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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:40 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Apparently three peoole have been shot, one fatally.

“Peaceful protests” indeed...


That's not good. Were they protesters shot by police? Protesters shot by vigilantes? Police shot by protesters? Police shot by vigilantes?

In your hurry to get in first with the news, you've overlooked everything but the headline, then drawn your own conclusion ... which is suspect on the face of it. Many many peaceful protests have been bumped from the news by violent dickheads turning up and using the protest as cover from the police, to smash and burn stuff. You know that. So there's no way you're just being objective when you ascribe violence to peaceful protesters. Three peoole have been shot, one fatally. That's terrible!

Source?


Protesters shot by vigilantes or Boogaloos, from what I've read so far.
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Postby Loben III » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:41 am

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Mannixa Prime wrote:Apparently three peoole have been shot, one fatally.

“Peaceful protests” indeed...

Was this part of it?

"All of a sudden, we see this older white man come hurling out of the bushes, and he's firing at us," Whitney Cabal, one activist, told Insider. "I was crouching behind my car door."

A white man shot at a group of Black Lives Matter activists on a 730-mile march from Wisconsin to DC.


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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:41 am

Link is posted above for those obsessing over it and as far as I can tell google isn’t down
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:42 am

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So how does this shooting make the protests not peaceful? Because that sure as hell sounds like you're saying the shooter was a protester.


Do you that saying about assumptions?


Good posters do give such scope for others to make assumptions. They make full and clear statements, with a source if they aren't prepared to give all the details.

You want to be a good slightly-better-than-stinking-rotten poster, don't you?
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Postby Zapato » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:43 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238102

Here, for the people who can’t google

Could be the police, killing people for no reason again. Your article doesn't say.


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Postby Loben III » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:44 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:Link is posted above for those obsessing over it and as far as I can tell google isn’t down


It’s all over twitter.

3 motherfuckers were attacking a guy. Looks an awful like self defense.
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Postby Loben III » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:44 am

Zapato wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238102

Here, for the people who can’t google

Could be the police, killing people for no reason again. Your article doesn't say.


I have video.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:45 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238102

Here, for the people who can’t google


It was three quarters of a page to get that link out of you. Three quarters of a page with nothing on it but you refusing to give a link and others demanding the link.

That's a measure of how much of other people's time you are willing to waste, just to save a few seconds of your own.

Not a good mate. Really pretty slack.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:46 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238102

Here, for the people who can’t google


It was three quarters of a page to get that link out of you. Three quarters of a page with nothing on it but you refusing to give a link and others demanding the link.

That's a measure of how much of other people's time you are willing to waste, just to save a few seconds of your own.

Not a good mate. Really pretty slack.

If your not able to google an article in the time it took you all to argue with me, your wasting your own time.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:46 am

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Zapato wrote:Could be the police, killing people for no reason again. Your article doesn't say.


I have video.


And you're not posting it, why? Not PG-13 ?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:46 am

Loben III wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Link is posted above for those obsessing over it and as far as I can tell google isn’t down


It’s all over twitter.

3 motherfuckers were attacking a guy. Looks an awful like self defense.


Yeah, it tends to be self defence when you chase down and tackle a guy who just shot three people.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:47 am

Apparently no one here has social media or can type on a keyboard ahah
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:47 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:Apparently no one here has social media or can type on a keyboard ahah


Right, how dare we expect you to back up your own claims.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Apparently no one here has social media or can type on a keyboard ahah


Right, how dare we expect you to back up your own claims.

Sorry “masta” I’ll try harder next time
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:49 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
It was three quarters of a page to get that link out of you. Three quarters of a page with nothing on it but you refusing to give a link and others demanding the link.

That's a measure of how much of other people's time you are willing to waste, just to save a few seconds of your own.

Not a good mate. Really pretty slack.

If your not able to google an article in the time it took you all to argue with me, your wasting your own time.


I could google it and I'd find ... possibly something different to what you found. Not all media is the same, I'm sure you'd agree.

Before arguing the point about "peaceful protesters" it would be good if we're all looking at the same link. Or else we wouldn't be so much arguing as embodying a clash of "facts" from different sources. Like media consumers who only ever watch CNN wringing our hands about how bad FOX is.

Accepting some facts in common is fundamental to having any kind of adult debate. But I'm thinking you're not much into that.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:51 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:Apparently no one here has social media ...


Oh, so your claim to be well-informed is based on you having social media.

*laughs in old geezer*
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:51 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:If your not able to google an article in the time it took you all to argue with me, your wasting your own time.


I could google it and I'd find ... possibly something different to what you found. Not all media is the same, I'm sure you'd agree.

Before arguing the point about "peaceful protesters" it would be good if we're all looking at the same link. Or else we wouldn't be so much arguing as embodying a clash of "facts" from different sources. Like media consumers who only ever watch CNN wringing our hands about how bad FOX is.

Accepting some facts in common is fundamental to having any kind of adult debate. But I'm thinking you're not much into that.

This is a random forum on the internet on a site that hasn’t been relevant since 2010. Simmer down.

Adults can type and not make assumptions either.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:52 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Right, how dare we expect you to back up your own claims.

Sorry “masta” I’ll try harder next time


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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:52 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Apparently no one here has social media ...


Oh, so your claim to be well-informed is based on you having social media.

*laughs in old geezer*

No, just having access to breaking news from mainstream sources. Weird I know.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:53 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Oh, so your claim to be well-informed is based on you having social media.

*laughs in old geezer*

No, just having access to breaking news from mainstream sources. Weird I know.


Yet getting you to provide those sources was like pulling teeth. And you still haven't proven that the shooter was a protester and thus justifying your dismissive comment about peaceful protests.
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Postby Zapato » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:54 am

Loben III wrote:
Zapato wrote:Could be the police, killing people for no reason again. Your article doesn't say.


I have video.

Of the police, killing for no damned reason? Again? Like the one in the OP?


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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:54 am

Not again. Will the violence stop? Just when I thought it couldn't get worse.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:55 am

Vassenor wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:No, just having access to breaking news from mainstream sources. Weird I know.


Yet getting you to provide those sources was like pulling teeth. And you still haven't proven that the shooter was a protester and thus justifying your dismissive comment about peaceful protests.

I’ll say it again, wasn’t blaming either side I was just detailing how these protests and the overall situation we face isn’t peaceful or normal.

Simmer down.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:56 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Yet getting you to provide those sources was like pulling teeth. And you still haven't proven that the shooter was a protester and thus justifying your dismissive comment about peaceful protests.

I’ll say it again, wasn’t blaming either side I was just detailing how these protests and the overall situation we face isn’t peaceful or normal.

Simmer down.


Apparently someone shooting -at- the protest makes the protest itself not peaceful somehow. Huh.
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Postby Zapato » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:57 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Not again. Will the violence stop? Just when I thought it couldn't get worse.

It won't stop. The police are incentivized and encouraged to be violent, and are often shielded from any and all consequences of their violence.


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