 4 acres of land in Spain, and intends to turn it into a farming commune. in a couple years, i'm outta here.

It's good that you're already making preparations for the coming collapse of civilisation.

Personally my ten year plan involves taking some kind of agricultural course, then moving to a croft in Argyll with a shotgun and a couple of Dobermanns.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:19 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:so here's a curveball, a friend of mine inherited 4 acres of land in Spain, and intends to turn it into a farming commune. in a couple years, i'm outta here.

It's good that you're already making preparations for the coming collapse of civilisation.

Personally my ten year plan involves taking some kind of agricultural course, then moving to a croft in Argyll with a shotgun and a couple of Dobermanns.

I plan to carve out my own state in West Belfast and become the Tyrant of the Falls Road.

I shall last exactly 7.5 seconds before someone hits me.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:19 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:so here's a curveball, a friend of mine inherited 4 acres of land in Spain, and intends to turn it into a farming commune. in a couple years, i'm outta here.

It's good that you're already making preparations for the coming collapse of civilisation.

Personally my ten year plan involves taking some kind of agricultural course, then moving to a croft in Argyll with a shotgun and a couple of Dobermanns.


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