UK Politics Thread XIII: The Brexit Ship Departs

[Dumb Ideologies]

Boris Johnson is self-isolating after coming into contact with someone who tested positive for Covid-19, Downing Street has said.

I find it very difficult to believe the person meeting with him only lost their sense of taste afterwards.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

We could put Johnson in a giant hamster ball, so he could at least get out and about. Zorbing for all.

[The New California Republic]

Boris Johnson is self-isolating after coming into contact with someone who tested positive for Covid-19, Downing Street has said.

I find it very difficult to believe the person meeting with him only lost their sense of taste afterwards.

...lel.

We could put Johnson in a giant hamster ball, so he could at least get out and about. Zorbing for all.

Nah, cos you just know that folk would mess with it when he is inside.

[The Free Joy State]

We could put Johnson in a giant hamster ball, so he could at least get out and about. Zorbing for all.

Nah, cos you just know that folk would mess with it when he is inside.

I'm now picturing Michael Gove and Theresa May rolling his hamster ball back and forth, and Johnson crying out, "Guys... Come on! I need to get to Downing Street. Oh, come on! I'll tell Sir Lindsay Hoyle!"

[Chan Island]

We could put Johnson in a giant hamster ball, so he could at least get out and about. Zorbing for all.

Nah, cos you just know that folk would mess with it when he is inside.

You say that like that's a negative.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

... and so the sport of Boris ball was invented.

[Souseiseki]

Boris Johnson is self-isolating after coming into contact with someone who tested positive for Covid-19, Downing Street has said.

originally read this as "boris johnson is self-owning" and it still fits

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

Where is Corbyn btw?

[CoraSpia]

Boris Johnson is self-isolating after coming into contact with someone who tested positive for Covid-19, Downing Street has said.

Boris is like that annoying former lover who just won't go away. I feel so sorry for covid having to put up with him.

[Ifreann]

Boris Johnson is self-isolating after coming into contact with someone who tested positive for Covid-19, Downing Street has said.

originally read this as "boris johnson is self-owning" and it still fits

PM reportedly shrinking and transforming into a corncob.

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Where is Corbyn btw?

The backbenches?

[Hirota]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 22747.html

Over 1 in 4 Muslim members and supporters have directly experienced Islamophobia in the Labour Party according to a report published by the Labour Muslim Network. Worth noting this is based on 674 respondents, and the report mentions an estimated 10,000 to 20,000 Muslim Labour members in the UK. Troubling, but not exactly overwhelming evidence.

[Philjia]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-islamophobia-muslims-keir-starmer-b1722747.html

Over 1 in 4 Muslim members and supporters have directly experienced Islamophobia in the Labour Party according to a report published by the Labour Muslim Network. Worth noting this is based on 674 respondents, and the report mentions an estimated 10,000 to 20,000 Muslim Labour members in the UK. Troubling, but not exactly overwhelming evidence.

Depends on their methodology. A self selecting sample might be more likely to report abuse, but even so the issue should certainly be looked into more widely.

[Vassenor]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-islamophobia-muslims-keir-starmer-b1722747.html

Over 1 in 4 Muslim members and supporters have directly experienced Islamophobia in the Labour Party according to a report published by the Labour Muslim Network. Worth noting this is based on 674 respondents, and the report mentions an estimated 10,000 to 20,000 Muslim Labour members in the UK. Troubling, but not exactly overwhelming evidence.

Apparently a common problem in UK politics.

[Chan Island]

Where is Corbyn btw?

Probably in Islington chilling.

Oh you mean politically? Still suspended from the Labour Party. And with that one fan club PLP in Bristol also getting suspended, I think he's probably going to stay there a while.

[Vassenor]

Where is Corbyn btw?

Probably in Islington chilling.

Oh you mean politically? Still suspended from the Labour Party. And with that one fan club PLP in Bristol also getting suspended, I think he's probably going to stay there a while.

Remember, nothing says "this is not a political hit job" like suspending people for criticising the not a political hit job act.

[Chan Island]

Probably in Islington chilling.

Oh you mean politically? Still suspended from the Labour Party. And with that one fan club PLP in Bristol also getting suspended, I think he's probably going to stay there a while.

Remember, nothing says "this is not a political hit job" like suspending people for criticising the not a political hit job act.

In fairness, the rule against acting against a suspension like that has been around for a while. The conventional logic is that it's something for the party machinery to deal with it and then decide whether his acts really deserve expulsion or not, and passing a motion to condemn that suspension risks making the process more political than it ought to be.

It's a pity all around I have to say. By all accounts Starmer was very reluctant to do that. Corbyn never did like the implication that he was anti-semitic so of course would move to defend himself in his old man ways. Tragedy all round.

[Philjia]

The government's proposals to reform the planning system are going to be revised after receiving criticism from both sides of the house.

[Philjia]

Boris Johnson 'called Scottish devolution disaster'.
I'm sure this will endear him to the Scots.

[CoraSpia]

Boris Johnson 'called Scottish devolution disaster'.
I'm sure this will endear him to the Scots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWz0qVvBZ0

[The Nihilistic view]

Boris Johnson 'called Scottish devolution disaster'.
I'm sure this will endear him to the Scots.

Because putting on a kilt and proclaiming Haggis to be the ambrosia of the gods instead would change perceptions of him beyond the wall?

[Philjia]

Boris Johnson 'called Scottish devolution disaster'.
I'm sure this will endear him to the Scots.

Because putting on a kilt and proclaiming Haggis to be the ambrosia of the gods instead would change perceptions of him beyond the wall?

There are conservatives in Scotland.

[Andmora]

Because putting on a kilt and proclaiming Haggis to be the ambrosia of the gods instead would change perceptions of him beyond the wall?

There are conservatives in Scotland.

Who are, whether you like it or not, critical to the Conservative Party holding power. It's important to bear in mind that TM would not have been able to hold power in 2017 without her Scottish MPs [1]. Its also somewhat important to consider that current polling shows that the Conservatives in Scotland could slump into 3rd or perhaps 4th [2], especially with the return of Farage's Brexit Reform Party.

I haven't exactly looked into the article but is it possible this is a leak from Cummings following his departure last week? If this is a Downing Street press release then idk what they're playing at .

Also, tagging. I'm a new member but I heard about this place is good politics, thought I'd take a look.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election_in_Scotland
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_p ... n#Scotland

[Hirota]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-islamophobia-muslims-keir-starmer-b1722747.html

Over 1 in 4 Muslim members and supporters have directly experienced Islamophobia in the Labour Party according to a report published by the Labour Muslim Network. Worth noting this is based on 674 respondents, and the report mentions an estimated 10,000 to 20,000 Muslim Labour members in the UK. Troubling, but not exactly overwhelming evidence.

Apparently a common problem in UK politics.

Wait, are you trying to pull the "But both sides" you so often complain others are doing when it's inconvenient for you?

Your lazy double standards aside, yes, it does seem to be a common problem in UK politics. The report linked in that op-ed is far more valid, but like the similar report for Labour as Philjia pointed out doesn't describe it's methodology.

Still, as soon UK politics collectively accepts it isn't a tribal issue of Red or Blue being more or less racist than the other, hopefully this issue would be addressed in a non-partisan manner. Alternatively, if they cannot come together, Instead of wildly accusing others of racism, both parties should get their own house in order.

[Hirota]

Also, tagging. I'm a new member but I heard about this place is good politics, thought I'd take a look.

Welcome,

Sometimes people are a bit lazy and dogmatic on here, but it's better than most politics sites I've encountered on social media, which tend to hover around the level of cess pits.

Who are, whether you like it or not, critical to the Conservative Party holding power. It's important to bear in mind that TM would not have been able to hold power in 2017 without her Scottish MPs

True, but if you are magically waving away MP's in Scotland, you should wave away all MP's in Scotland. Without Scottish MP's TM would have had 304 seats, with the opposition totaling 287, an outright majority. Therefore, you can make the case that Scottish MP's were critical to forcing the Conservative party to cater to the DUP to hold power.

It's also worth noting they were critical in 2017, not are critical since 2019, using number of MP's as a measurement of how critical they are...although this isn't a particularly good measurement for how critical they are, and ignores that obviously it should be desirable for the Tories to get claw back some more seats in Scotland, and the fact that they have a large number of "migrant Scots" who represent seats elsewhere in the UK.

I haven't exactly looked into the article but is it possible this is a leak from Cummings following his departure last week? If this is a Downing Street press release then idk what they're playing at .

Ahh, seeing the spectral hand of Dominic Cummings in everything? You will fit in well here.

According to the beeb, "Mr Johnson was in a Zoom meeting with Tory MPs representing dozens of seats in northern England on Monday when he is said to have made the remarks."

[Old Tyrannia]

Boris Johnson 'called Scottish devolution disaster'.
I'm sure this will endear him to the Scots.