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Postby Senkaku » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:41 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
San Lumen wrote: No one has called her that.

How have Democrats removed opposition in urban centers? The mayor and city council and anyone else in chosen in citywide elections won their elections freely and fairly.


they offer welfare and create a dependent sub-class to support them, that's how, its the modern democratic plantation.

I want you to explain to me how you think the process of “getting welfare” works for, say, a working single mom with two kids lol
are the elections free? Yes, but heavily influenced to tip the scales.

I need to call poison control for my critical case of irony poisoning

but that goes back to "You deserve what you vote for" they freely and fairly voted for their own "oppression"

do you actually know any Black people? I’m simply asking because the “they”s are getting to be a little much lol
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:41 pm

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and I didn't say it was a good thing.

thousands of children getting lead poisining is NOT comparable to the multiple thousands DEAD and counting in Dem cities TO THIS DAY

so you can sit their and guilt trip with " but think of the children" to push your agenda all day, it's not going to work.

But that matter of a fact that it is though, both of the situations are awful, and why do you keep on bringing up Dem cities, there are Republican cities that have issues with violence but I guess you also got to push you agenda.


Republican cities are nowhere near the same league of criminal activity, gang violence and death that many of these others cities have. They are not even in the same league of problems for the most part.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:41 pm

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Mannixa Prime wrote:Are you?

Very, that statement just made me worried for your health for a bit

Care to explain your arrogant statement?
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:43 pm

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What’s your evidence for such a claim?

How are the elections heavily influenced? Think about your answer as I work as the polls when there are elections. I know election law.

How are they voting for their oppression? What are republicans offering them?



Well if you vote democrat then those democrats enact policies that result in the mass incarceration of your people who do you have to blame?

You gave them your consent to be governed in that manner. It's that simple.

it's why i oppose gun control among other things because I don't want to consent to the state stepping on me.

Are you saying black people are racist against themselves? Baltimore’s soon to he next mayor Brandon Scott is racist against himself? You can’t be seriously suggesting that.

Governed in what manner? How are the elections influenced? You didn’t give specifics.

Republicans have ignored places like Milwaukee and Baltimore for years. What incentive is there to vote for a Republican when they have largely shown they don’t care about certain places?
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:43 pm

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Senkaku wrote:Was there like a massive war or something that I missed or are we counting every murder victim in every city across America since the 80s lol

Thousands of children getting lead poisoning in a short window of time in the same city is in fact a bigger deal than the occasional mugging in every city in the US for the last however many decades lol


My “agenda” that kids shouldn’t get lead poisoning and cops shouldn’t shoot people seven times in the back..?


is that what you call places like Chicago and Balitmore, the "occassional mugging" ?

they don't call it "chiraq" for nothing

Are you under the impression that most cities in the US are, in most areas, similar to the South Side...? And that the violence on the South Side is entirely the fault of the city’s current leaders..?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:44 pm

The claim that people should wait until all the information is revealed should lead to pressure to release the bodycam videos of the cops. They will either condemn or exonerate them. Seems simple to me.

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:45 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The claim that people should wait until all the information is revealed should lead to pressure to release the bodycam videos of the cops. They will either condemn or exonerate them. Seems simple to me.


they should release all information immediatly lest we have the unjustified bullshit that occur ed after Floyd

btw, they will riot and murder again after the officer dosn't get a murder charge
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:45 pm

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New Sriker wrote:But that matter of a fact that it is though, both of the situations are awful, and why do you keep on bringing up Dem cities, there are Republican cities that have issues with violence but I guess you also got to push you agenda.


Republican cities are nowhere near the same league of criminal activity, gang violence and death that many of these others cities have. They are not even in the same league of problems for the most part.

This feels like the Chinese room test except the computer is just regurgitating Fox News talking points that don’t even have their evocative anecdotes anymore
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:46 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Republican cities are nowhere near the same league of criminal activity, gang violence and death that many of these others cities have. They are not even in the same league of problems for the most part.

This feels like the Chinese room test except the computer is just regurgitating Fox News talking points that don’t even have their evocative anecdotes anymore


can you show me comparable crime stats for Republican led vs Democrat led cities?
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Postby Outer Acharet » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:46 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The claim that people should wait until all the information is revealed should lead to pressure to release the bodycam videos of the cops. They will either condemn or exonerate them. Seems simple to me.

Yep.
Accountability is important for any organization entrusted with power over the public. You can't hold people accountable with limited information.

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Postby New Sriker » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:46 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:
New Sriker wrote:Very, that statement just made me worried for your health for a bit

Care to explain your arrogant statement?

Not really that arrogant, it just doesn't make much sense to say people angry at a corrupt system are whining and saying that is somehow cartoonish to think that the government can be racist, then there is the thing about telling people to leave America if they are afraid of the police. It made me confused since you do claim to be a progressive

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:46 pm

Outer Acharet wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The claim that people should wait until all the information is revealed should lead to pressure to release the bodycam videos of the cops. They will either condemn or exonerate them. Seems simple to me.

Yep.
Accountability is important for any organization entrusted with power over the public. You can't hold people accountable with limited information.


that didn't stop the madness in Wisconsin last night.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:47 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The claim that people should wait until all the information is revealed should lead to pressure to release the bodycam videos of the cops. They will either condemn or exonerate them. Seems simple to me.


they should release all information immediatly lest we have the unjustified bullshit that occur ed after Floyd

btw, they will riot and murder again after the officer dosn't get a murder charge


Oh, you can see my posts. What crimes had the shot guy been convicted of?

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:47 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Senkaku wrote:This feels like the Chinese room test except the computer is just regurgitating Fox News talking points that don’t even have their evocative anecdotes anymore


can you show me comparable crime stats for Republican led vs Democrat led cities?

I was assuming you had some, since you were making a case? But yes, smaller exurban communities do tend to have a smaller number of crimes than large urban centers, I can read a population density map :p
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Postby Outer Acharet » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:48 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
can you show me comparable crime stats for Republican led vs Democrat led cities?

I was assuming you had some, since you were making a case? But yes, smaller exurban communities do tend to have a smaller number of crimes than large urban centers, I can read a population density map :p

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:48 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
can you show me comparable crime stats for Republican led vs Democrat led cities?

I was assuming you had some, since you were making a case? But yes, smaller exurban communities do tend to have a smaller number of crimes than large urban centers, I can read a population density map :p


can you read crime per capita?
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Postby Outer Acharet » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:49 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I was assuming you had some, since you were making a case? But yes, smaller exurban communities do tend to have a smaller number of crimes than large urban centers, I can read a population density map :p


can you read crime per capita?

Poverty motivates crime, this is a well-known fact. Crime would be higher per capita in urban centers.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:50 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The claim that people should wait until all the information is revealed should lead to pressure to release the bodycam videos of the cops. They will either condemn or exonerate them. Seems simple to me.


they should release all information immediatly lest we have the unjustified bullshit that occur ed after Floyd

If shooting someone seven times in the back or standing on their neck for nine minutes isn’t trying to murder them, what is? What, in your view, makes something a murder? Is it simply the absence of a badge, or is it the victim being someone you view as more deserving?
btw, they will riot and murder again after the officer dosn't get a murder charge

Well, I assume attempted murder, since he’s still alive
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:50 pm

Outer Acharet wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
can you read crime per capita?

Poverty motivates crime, this is a well-known fact. Crime would be higher per capita in urban centers.


agreed, so why are urban areas have so much damn poverty and why is it that after decades of Democrat control this hasn't been fixed or adressed?
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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:50 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The claim that people should wait until all the information is revealed should lead to pressure to release the bodycam videos of the cops. They will either condemn or exonerate them. Seems simple to me.

There is no bodycam footage to release because the Kenosha PD does not wear bodycams
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:50 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I was assuming you had some, since you were making a case? But yes, smaller exurban communities do tend to have a smaller number of crimes than large urban centers, I can read a population density map :p


can you read crime per capita?

Do you honestly believe there is no systematic bias in places like Omaha, Oklahoma City and Jacksonville? All cities with Republican mayors? I’d like an answer to my rebuttal to you above as well

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:51 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
they should release all information immediatly lest we have the unjustified bullshit that occur ed after Floyd

If shooting someone seven times in the back or standing on their neck for nine minutes isn’t trying to murder them, what is? What, in your view, makes something a murder? Is it simply the absence of a badge, or is it the victim being someone you view as more deserving?
btw, they will riot and murder again after the officer dosn't get a murder charge

Well, I assume attempted murder, since he’s still alive


im talking about floyd in that case
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:51 pm

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Mannixa Prime wrote:Care to explain your arrogant statement?

Not really that arrogant, it just doesn't make much sense to say people angry at a corrupt system are whining and saying that is somehow cartoonish to think that the government can be racist, then there is the thing about telling people to leave America if they are afraid of the police. It made me confused since you do claim to be a progressive

It is arrogant, if your response is the fake ass “are you ok” your not being genuine in your argument. I disagree with you and I’m sure your “ok”.

Corruption and racism are two different things. I am against neoliberal capitalism which defines America, a system which attacks people of all races.

I’m an actual progressive who cares about the environment, wealth inequality, social service, lgbt rights etc

I don’t fall for fake corporate media outrage designed to gather attention from the woke white crowd.

I’m Black and I can confidently say racist thought is the bottom one hundred on our list of problems as a planet.

It’s just easier to be woke on social media
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:52 pm

Kowani wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The claim that people should wait until all the information is revealed should lead to pressure to release the bodycam videos of the cops. They will either condemn or exonerate them. Seems simple to me.

There is no bodycam footage to release because the Kenosha PD does not wear bodycams



Well that is a definite problem, all police should wear body cams for the benefit of citizens and police.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:52 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Outer Acharet wrote:Poverty motivates crime, this is a well-known fact. Crime would be higher per capita in urban centers.


agreed, so why are urban areas have so much damn poverty and why is it that after decades of Democrat control this hasn't been fixed or adressed?

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