A Chip is Coming Into Your Brain

[Salandriagado]

We would have to actually develop something capable of achieving self-awareness first,

We seem to be well on our way to it

You are absolutely and completely incorrect. We're about as far away from self-aware AGI as a society that's just invented pointy sticks is from nuclear weapons.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

https://artselectronic.wordpress.com/20 ... uid-metal/

You sure about that?

They literally say it’s a long long way off to making 3D shapes and even then it was made with human input and not AI

It’s certainly far off from turning into the shape of Robert Patrick.

[Salandriagado]

Absolutely no one is trying to develop the T-1000.

https://artselectronic.wordpress.com/20 ... uid-metal/

You sure about that?

That's literally not AI in any way, shape, or form (unless you're counting humans as AI).

[San Lumen]

They literally say it’s a long long way off to making 3D shapes and even then it was made with human input and not AI

It’s certainly far off from turning into the shape of Robert Patrick.

Its the beginning though

[Region of Dwipantara]

AI is an existential threat.

About as much as any child is. Also, there's no AI here.

It's more of the fact that Neuralink, which will open the gate to the future brain-machine integration industry, is (for now) one if not the most promising way for humanity to "compete with AI and stay relevant". And we're talking about the long game here, like 2050-2060."

And technically yes, there is AI. It's not like there is some guy in California who monitors the signals coming from a user's brain 24/7, study the patterns, and then make decisions on what to do.

[Andsed]

It’s certainly far off from turning into the shape of Robert Patrick.

Its the beginning though

Is it though? Its just liquid metal. Cool and useful in many ways, but hardly terminator shit.

[Salandriagado]

About as much as any child is. Also, there's no AI here.

It's more of the fact that Neuralink, which will open the gate to the future brain-machine integration industry, is (for now) one if not the most promising way for humanity can "compete with AI and stay relevant". And we're talking about the long game here, like 2050-2060."

And technically yes, there is AI. It's not like there is some guy in California who monitors the signals coming from a user's brain 24/7, study the patterns, and then make decisions on what to do.

You have a rather strange (and completely incorrect) idea of what "AI" means. This chip is no more intelligent than the audio chip in the computer you're reading this on.

[Thermodolia]

It’s certainly far off from turning into the shape of Robert Patrick.

Its the beginning though

As much as the Iron Age was the beginning of nuclear technology

[Ifreann]

Remember when Elon Musk was going to turn the Earth's crust into a honeycomb of hyperloops, changing personal transportation forever? Remember when he was going to fix Flint's water? Remember when he was bragging about how his cybertruck was bullet resistant but then smashed the windows easily? I would sooner trust my health to someone in the streets claiming to be a wizard than this overhyped buffoon who has fallen for his own con.

You’re a wizard Iffy!

My brain would probably be safer with Hagrid than Musk.

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Do you really think that those movies didn’t have scientists and other experts weighing in on the movie during production?

Even if they did some scientists seem keen on creating things in some of those films.

Because lots of the technologies we've imagined in fiction would be really cool in reality.

[San Lumen]

You’re a wizard Iffy!

My brain would probably be safer with Hagrid than Musk.

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Even if they did some scientists seem keen on creating things in some of those films.

Because lots of the technologies we've imagined in fiction would be really cool in reality.

Yeah I, Robot and Terminator sound really cool

[Region of Dwipantara]

It's more of the fact that Neuralink, which will open the gate to the future brain-machine integration industry, is (for now) one if not the most promising way for humanity can "compete with AI and stay relevant". And we're talking about the long game here, like 2050-2060."

And technically yes, there is AI. It's not like there is some guy in California who monitors the signals coming from a user's brain 24/7, study the patterns, and then make decisions on what to do.

You have a rather strange (and completely incorrect) idea of what "AI" means.

Well, that's not my idea, the Great Replacement and whatnot are just what Musk said during the livestream. However, it is true that a lot of human's role will be increasingly replaced, and it is also true that technological advancement in the next 30 years is hella unpredictable. Cybernetics certainly will help manage that, as it has a much more tangible, futuristic goal of making AI-enabled devices capable of interacting with people's brains.

About the second part, it's just standard operation for any company today to employ artificial intelligence in their products and operations, especially in places like Neuralink where there are a lot of data to be processed and unknowns to be mapped. That's just normal today's reality. And it's not like that will take over the world,, that's just weak AIs.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

My brain would probably be safer with Hagrid than Musk.

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Because lots of the technologies we've imagined in fiction would be really cool in reality.

Yeah I, Robot and Terminator sound really cool

Luckily for all of us, the possibility of either of those fictions becoming reality is very improbable.

[San Lumen]

Yeah I, Robot and Terminator sound really cool

Luckily for all of us, the possibility of either of those fictions becoming reality is very improbable.

On what basis?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Luckily for all of us, the possibility of either of those fictions becoming reality is very improbable.

On what basis?

Did you not read what was said earlier about there being no push or drive to develop self-aware AI’s?

[Torisakia]

Nearly everyone (including you), if they live long enough, will develop at least one brain-spine neurological disorder. I have witnessed one myself, where an aging relative slowly decays into an infant-like mental state; it was terrible. An implantable device can solve this problem. All of your senses: your sight, hearing, smell, pain, feeling, these are all electrical signals sent by neurons to the brain.

I don't know. It's kinda cool I guess. I don't think it could could solve problems like depression and insomnia though.

If someone can correct and control these signals with a machine, you can actually say a permanent goodbye to:

• Depression,
• Insomnia,
• Memory loss
• Hearing loss,
• Blindness,
• Paralysis,
• Extreme Pain,
• Seizures,
• Anxiety,
• Strokes,
• Brain damage,
• and even Addiction.

[Region of Dwipantara]

We seem to be well on our way to it

You are absolutely and completely incorrect. We're about as far away from self-aware AGI as a society that's just invented pointy sticks is from nuclear weapons.

And experts have predicted the development of artificial intelligence to be achieved as early as by 2030. A survey of AI experts recently predicted the expected emergence of AGI or the singularity by the year 2060.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... gence/amp/
https://research.aimultiple.com/artific ... ty-timing/

So yes, it's still around 40 years away, but then again that's the distance from 2020 to 1980.

[BurritoBowl]

This is one of the most insidious concepts I've ever heard of, and will be used only for evil. How long until some police department gets a search warrant for someone's brain and shoves one of these in someone's skull against their will?

The potential for abuse is limitless. This kind of technology should be prohibited.

[Immoren]

My brain would probably be safer with Hagrid than Musk.

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Because lots of the technologies we've imagined in fiction would be really cool in reality.

Yeah I, Robot and Terminator sound really cool

I don't remember I, Robot having many robot nightmares, but it's while since I read the short story collection?
And didn't Skynet act out of self-defence when humans tried to shut it down? At least originally?
So Terminator's moral is not to shut down AI with access to WMDs?

[Torisakia]

This is one of the most insidious concepts I've ever heard of, and will be used only for evil. How long until some police department gets a search warrant for someone's brain and shoves one of these in someone's skull against their will?

The potential for abuse is limitless. This kind of technology should be prohibited.

How would a police department conduct a search warrant on someone's brain? And some amount of surgery would be required to insert the chip anyway. There's a lot of ethical issues with this technology, but saying the police can forcibly implant the chip is a bit farfetched.

[State of Turelisa]

People keep saying that this is the mark of the beast. Is this true?

The word χάραγμ in the original Greek source of Rev:13:16-17 means 'imprinted seal'. He causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to receive an imprinted seal on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one may buy or sell, except he who has the imprinted seal...

It's quite possible that the book of Revelation foresees a future tyranny using bionic implants to control humanity by direct control over their mental impulses. Revelation describes many things which resemble future technology - creatures which resemble and behave like helicopters (They also had thoraxes like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the roar of many horses and chariots rushing into battle.They had tails with stingers like scorpions.)

[San Lumen]

Yeah I, Robot and Terminator sound really cool

I don't remember I, Robot having many robot nightmares, but it's while since I read the short story collection?
And didn't Skynet act out of self-defence when humans tried to shut it down? At least originally?
So Terminator's moral is not to shut down AI with access to WMDs?

That was the whole point. Being shut down was a threat to its existence

[Region of Dwipantara]

There is a pretty good analogy of how would AI will likely present a danger to humanity: "In a hurry, you told the self-driving taxi to go to the airport as fast as possible. You arrive at the airport covered in vomit, with police cars surrounding you on all sides."

I mean considering how Google maps already knows the speed limit of practically every road in the contiguous united states (at least), I find it hard to believe a self-driving car would permit itself to break the law at the behest of a user.

As you said, it depends of the place, I mean during my cross-island trip Google Maps tried to send us to a track in the middle of a fucking jungle where grass/bushes had covered the road's surface and the slopes reaches 45° inclination. Not to mention it's the middle of the night and there was no lamp, everyone was tired, and robbers armed with big sickles were said to roam around.

On a more serious note, the point is that the risks associated with AI development are often very unpredictable and can come from all kinds of fringe scenarios.

[New yugoslavaia]

People keep saying that this is the mark of the beast. Is this true?

The word χάραγμ in the original Greek source of Rev:13:16-17 means 'imprinted seal'. He causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to receive an imprinted seal on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one may buy or sell, except he who has the imprinted seal...

It's quite possible that the book of Revelation foresees a future tyranny using bionic implants to control humanity by direct control over their mental impulses. Revelation describes many things which resemble future technology - creatures which resemble and behave like helicopters (They also had thoraxes like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the roar of many horses and chariots rushing into battle.They had tails with stingers like scorpions.)

But is it being pushed by Satan?
If not, then it's not the mark of the beast. It's just a form of control.

[Salandriagado]

You have a rather strange (and completely incorrect) idea of what "AI" means.

Well, that's not my idea, the Great Replacement and whatnot are just what Musk said during the livestream. However, it is true that a lot of human's role will be increasingly replaced, and it is also true that technological advancement in the next 30 years is hella unpredictable. Cybernetics certainly will help manage that, as it has a much more tangible, futuristic goal of making AI-enabled devices capable of interacting with people's brains.

About the second part, it's just standard operation for any company today to employ artificial intelligence in their products and operations, especially in places like Neuralink where there are a lot of data to be processed and unknowns to be mapped. That's just normal today's reality. And it's not like that will take over the world,, that's just weak AIs.

No, it is your idea. You can tell, by how you're the one who said it. It's also nothing to do with this "great replacement" thing: you're arguing that a chip doing some low-level processing is "AI".

[Salandriagado]

Luckily for all of us, the possibility of either of those fictions becoming reality is very improbable.

On what basis?

Completely incorrect underlying assumptions, mostly.