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Who would you / will you vote for in the Scottish Parliament election?

SNP
24
26%
Conservative Party
15
16%
Labour Party
18
20%
Liberal Democrats
11
12%
Scottish Greens
8
9%
Mispronounced Alba Party
2
2%
Reform UK
7
8%
Other
7
8%
 
Total votes : 92

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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:24 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:My Respects to Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth, God Save the King and Queen, God Bless the King and Queen, Rule Britannia - GMS.

I RP the real life based nation of NS Great Britain with Pride and Honor.

"God Save the King?" Which king would that be, exactly?


Hey, his heart is in the right place :P
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Postby Anglicora » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:27 pm

To answer the poll: I shall be voting for either All for Unity or the Abolish the Scottish Parliament Party in May!
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:25 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:


It's almost like the Loyalists aren't actually loyal to the Crown.

It's just a name, I guess.


Old Tyrannia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:My Respects to Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth, God Save the King and Queen, God Bless the King and Queen, Rule Britannia - GMS.

I RP the real life based nation of NS Great Britain with Pride and Honor.

"God Save the King?" Which king would that be, exactly?

Jerry Lawler?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:30 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:My Respects to Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth, God Save the King and Queen, God Bless the King and Queen, Rule Britannia - GMS.

I RP the real life based nation of NS Great Britain with Pride and Honor.

"God Save the King?" Which king would that be, exactly?

lol, good one, all Kings and Queens of Great Britain, I did post my respects to Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth, lol again - GMS.

I know My English Not Very Good, lol again.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:33 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:


It's almost like the Loyalists aren't actually loyal to the Crown.


What these young Protestants need is their Loyalist elders taking them to the woodshed. And they need to go after the drug dealers, gang bangers and white supremacists that are influencing these kids. The government should also get some after school programs going after there is a vaccine for children and teenagers.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:09 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:"God Save the King?" Which king would that be, exactly?

lol, good one, all Kings and Queens of Great Britain, I did post my respects to Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth, lol again - GMS.

I know My English Not Very Good, lol again.

Your heart may be in the right place, but now for a quick lesson in the UK monarchy.

Queen Elizabeth is the monarch -- single (and sadly bereaved). Prince Philip was never the King. He was the Duke of Edinburgh. This is due to a parliamentary quirk that means the husband of a reigning queen is called "prince consort" rather than "King". A man can only become King by inheriting the title.

There has not been a King of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth since Queen Elizabeth's father, King George VI.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:26 am

Today is the 23rd anniversary of the GFA.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:28 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, good one, all Kings and Queens of Great Britain, I did post my respects to Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth, lol again - GMS.

I know My English Not Very Good, lol again.

Your heart may be in the right place, but now for a quick lesson in the UK monarchy.

Queen Elizabeth is the monarch -- single (and sadly bereaved). Prince Philip was never the King. He was the Duke of Edinburgh. This is due to a parliamentary quirk that means the husband of a reigning queen is called "prince consort" rather than "King". A man can only become King by inheriting the title.

There has not been a King of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth since Queen Elizabeth's father, King George VI.

Thank You.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:28 am

Fartsniffage wrote:


It's almost like the Loyalists aren't actually loyal to the Crown.


They're like the trumpsters who were saying blue lives matter till they stormed the capitol.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:30 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
It's almost like the Loyalists aren't actually loyal to the Crown.


What these young Protestants need is their Loyalist elders taking them to the woodshed. And they need to go after the drug dealers, gang bangers and white supremacists that are influencing these kids. The government should also get some after school programs going after there is a vaccine for children and teenagers.


North, many of their loyalist elders aren't any better. They were involved in things like the UDA, UVF or red hand commandos and engaged in sectarian killing of Irish Catholics. Where do you think the kids learned all this anger from, caillou? Northern Ireland has been a cauldron of interethnic tension for a very long time, and the elders probably aren't helping considering many of them either actively were involved in anti-catholic terror organizations or supported said organizations.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:36 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
It's almost like the Loyalists aren't actually loyal to the Crown.


What these young Protestants need is their Loyalist elders taking them to the woodshed. And they need to go after the drug dealers, gang bangers and white supremacists that are influencing these kids. The government should also get some after school programs going after there is a vaccine for children and teenagers.

Their Elders are the ones encouraging this behaviour.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:38 am

So, where was the Met enforcing COVID rules against the vigil outside Buckingham Palace like they did in Clapham?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:44 am

Vassenor wrote:So, where was the Met enforcing COVID rules against the vigil outside Buckingham Palace like they did in Clapham?

This is different, because reasons.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:49 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So, where was the Met enforcing COVID rules against the vigil outside Buckingham Palace like they did in Clapham?

This is different, because reasons.


Oh right, I forgot that the virus only infects people when the government says it can, hence why all those rule-breaking VE Day parties were allowed.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:14 am

Two police officers have been sacked after filming themselves breaking the speed limit at 89 mph in a seized high-performance vehicle.

Devon and Cornwall Police officers PC Shaun Pearce and PC Daniel Pike shared the video with colleagues on WhatsApp.

They were taking part in road safety campaign, which included preventing speeding, at the time.

A disciplinary hearing on Thursday found the officers had committed gross misconduct and should be dismissed.

They are now banned from working for the police in England and Wales.

PC Pearce and PC Pike were on road safety duty as part of the 'Fatal Five' campaign - which includes targeting speeding drivers - when the incident happened on 16 January 2019 , the hearing heard.

The officers had seized the vehicle, and while waiting for a recovery vehicle to arrive, drove it without the owner's permission reaching speeds up to 89 mph over 3.1 miles.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:53 am

Vassenor wrote:So, where was the Met enforcing COVID rules against the vigil outside Buckingham Palace like they did in Clapham?


I guess royalism was more important than safety. The UK government clearly does not "listen to the science" when making political decisions.
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Postby Philjia » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:10 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
What these young Protestants need is their Loyalist elders taking them to the woodshed. And they need to go after the drug dealers, gang bangers and white supremacists that are influencing these kids. The government should also get some after school programs going after there is a vaccine for children and teenagers.

Their Elders are the ones encouraging this behaviour.

Look, they're also getting stuck in.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:14 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So, where was the Met enforcing COVID rules against the vigil outside Buckingham Palace like they did in Clapham?


I guess royalism was more important than safety. The UK government clearly does not "listen to the science" when making political decisions.

I wonder if HIS funeral will be limited to 30 people.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:19 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I guess royalism was more important than safety. The UK government clearly does not "listen to the science" when making political decisions.

I wonder if HIS funeral will be limited to 30 people.


Nah, cause covid doesn't spread at funerals for famous people. Covid picks and chooses where to spread based on the political climate of the area.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:22 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I guess royalism was more important than safety. The UK government clearly does not "listen to the science" when making political decisions.

I wonder if HIS funeral will be limited to 30 people.

Maybe if you don't count all the security.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:22 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I guess royalism was more important than safety. The UK government clearly does not "listen to the science" when making political decisions.

I wonder if HIS funeral will be limited to 30 people.


IIRC according to his will he's not going to have a state funeral or military parade.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:28 am

Salus Maior wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:I wonder if HIS funeral will be limited to 30 people.


IIRC according to his will he's not going to have a state funeral or military parade.

The funeral procession won't be happening, I believe, because of the pandemic. Don't want people lining the streets. It won't be a state funeral because, as you say, Philip just didn't want one.
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Postby Hirota » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:32 am

It should be relatively obvious, even to some posters on here, that the feedback/outcry over the met police handling at the Clapham vigil will inevitably effect how they are acting with regards to other vigils.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:38 am

Hirota wrote:It should be relatively obvious, even to some posters on here, that the feedback/outcry over the met police handling at the Clapham vigil are informing how they are acting with regards to other vigils.

What a shame that they only had the realisation that they have some discretion in how they enforce the law after the vigil for the woman apparently murdered by one of their colleagues.
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