Violence Outbreak in Kenosha WI

[Telconi]

As opposed to the people left with life changing injuries from being shot with lead bullets?

...You couldn't have missed the point any harder if you'd tried.

Can't miss what doesn't exist.

[Vassenor]

...You couldn't have missed the point any harder if you'd tried.

Can't miss what doesn't exist.

Willing blindness. Cute.

Or just an unwillingness to see solutions that don't involve guns.

[Loben III]

Rubber bullets for hand guns?

maybe pepper spray rounds like they have for paintball guns?

-looks at all the people left with life changing injuries from being shot with rubber bullets in the last six months-

Sorry if they are not made with the targets comfort in mind.

[Telconi]

Can't miss what doesn't exist.

Willing blindness. Cute.

Or just an unwillingness to see solutions that don't involve guns.

You don't offer solutions though.

[Vassenor]

-looks at all the people left with life changing injuries from being shot with rubber bullets in the last six months-

Sorry if they are not made with the targets comfort in mind.

I'm sorry, I thought we were looking for ways to subdue targets without lasting harm. Unfortunately that means no shooting and I see some people get upset by that idea.

[Outer Acharet]

Sorry if they are not made with the targets comfort in mind.

I'm sorry, I thought we were looking for ways to subdue targets without lasting harm. Unfortunately that means no shooting and I see some people get upset by that idea.

I mean the only real role I see rubber bullets filling is essentially shooting a varmint with a BB gun: shocking it (or in this case a human being) into running away from you. If you're going to use it for crowd control like that just use paintball guns filled with pepper spray, less likelihood of seriously hurting people

[Fartsniffage]

You are not making sense.

So it’s ok to be shot by rubber bullets rather then led bullets?

It's certainly better.

Not from a pistol. You make a rubber bullet that small and it's just a bullet.

[Telconi]

It's certainly better.

Not from a pistol. You make a rubber bullet that small and it's just a bullet.

I'm not sure how rubber bullets behave realistically, I figured a rubber bullet would be less likely to cause lethal harm than a normal bullet.

[Fartsniffage]

Not from a pistol. You make a rubber bullet that small and it's just a bullet.

I'm not sure how rubber bullets behave realistically, I figured a rubber bullet would be less likely to cause lethal harm than a normal bullet.

Nah. Rubber bullets are considerably larger than regular rounds. So they're shot from something like a 40mm launcher or are fired like rifle grenades from rifles or shotguns. They rely on their large size to not penetrate.

[The New California Republic]

Not from a pistol. You make a rubber bullet that small and it's just a bullet.

I'm not sure how rubber bullets behave realistically, I figured a rubber bullet would be less likely to cause lethal harm than a normal bullet.

No that's not how they work. They need to be fairly large in order to have sufficient surface area to dump the energy over a wide area, as that's the end goal of them.

[Thermodolia]

Rubber bullets for hand guns?

maybe pepper spray rounds like they have for paintball guns?

Loudspeakers that play 6ix9ine but bass boosted.

Ok war criminal

[Ifreann]

So I did some more digging into who Jacob Blake was...

He's alive and in hospital, reportedly paralysed from the waist down.

[The Black Forrest]

So I did some more digging into who Jacob Blake was...

He's alive and in hospital, reportedly paralysed from the waist down.

Hopefully it’s a temporary thing. Even then from what I saw; the city has to pay him a great deal of money.

[Asle Leopolka]

He's alive and in hospital, reportedly paralysed from the waist down.

Hopefully it’s a temporary thing. Even then from what I saw; the city has to pay him a great deal of money.

Apparently his spinal cord is severed so he'll probably be in a wheelchair for life.

[US-SSR]

If they want to end the unrest they should arrest the cops. Today.

[Trollgaard]

If they want to end the unrest they should arrest the cops. Today.

Arrest them for shooting a man that fought with them, disobeyed orders to stop, and who was reaching into his car where there could have been a gun?

Let's wait till more facts come out.

Maybe you should have done that before calling for arrests with no basis in facts.

[The Black Forrest]

If they want to end the unrest they should arrest the cops. Today.

Arrest them for shooting a man that fought with them, disobeyed orders to stop, and who was reaching into his car where there could have been a gun?

Let's wait till more facts come out.

Maybe you should have done that before calling for arrests with no basis in facts.

Sounds more like a case of being pissed versus the perp being a threat.

[Trollgaard]

Arrest them for shooting a man that fought with them, disobeyed orders to stop, and who was reaching into his car where there could have been a gun?

Let's wait till more facts come out.

Maybe you should have done that before calling for arrests with no basis in facts.

Sounds more like a case of being pissed versus the perp being a threat.

Perhaps, but the dude just fought with the cops, there's video of it. So IF that is true, a dude who just resisted at best, or attacked officers at worst, was reaching into a vehicle, where many people do carry weapons, and was shot.

Now, was the shooting justified? I don't know. It seems like they could have taken him down while he was walking away from them to me, but is the shooting understandable with more facts rather than just the video and terrible news coverage? Of course it is.

You fight with cops and reach into a vehicle you are going to get shot- no matter your ethnicity.

Being placed on leaves seems appropriate at the moment.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Sounds more like a case of being pissed versus the perp being a threat.

Perhaps, but the dude just fought with the cops, there's video of it. So IF that is true, a dude who just resisted at best, or attacked officers at worst, was reaching into a vehicle, where many people do carry weapons, and was shot.

Now, was the shooting justified? I don't know. It seems like they could have taken him down while he was walking away from them to me, but is the shooting understandable with more facts rather than just the video and terrible news coverage? Of course it is.

You fight with cops and reach into a vehicle you are going to get shot- no matter your ethnicity.

Alternatively the cops could not be huge pussies and just take him down and restrain him.

[Trollgaard]

Perhaps, but the dude just fought with the cops, there's video of it. So IF that is true, a dude who just resisted at best, or attacked officers at worst, was reaching into a vehicle, where many people do carry weapons, and was shot.

Now, was the shooting justified? I don't know. It seems like they could have taken him down while he was walking away from them to me, but is the shooting understandable with more facts rather than just the video and terrible news coverage? Of course it is.

You fight with cops and reach into a vehicle you are going to get shot- no matter your ethnicity.

Alternatively the cops could not be huge pussies and just take him down and restrain him.

I said that was an option.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Alternatively the cops could not be huge pussies and just take him down and restrain him.

I said that was an option.

That being an option makes the shooting unjustifiable.

[Trollgaard]

I said that was an option.

That being an option makes the shooting unjustifiable.

Potentially. The fact that the Mr. Blake just fought with them and was reaching into a vehicle seems...like its a rather strong case for justifying the shooting as of now.

Not saying Mr. Blake deserved to be shot, but justifiable in to a court. I dunno, maybe they officers could be fired based on incompetence of not tackling the guy before he started reaching?

Its just a horrible situation. I hope Mr. Blake is able to walk again.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That being an option makes the shooting unjustifiable.

Potentially. The fact that the Mr. Blake just fought with them and was reaching into a vehicle seems...like its a rather strong case for justifying the shooting as of now.

Not saying Mr. Blake deserved to be shot, but justifiable in to a court. I dunno, maybe they officers could be fired based on incompetence of not tackling the guy before he started reaching?

Its just a horrible situation. I hope Mr. Blake is able to walk again.

Given there were genuinely dozen of other things the cop could have done before shooting it's nigh impossible to justify it. He needs booted from the force and sent to prison for several decades.

[Trollgaard]

Potentially. The fact that the Mr. Blake just fought with them and was reaching into a vehicle seems...like its a rather strong case for justifying the shooting as of now.

Not saying Mr. Blake deserved to be shot, but justifiable in to a court. I dunno, maybe they officers could be fired based on incompetence of not tackling the guy before he started reaching?

Its just a horrible situation. I hope Mr. Blake is able to walk again.

Given there were genuinely dozen of other things the cop could have done before shooting it's nigh impossible to justify it. He needs booted from the force and sent to prison for several decades.

Again, potentially. As terrible as the situation was Blake had a warrant, fought with officers, and was reaching into his vehicle. Those are some pretty big ol facts on the officers side.

[Liriena]

Given there were genuinely dozen of other things the cop could have done before shooting it's nigh impossible to justify it. He needs booted from the force and sent to prison for several decades.

Again, potentially. As terrible as the situation was Blake had a warrant, fought with officers

Maybe the cops should have deescalated.

and was reaching into his vehicle.

Which the cops only could have taken as a threat because they failed to deescalate and created a situation where Blake could be assumed as hostile.

Those are some pretty big ol facts on the officers side.

They are facts on the side of the officers being incompetent pussies who can't keep anyone safe.