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Postby US-SSR » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
US-SSR wrote:Breaking news: Jacob Blake, paralized from 7 police bullets in his back, is shackled to his hospital bed. W. T. F. Is it to prevent the cops shooting him some more if he jumps up and runs away again? W. T. Fucking. F.


Entirely standard procedure.


The response to which should be to DEFUND THE POLICE. Do you believe, even for a minute, a paralyzed white man would be shackled to a hospital bed?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:51 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Entirely standard procedure.


The response to which should be to DEFUND THE POLICE. Do you believe, even for a minute, a paralyzed white man would be shackled to a hospital bed?


Yes. Every criminal who ends up in the hospital is shackled to the bed.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:51 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
US-SSR wrote:Breaking news: Jacob Blake, paralized from 7 police bullets in his back, is shackled to his hospital bed. W. T. F. Is it to prevent the cops shooting him some more if he jumps up and runs away again? W. T. Fucking. F.


Entirely standard procedure.

The guy is parallelized. He can't just get up and walk away. This is just silly.

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Postby Gravlen » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:53 am

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Galloism wrote:Not exactly. He shouldn't have even been there. Riots are no places for kids. This whole thing is retarded, and he was in way over his head.

But, and this is important to the actual legal part of this, he was complying with Wisconsin's duty to retreat from violent confrontation to the literal best of his ability, while his attacker was pursuing him and attempting to prevent him from retreating from said violent confrontation in direct violation of Wisconsin law.

Someone here is the aggressor, and it's not the hispanic kid.

I more or less fall in with the "being a dumbass doesn't abrogate your right to self defense, but it's still dumb" crowd, but didn't he show up to the protest as a part of a group(of mostly adults) which he got separated from? Wouldn't that mean there's a relevant question of why these people brought him to a protest?
In any case if he wants to be a dumbass he should look for bigfoot. But a seventeen year old certainly seems to have shown up with an adult who was supposedly responsible for his behavior.

I've seen some claims that his mother drove him up to Wisconsin, but I haven't yet seen it confirmed.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
US-SSR wrote:Breaking news: Jacob Blake, paralized from 7 police bullets in his back, is shackled to his hospital bed. W. T. F. Is it to prevent the cops shooting him some more if he jumps up and runs away again? W. T. Fucking. F.


Entirely standard procedure.

Feels like this standard procedure needs to be revisited when it comes to patients who literally can't walk.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 am

Galloism wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Entirely standard procedure.

Feels like this standard procedure needs to be revisited when it comes to patients who literally can't walk.


I wouldn't disagree.
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:58 am

Gravlen wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I more or less fall in with the "being a dumbass doesn't abrogate your right to self defense, but it's still dumb" crowd, but didn't he show up to the protest as a part of a group(of mostly adults) which he got separated from? Wouldn't that mean there's a relevant question of why these people brought him to a protest?
In any case if he wants to be a dumbass he should look for bigfoot. But a seventeen year old certainly seems to have shown up with an adult who was supposedly responsible for his behavior.

I've seen some claims that his mother drove him up to Wisconsin, but I haven't yet seen it confirmed.

I haven't heard that particular claim, but I've never heard any of the dozen or so versions of the story which don't indicate he showed up in the company of adults, whom he was later separated from.
This is still dumb, but it's not the "show up alone and opencarrying to counterprotest a riot" level dumb. Moreover, it's the kind of dumb we would expect an otherwise reasonable seventeen year old to do- going along with what the adults around you are doing is, well, kind of what teenagers are supposed to do.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Entirely standard procedure.

Feels like this standard procedure needs to be revisited when it comes to patients who literally can't walk.


I suppose someone could put him in a wheelchair a d wheel him out of the hospital if he weren't handcuffed.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:07 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:Feels like this standard procedure needs to be revisited when it comes to patients who literally can't walk.


I suppose someone could put him in a wheelchair a d wheel him out of the hospital if he weren't handcuffed.

So wheel the whole bed out then.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:19 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:Feels like this standard procedure needs to be revisited when it comes to patients who literally can't walk.


I suppose someone could put him in a wheelchair a d wheel him out of the hospital if he weren't handcuffed.

I'd say the risk of that is pretty damn low.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:21 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I more or less fall in with the "being a dumbass doesn't abrogate your right to self defense, but it's still dumb" crowd, but didn't he show up to the protest as a part of a group(of mostly adults) which he got separated from? Wouldn't that mean there's a relevant question of why these people brought him to a protest?
In any case if he wants to be a dumbass he should look for bigfoot. But a seventeen year old certainly seems to have shown up with an adult who was supposedly responsible for his behavior.

I've seen some claims that his mother drove him up to Wisconsin, but I haven't yet seen it confirmed.

Incidentally, if this is true (i've seen the same claims), while Kyle may be guilty of little to nothing, his mother is definitely guilty of child endangerment.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:37 pm

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Galloism wrote:The guy who was being aggressively pursued by the man who threw the bag at him while he was trying to escape the confrontation, then lunged at his gun.

Yes. Most notably a reminder that the twitter ""report"" by an anti antifa twitter account was wrong. It was a bag not a Molotov. This is a reminder not to trust anti sjw echo chambers on social media or any echo chambers social media regardless of political standings. They are cancer on democracy and will lie to create a false version of events.

Will the so called ""law and order"" president pardon the young man who under state law shouldn't have had a gun in the first place?
If he does he is even more of a hypocrite (more beacuse of the illegally spent defense money) If he doesn't he will be seen as anti second amendment.

Also shouldn't this go on another thread as this one is about the man who was shot 7 times in the back by asshole cops?


He very well might be able to own/hold a rifle.

Also, it doesn't matter that it's a bag. He wasn't shot for throwing a bag. He was shot for aggressively pursuing someone who was fleeing, and didn't shoot until they literally tripped and couldn't flee anymore.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:37 pm

Kyle Rittenhouse's extradition has been delayed a month.
https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/local/ ... 6acd8.html

Public Defender requested to give him time hire a private attorney to fight extradition.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:38 pm

US-SSR wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Entirely standard procedure.


The response to which should be to DEFUND THE POLICE. Do you believe, even for a minute, a paralyzed white man would be shackled to a hospital bed?


Yes?
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:39 pm

From the Tweets:

Jacob Blake's attorney just told WISN-12 News Terry Sater the felony warrant against Blake has just been vacated, handcuffs removed in his hospital bed, and the deputies have left his room at Froedtert Hospital in Wauwatosa.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:40 pm

Gravlen wrote:From the Tweets:

Jacob Blake's attorney just told WISN-12 News Terry Sater the felony warrant against Blake has just been vacated, handcuffs removed in his hospital bed, and the deputies have left his room at Froedtert Hospital in Wauwatosa.

Good news.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:54 pm

US-SSR wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Entirely standard procedure.


The response to which should be to DEFUND THE POLICE. Do you believe, even for a minute, a paralyzed white man would be shackled to a hospital bed?


The one who attacked the child should be.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I suppose someone could put him in a wheelchair a d wheel him out of the hospital if he weren't handcuffed.

I'd say the risk of that is pretty damn low.


Which was the point, sarcasm is tough via text.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:01 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:I'd say the risk of that is pretty damn low.


Which was the point, sarcasm is tough via text.

Sorry.
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Postby Rusozak » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Gravlen wrote:From the Tweets:

Jacob Blake's attorney just told WISN-12 News Terry Sater the felony warrant against Blake has just been vacated, handcuffs removed in his hospital bed, and the deputies have left his room at Froedtert Hospital in Wauwatosa.


Have they seriously had a cop in the room watching him the whole time until now?
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:34 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Galloism wrote:The guy who was being aggressively pursued by the man who threw the bag at him while he was trying to escape the confrontation, then lunged at his gun.

Yes. Most notably a reminder that the twitter ""report"" by an anti antifa twitter account was wrong. It was a bag not a Molotov. This is a reminder not to trust anti sjw echo chambers on social media or any echo chambers social media regardless of political standings. They are cancer on democracy and will lie to create a false version of events.

Will the so called ""law and order"" president pardon the young man who under state law shouldn't have had a gun in the first place?
If he does he is even more of a hypocrite (more beacuse of the illegally spent defense money) If he doesn't he will be seen as anti second amendment.

Also shouldn't this go on another thread as this one is about the man who was shot 7 times in the back by asshole cops?


If during a riot in the middle of the night I throw a flaming object at you, it would be pretty reasonable for you to assume it was a Molotov cocktail.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:34 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Gravlen wrote:From the Tweets:

Jacob Blake's attorney just told WISN-12 News Terry Sater the felony warrant against Blake has just been vacated, handcuffs removed in his hospital bed, and the deputies have left his room at Froedtert Hospital in Wauwatosa.


Have they seriously had a cop in the room watching him the whole time until now?


Don't know an outside agency was brought in to secure him.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:36 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Entirely standard procedure.


The response to which should be to DEFUND THE POLICE. Do you believe, even for a minute, a paralyzed white man would be shackled to a hospital bed?


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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:46 pm

Trying to track down a news link, but it seems the rifle in question belonged to a friend that lived in town as stated by kyle, so it would seem kyle came across the state line unarmed.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:01 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Trying to track down a news link, but it seems the rifle in question belonged to a friend that lived in town as stated by kyle, so it would seem kyle came across the state line unarmed.


So someone else needs arresting for illegally transferring a rifle to a minor?

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