Is there a God?

[Jedi Council]

You do realize there are highly educated atheists who are well versed in literature, history, culture and theology right?

It's not like we all picked up the Bible, went "Hurrr durrr stupid God" and went about our day.

Maybe those people do exist.
But they aren't present in this thread apparently.

They do exist yes.

Feel free to go listen to some of their lectures or read some of their books.

[The New California Republic]

Genesis 3:8-9

Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. But the Lord God called to the man, 'Where are you?'

They seemed to succeed in hiding. Where can I find one of these God-impervious trees that obscures his vision?

You have already been explained in the past how that part can be interpreted without any inconsistence to occur.

Through some pretty creative interpretation tbh...

[Jedi Council]

You have already been explained in the past how that part can be interpreted without any inconsistence to occur.

Through some pretty creative interpretation tbh...

God was just playing along. He likes a good game of hide and seek

[The New California Republic]

Through some pretty creative interpretation tbh...

God was just playing along. He likes a good game of hide and seek

Or a game of peekaboo.

[Jedi Council]

God was just playing along. He likes a good game of hide and seek

Or a game of peekaboo.

Gotta let him win though, you wouldn't like him when hes angry.

[La Xinga]

No? Are YOU trying to say that the Saxon Conversion and Tuetonic Crusades were simply the work of peaceful missionaries?

Not at all, quite the opposite actually.

But give the ^ in your last post, I assumed you were pointing to the missionaries in the previous comment.

However, you asked for examples of Christianity being spread by the sword in Europe, and now you have two.

I know, but you failed to address the Visigoths. And how the missionaries succeeded.

Through missionaries. Also Visigoths.

^

Yet we have info from all the way since the creation of the world!

Depending on what you mean by 'info', sure.

But we in the modern era are uniquely situated to both be capable of understanding that this information even exists, and accessing it. Somebody living centuries ago would have a much harder time accessing such information, if they're even aware that this information exists.

I'm sure they'd have had access to some info.

[The Alma Mater]

You do realize there are highly educated atheists who are well versed in literature, history, culture and theology right?

It's not like we all picked up the Bible, went "Hurrr durrr stupid God" and went about our day.

Maybe those people do exist.
But they aren't present in this thread apparently.

Well, it does not help there are no decent teachers. You blame protestants - but catholics did a damn good job of making themselves look untrustworthy.

[The New California Republic]

Or a game of peekaboo.

Gotta let him win though, you wouldn't like him when hes angry.

Adam: "Got your nose!"

God:

[Jedi Council]

Not at all, quite the opposite actually.

But give the ^ in your last post, I assumed you were pointing to the missionaries in the previous comment.

However, you asked for examples of Christianity being spread by the sword in Europe, and now you have two.

I know, but you failed to address the Visigoths. And how the missionaries succeeded.

Depending on what you mean by 'info', sure.

But we in the modern era are uniquely situated to both be capable of understanding that this information even exists, and accessing it. Somebody living centuries ago would have a much harder time accessing such information, if they're even aware that this information exists.

I'm sure they'd have had access to some info.

So what? Missionaries work sometimes, that doesnt mean their religion is correct. It just means they are good at their job, and have a better offer than what is currently being practised.

[The Alma Mater]

I'm sure they'd have had access to some info.

How ?

[Jedi Council]

Gotta let him win though, you wouldn't like him when hes angry.

Adam: "Got your nose!"

God:

And yet it was Eve who got the bad rap, smh

[Aeritai]

I'm honestly surprised this thread has lasted this long. I mean we pretty much have our answers half of NSG believes in God and the other half are atheists.

[La Xinga]

I know, but you failed to address the Visigoths. And how the missionaries succeeded.

I'm sure they'd have had access to some info.

So what? Missionaries work sometimes, that doesnt mean their religion is correct. It just means they are good at their job, and have a better offer than what is currently being practised.

Of course. Yet it doesn't mean they're wrong.

I'm sure they'd have had access to some info.

How ?

You think A Roman living Southern France didn't know about Pompeii?

[Jedi Council]

I'm honestly surprised this thread has lasted this long. I mean we pretty much have our answers half of NSG believes in God and the other half are atheists.

It's been relatively banal so far, generally just the religious sneering at Atheists ignorance of scripture and theology, and the Atheist smugly expounding science and reason.

It's how these things go.

[Jedi Council]

So what? Missionaries work sometimes, that doesnt mean their religion is correct. It just means they are good at their job, and have a better offer than what is currently being practised.

Of course. Yet it doesn't mean they're wrong.

How ?

You think A Roman living Southern France didn't know about Pompeii?

Where did I say that it did mean they were wrong?

Oh wait, I didnt.

[La Xinga]

Of course. Yet it doesn't mean they're wrong.

You think A Roman living Southern France didn't know about Pompeii?

Where did I say that it did mean they were wrong?

Oh wait, I didnt.

I never said you did.

So you agree that there is no evidence Abrahamic religions are wrong?

[Jedi Council]

Where did I say that it did mean they were wrong?

Oh wait, I didnt.

I never said you did.

So you agree that there is no evidence Abrahamic religions are wrong?

It's hard to prove a negative, especially given that the burden of proof is on the religions themselves since they are the ones making a claim.

I merely reject this claim because they have no evidence for it.

[The New California Republic]

Adam: "Got your nose!"

God:

And yet it was Eve who got the bad rap, smh

Yeah the apple business was worse than the nose trick. He forgave the latter but not the former.

[Jedi Council]

And yet it was Eve who got the bad rap, smh

Yeah the apple business was worse than the nose trick. He forgave the latter but not the former.

I mean, I'd me way more pissed if someone took my nose. Like god damn, I need that shit. Who gives the fuck about some random ass naked woman eating an apple.

[La Xinga]

I never said you did.

So you agree that there is no evidence Abrahamic religions are wrong?

It's hard to prove a negative, especially given that the burden of proof is on the religions themselves since they are the ones making a claim.

I merely reject this claim because they have no evidence for it.

Atheists are also making claims. Claims there are no God.

[Jedi Council]

It's hard to prove a negative, especially given that the burden of proof is on the religions themselves since they are the ones making a claim.

I merely reject this claim because they have no evidence for it.

Atheists are also making claims. Claims there are no God.

That's a fundamental misunderstanding of atheism.

Atheism is lacking belief in a deity. That's not making a claim, that is the non-existance of a claim.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It's hard to prove a negative, especially given that the burden of proof is on the religions themselves since they are the ones making a claim.

I merely reject this claim because they have no evidence for it.

Atheists are also making claims. Claims there are no God.

I think there's plenty of evidence that at least your God doesn't exist, since he can't be all knowing all loving and all powerful and have a world as fucked up as this under his control.

[The New California Republic]

Yeah the apple business was worse than the nose trick. He forgave the latter but not the former.

I mean, I'd me way more pissed if someone took my nose. Like god damn, I need that shit. Who gives the fuck about some random ass naked woman eating an apple.

He eventually realised it was Adam's thumb, but not before threatening to send fire and pestilence into Eden unless Adam gave it back.

[La Xinga]

Atheists are also making claims. Claims there are no God.

That's a fundamental misunderstanding of atheism.

Atheism is lacking belief in a deity. That's not making a claim, that is the non-existance of a claim.

No, it's a claim that God doesn't exist. It's a claim.

Atheists are also making claims. Claims there are no God.

I think there's plenty of evidence that at least your God doesn't exist, since he can't be all knowing all loving and all powerful and have a world as fucked up as this under his control.

Give me an example of your last 7 words, and I'll explain it.

[Valrifell]

I never said you did.

So you agree that there is no evidence Abrahamic religions are wrong?

It's hard to prove a negative, especially given that the burden of proof is on the religions themselves since they are the ones making a claim.

I merely reject this claim because they have no evidence for it.

Well, the historical claims put forward by the Bible and Quaran (et al.) are demonstrably false and in most cases the God(s) aren't even self-consistent in their own stories.

I mean how does the tri-omni God not know about the serpent's depiction? Why did his characterization completely flip between the Old and New Testaments?