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UK's 'new Brexit trade envoy' ex-Australian PM Tony Abbott says more elderly Covid patients should be allowed to die by 'letting nature take its course'

can't believe we actually onboarded this prick

U turn over lockdown easing

"Round like a circle in a spiral
Like a Tory policy..."

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
I mean to handle the "rare in the profession" bit, it's probably because people don't really go for punch-down humour any more. Thank god.

Because punching-up is always absolutely okay and has no bad implications ever? Call me the humour police, but punching is generally frowned upon.

So we shouldn't be allowed to make jokes about those holding the power in society?

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:U turn over lockdown easing

"Round like a circle in a spiral
Like a Tory policy..."

The indications weeks ago was that we'd reached the limit of easing that could be achieved without a vaccine. Why there was even a push to carry on with it is nonsensical.

The New California Republic wrote:

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:U turn over lockdown easing

"Round like a circle in a spiral
Like a Tory policy..."

The indications weeks ago was that we'd reached the limit of easing that could be achieved without a vaccine. Why there was even a push to carry on with it is nonsensical.

Yeah it was pretty obvious they were making a bad decision, but they pressed ahead with it, then had to u turn again. Speaks of how shambolic this government is.

Souseiseki wrote:

UK's 'new Brexit trade envoy' ex-Australian PM Tony Abbott says more elderly Covid patients should be allowed to die by 'letting nature take its course'

can't believe we actually onboarded this prick

Britain used to be a net exporter of shit politicians named Tony.

Vassenor wrote:

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Because punching-up is always absolutely okay and has no bad implications ever? Call me the humour police, but punching is generally frowned upon.

So we shouldn't be allowed to make jokes about those holding the power in society?

We should be allowed to make jokes about everyone or no-one. Personally I prefer the latter. The BBC should introduce a fleet of humour-detecting vans with tank guns.

Ifreann wrote:

Souseiseki wrote:
can't believe we actually onboarded this prick

Britain used to be a net exporter of shit politicians named Tony.

Another valuable industry destroyed by the Tories. Does their cruelty know no end?!

Souseiseki wrote:

UK's 'new Brexit trade envoy' ex-Australian PM Tony Abbott says more elderly Covid patients should be allowed to die by 'letting nature take its course'

can't believe we actually onboarded this prick

It's a pity there's not a British ideological political counterpart to Tony Abbot, leading the Conservative Party.
He is of course referring to the dementia patients who are in the final stages of the disease, have become so mentally and physically infirm they're completely dependent on others and are no longer capable of quality of life. Covid is speeding up a process which is horribly protracted by medical intervention, and I know because I've seen it happen.

Ifreann wrote:

Souseiseki wrote:
can't believe we actually onboarded this prick

Britain used to be a net exporter of shit politicians named Tony.

I remember a time where Britain could choose between Tory or Tony.

State of Turelisa wrote:

Souseiseki wrote:
can't believe we actually onboarded this prick

It's a pity there's not a British ideological political counterpart to Tony Abbot, leading the Conservative Party.
He is of course referring to the dementia patients who are in the final stages of the disease, have become so mentally and physically infirm they're completely dependent on others and are no longer capable of quality of life. Covid is speeding up a process which is horribly protracted by medical intervention, and I know because I've seen it happen.

I dunno, that still sounds pretty T4.

Ifreann wrote:

Souseiseki wrote:
can't believe we actually onboarded this prick

Britain used to be a net exporter of shit politicians named Tony.

British manufacturing of politicians has been in terminal decline since 1990

Souseiseki wrote:

UK's 'new Brexit trade envoy' ex-Australian PM Tony Abbott says more elderly Covid patients should be allowed to die by 'letting nature take its course'

can't believe we actually onboarded this prick

Well because of leaving the EU the UK can no longer import the equipment needed to keep them alive.

Chan Island wrote:

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Because punching-up is always absolutely okay and has no bad implications ever? Call me the humour police, but punching is generally frowned upon.

"Punching" has a slightly separate meaning in comedy and has done for a long time now. I suspect you're thinking more of that time Richard Spencer ate a knuckle sandwich.

I'm aware of what punching refers to in comedy. Still, I find it distasteful to disparage an identity or group, regardless of whether they're an "acceptable target".

The Blaatschapen wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Britain used to be a net exporter of shit politicians named Tony.

I remember a time where Britain could choose between Tory or Tony.

I read this as "Tony or Tony" and then as "Tory or Tory".

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:

Chan Island wrote:
"Punching" has a slightly separate meaning in comedy and has done for a long time now. I suspect you're thinking more of that time Richard Spencer ate a knuckle sandwich.

I'm aware of what punching refers to in comedy. Still, I find it distasteful to disparage an identity or group, regardless of whether they're an "acceptable target".

So its distasteful to satirise the government?

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:

The Blaatschapen wrote:
I remember a time where Britain could choose between Tory or Tony.

I read this as "Tony or Tony" and then as "Tory or Tory".

For some the choice between New Labour and Tory might as well have been Tory or Tory

Vassenor wrote:

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I'm aware of what punching refers to in comedy. Still, I find it distasteful to disparage an identity or group, regardless of whether they're an "acceptable target".

So its distasteful to satirise the government?

Don't be dense. Satirising the government is different from disparaging a whole demographic. That's what i'm talking about.

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
So its distasteful to satirise the government?

Don't be dense. Satirising the government is different from disparaging a whole demographic. That's what i'm talking about.

Letting poor people mock the rich is how you avoid the poor taking more direct measures. Take your pick.

Fartsniffage wrote:

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Don't be dense. Satirising the government is different from disparaging a whole demographic. That's what i'm talking about.

Letting poor people mock the rich is how you avoid the poor taking more direct measures. Take your pick.

*Happy communist noises* Very poor choice of words, tovarisch.

Fartsniffage wrote:Letting poor people mock the rich is how you avoid the poor taking more direct measures. Take your pick.

Yup. People tend to get rather antsy when they have no outlet to express dissatisfaction, even a cultural outlet.

The New California Republic wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:Letting poor people mock the rich is how you avoid the poor taking more direct measures. Take your pick.

Yup. People tend to get rather antsy when they have no outlet to express dissatisfaction, even a cultural outlet.

Seems to me the humour is already getting people antsy. How incendiary before it's a straight up call to war in joke form?

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Yup. People tend to get rather antsy when they have no outlet to express dissatisfaction, even a cultural outlet.

Seems to me the humour is already getting people antsy. How incendiary before it's a straight up call to war in joke form?

It's far better to have open discussions about it in the arts as it has a filtering effect to make it more palatable to people, it sublimates it and makes it far less incendiary; as if a truth is left unexpressed then it turns toxic.

The New California Republic wrote:

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Seems to me the humour is already getting people antsy. How incendiary before it's a straight up call to war in joke form?

It's far better to have open discussions about it in the arts as it has a filtering effect to make it more palatable to people, it sublimates it and makes it far less incendiary; as if a truth is left unexpressed then it turns toxic.

Fair enough. That said, if a joke has the potential to radicalize, i'd tread lightly.

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/senior-bb ... h-1.506092

Demonstrating yet again that very little good comes out of Twatter.