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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:44 pm

Diopolis wrote:
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OK, so have you watched the video? If so, explain what makes this a justified shooting.

Maybe we should wait on the results of the investigation.
We don't have all the facts here. We have a video that admittedly looks pretty bad.


Oh for fuck's sake, if you can see what happened and if we know he wasn't posing a threat, then just call it what it is, attempted murder.

But, then again, I wouldn't expect much sympathy for somebody who just dropped "negro" three times. It's not 1952 in Louisiana.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:45 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Maybe we should wait on the results of the investigation.
We don't have all the facts here. We have a video that admittedly looks pretty bad.


Oh for fuck's sake, if you can see what happened and if we know he wasn't posing a threat, then just call it what it is, attempted murder.

But, then again, I wouldn't expect much sympathy for somebody who just dropped "negro" three times. It's not 1952 in Louisiana.


Next thing you know, he'll be calling me Spanish.
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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:46 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Maybe we should wait on the results of the investigation.
We don't have all the facts here. We have a video that admittedly looks pretty bad.


Oh for fuck's sake, if you can see what happened and if we know he wasn't posing a threat, then just call it what it is, attempted murder.

But, then again, I wouldn't expect much sympathy for somebody who just dropped "negro" three times. It's not 1952 in Louisiana.

Pretty sure "negro" is just another way to say black, shouldn't really be considered a swear
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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:46 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Oh for fuck's sake, if you can see what happened and if we know he wasn't posing a threat, then just call it what it is, attempted murder.

But, then again, I wouldn't expect much sympathy for somebody who just dropped "negro" three times. It's not 1952 in Louisiana.


Next thing you know, he'll be calling me Spanish.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:49 pm

Solvokina wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Oh for fuck's sake, if you can see what happened and if we know he wasn't posing a threat, then just call it what it is, attempted murder.

But, then again, I wouldn't expect much sympathy for somebody who just dropped "negro" three times. It's not 1952 in Louisiana.

Pretty sure "negro" is just another way to say black, shouldn't really be considered a swear


It's a slur here in the US.
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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:49 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Pretty sure "negro" is just another way to say black, shouldn't really be considered a swear


It's a slur here in the US.

Interesting
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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:57 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Oh for fuck's sake, if you can see what happened and if we know he wasn't posing a threat, then just call it what it is, attempted murder.

But, then again, I wouldn't expect much sympathy for somebody who just dropped "negro" three times. It's not 1952 in Louisiana.


Next thing you know, he'll be calling me Spanish.

I'm both, do I get an extra slur?
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:02 pm

Looks like he was armed with a blade from newer angles.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:03 pm

Nazeroth wrote:Looks like he was armed with a blade from newer angles.

Link?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:07 pm

Vassenor wrote:Jacob Blake wasn’t committing any crime. Instead of asking why he didn’t comply, ask why an officer who was called to the scene for two white women fighting somehow shifted his attention to this Black man, drew his gun on him, and shot him seven times in the back.

I think we know why.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:08 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Jacob Blake wasn’t committing any crime. Instead of asking why he didn’t comply, ask why an officer who was called to the scene for two white women fighting somehow shifted his attention to this Black man, drew his gun on him, and shot him seven times in the back.

I think we know why.

Gender, given the women in the altercation also appear to be black, and thus they’re all the same race?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:17 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:Looks like he was armed with a blade from newer angles.

Link?

You making any progress with that link? It's pretty easy to copy a url and paste it here. I'm chomping at the bit to see this blade that the guy had.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:38 pm

Whatever excuses comes up, I can't imagine there'd ever be a reason to shoot a guy 7 times.

Having watched the video, the cop(s) just seem incredibly incompetent. Am I seeing it wrong or is one of them even holding his gun in a side grip at some point?

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:42 pm

Shooting someone 7 times in the back is horrible and the US needs cop reform now.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:44 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Shooting someone 7 times in the back is horrible and the US needs cop reform now.

What's an acceptable number of times to shoot someone in the back?

Asking for a friend.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:46 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Shooting someone 7 times in the back is horrible and the US needs cop reform now.

first we gotta stop those unions from funding politicians to enact laws that stop police from being investigated.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:48 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Shooting someone 7 times in the back is horrible and the US needs cop reform now.

What's an acceptable number of times to shoot someone in the back?

Asking for a friend.

I think it was set at six, because the rule was set when revolvers were the predominant handgun. They figured if you reload and do it again then it's just not acceptable.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:49 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Shooting someone 7 times in the back is horrible and the US needs cop reform now.

What's an acceptable number of times to shoot someone in the back?

Asking for a friend.

Depending on what you're shooting, between 0-1 times I'd say.

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:57 pm

Vassenor wrote:Jacob Blake wasn’t committing any crime. Instead of asking why he didn’t comply, ask why an officer who was called to the scene for two white women fighting somehow shifted his attention to this Black man, drew his gun on him, and shot him seven times in the back.

The cops don't know he was not committing a crime until they get statements from everyone.
It was a domestic disturbance following states the male present is most likely the suspect.

Yes in this case he was just a good Samaritan but the police wont know that until they get statements.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:57 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Jacob Blake wasn’t committing any crime. Instead of asking why he didn’t comply, ask why an officer who was called to the scene for two white women fighting somehow shifted his attention to this Black man, drew his gun on him, and shot him seven times in the back.

The cops don't know he was not committing a crime until they get statements from everyone.
It was a domestic disturbance following states the male present is most likely the suspect.

Yes in this case he was just a good Samaritan but the police wont know that until they get statements.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:58 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Shooting someone 7 times in the back is horrible and the US needs cop reform now.

What's an acceptable number of times to shoot someone in the back?

Asking for a friend.

They key is to make it an even number. Six is good, seven is bad, eight is good, etc.

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:01 pm

Galloism wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:The cops don't know he was not committing a crime until they get statements from everyone.
It was a domestic disturbance following states the male present is most likely the suspect.

Yes in this case he was just a good Samaritan but the police wont know that until they get statements.

Duluth model strikes again.


Yes if you are a male and you are subject to domestic abuse you better have a recording or you are going to jail when the police are called.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:02 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Jacob Blake wasn’t committing any crime. Instead of asking why he didn’t comply, ask why an officer who was called to the scene for two white women fighting somehow shifted his attention to this Black man, drew his gun on him, and shot him seven times in the back.

The cops don't know he was not committing a crime until they get statements from everyone.
It was a domestic disturbance following states the male present is most likely the suspect.

Yes in this case he was just a good Samaritan but the police wont know that until they get statements.

Gonna be honest "follow the guy like fucking zombies" in an interesting crime-fighting tactic.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:03 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Shooting someone 7 times in the back is horrible and the US needs cop reform now.

What's an acceptable number of times to shoot someone in the back?

Asking for a friend.

Semi automatic or revolver.

Shooting off 7 rounds in the heat of the moment with a semi auto is pretty common. I would honestly be more likely to find intent with one clean shot compared to 7 hasty shots.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:10 pm

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Dude, not everyone who disagrees with you is a leftist, this is just really poorly done red-baiting.
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