Violence Outbreak in Kenosha WI

[Galloism]

Here is a video of a dumpster fire being put out and people yelling at the militia people. Including the shoot me Nword guy who Kyle later shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9csfZQku9Bw

Though I do not see Kyle.

I do see Kyle with a fire extinguisher here though.
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1299804984926564352

So while I understand you concern with the source. The problem we have is normal sources of the news are not reporting these facts. Because right now I am telling you this kid is getting acquitted and people who depend on regular sources of news like CNN are going to think it is BS and riot.

These facts will go a long way in diffusing the post acquittal tensions. But you can only get this from right wing nut job news right now.

Hmmmm? Well? It could also be the “left wing” sites don’t see it fitting the time line. Taken from a different incident. Not fitting the narrative. If that is the case they should be called out on it by “legitimate” people and sites. A site known for conspiracies, propaganda, and questionable sources to attack liberal/leftists only taints the evidence.

I’m not sure this will be properly investigated. The Trumpests have latched onto it and are declaring the kid a hero. He isn’t. A hero is person like the Nurses who stayed in Louisiana hospital to take care of 19 babies who couldn’t be moved when Laura hit.

Anway.....

Id like to once again agree the kid isn’t a hero.

Nor is he a murderer, or terrorist.

He’s an idiot in a place he shouldn’t be, who was targeted by a predator, set upon by a mob, and somehow managed to live long enough to face unjust charges over it.

[Grinning Dragon]

Hmmmm? Not really a good site. Noted for extreme right wing, propaganda, conspiracies, and lack of transparency.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/information-liberation/

There are valid questions:

1) What led up to the incident.
2) What was said on the call he made.
3) Why was the kid left alone? If I remember right one of the videos; he said if something goes down he was supposed to move away it and let the others deal with it.

Anyway.

Here is a video of a dumpster fire being put out and people yelling at the militia people. Including the shoot me Nword guy who Kyle later shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9csfZQku9Bw

Though I do not see Kyle.

I do see Kyle with a fire extinguisher here though.
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1299804984926564352

So while I understand you concern with the source. The problem we have is normal sources of the news are not reporting these facts. Because right now I am telling you this kid is getting acquitted and people who depend on regular sources of news like CNN are going to think it is BS and riot.

These facts will go a long way in diffusing the post acquittal tensions. But you can only get this from right wing nut job news right now.

LOL at the parasites all pissed off that their dumpster fire got put out.
"Fuck you, why did you do that?" Well duh, it was on fire you inbred cunt! Should have been the reply.

So because of this, is what set dimwit rosenbaum off and to single out kyle? If rosenbaum would have just let it go, he would still be alive.

[The Black Forrest]

Hmmmm? Well? It could also be the “left wing” sites don’t see it fitting the time line. Taken from a different incident. Not fitting the narrative. If that is the case they should be called out on it by “legitimate” people and sites. A site known for conspiracies, propaganda, and questionable sources to attack liberal/leftists only taints the evidence.

I’m not sure this will be properly investigated. The Trumpests have latched onto it and are declaring the kid a hero. He isn’t. A hero is person like the Nurses who stayed in Louisiana hospital to take care of 19 babies who couldn’t be moved when Laura hit.

Anway.....

Id like to once again agree the kid isn’t a hero.

Nor is he a murderer, or terrorist.

He’s an idiot in a place he shouldn’t be, who was targeted by a predator, set upon by a mob, and somehow managed to live long enough to face unjust charges over it.

Indeed.

Hey might not be an innocent kid either.

Somebody sent me a video via twitter. I looked it up a couple sites for verification. Apparently, Kyle was in an argument and sucker punches a girl. He does get a beat down. If it’s true, you would think the news would be all over it for being biased an all.

This one explains it’s reasoning:

https://thesource.com/2020/08/30/watch- ... -beatdown/

The source didn’t show up on the mediabias fact checker.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/video-ky ... hing-girl/

Dailydot registered as biased to left however has not failed fact checking.....

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-dot/

[Ifreann]

A truly excellent rebuttal.

No in all seriousness you know I'm right. Fascism is to the left what communism is to the right. A vaguely spooky sounding word that nobody actually understands and just slaps onto everything they dislike.

[Umberto Eco disliked that]

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Here is a video of a dumpster fire being put out and people yelling at the militia people. Including the shoot me Nword guy who Kyle later shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9csfZQku9Bw

Though I do not see Kyle.

I do see Kyle with a fire extinguisher here though.
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1299804984926564352

So while I understand you concern with the source. The problem we have is normal sources of the news are not reporting these facts. Because right now I am telling you this kid is getting acquitted and people who depend on regular sources of news like CNN are going to think it is BS and riot.

These facts will go a long way in diffusing the post acquittal tensions. But you can only get this from right wing nut job news right now.

Hmmmm? Well? It could also be the “left wing” sites don’t see it fitting the time line. Taken from a different incident. Not fitting the narrative. If that is the case they should be called out on it by “legitimate” people and sites. A site known for conspiracies, propaganda, and questionable sources to attack liberal/leftists only taints the evidence.

I’m not sure this will be properly investigated. The Trumpests have latched onto it and are declaring the kid a hero. He isn’t. A hero is person like the Nurses who stayed in Louisiana hospital to take care of 19 babies who couldn’t be moved when Laura hit.

Anway.....

And then there's people like me that watched the Ruptly uninteruppted newsfeed and heard an eyewitness testimony that "this one guy ran in with a rifle and a... fire extinguisher" and made it super-duper clear he was describing how Kyle got into the mess he is in now.

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Id like to once again agree the kid isn’t a hero.

Nor is he a murderer, or terrorist.

He’s an idiot in a place he shouldn’t be, who was targeted by a predator, set upon by a mob, and somehow managed to live long enough to face unjust charges over it.

Indeed.

Hey might not be an innocent kid either.

Somebody sent me a video via twitter. I looked it up a couple sites for verification. Apparently, Kyle was in an argument and sucker punches a girl. He does get a beat down. If it’s true, you would think the news would be all over it for being biased an all.

This one explains it’s reasoning:

https://thesource.com/2020/08/30/watch- ... -beatdown/

The source didn’t show up on the mediabias fact checker.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/video-ky ... hing-girl/

Dailydot registered as biased to left however has not failed fact checking.....

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-dot/

I never quite figured out how his white T-shirt magicly transformed into a black hoodie in that video.

[Loben III]

Id like to once again agree the kid isn’t a hero.

Nor is he a murderer, or terrorist.

He’s an idiot in a place he shouldn’t be, who was targeted by a predator, set upon by a mob, and somehow managed to live long enough to face unjust charges over it.

Indeed.

Hey might not be an innocent kid either.

Somebody sent me a video via twitter. I looked it up a couple sites for verification. Apparently, Kyle was in an argument and sucker punches a girl. He does get a beat down. If it’s true, you would think the news would be all over it for being biased an all.

This one explains it’s reasoning:

https://thesource.com/2020/08/30/watch- ... -beatdown/

The source didn’t show up on the mediabias fact checker.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/video-ky ... hing-girl/

Dailydot registered as biased to left however has not failed fact checking.....

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-dot/

oh he punched a girl?

what was the argument about?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Hot take: there's nothing inherently wrong with punching a girl in the head and nobody should really care, everyone's been in a fight or two at that age

[Galloism]

Indeed.

Hey might not be an innocent kid either.

Somebody sent me a video via twitter. I looked it up a couple sites for verification. Apparently, Kyle was in an argument and sucker punches a girl. He does get a beat down. If it’s true, you would think the news would be all over it for being biased an all.

This one explains it’s reasoning:

https://thesource.com/2020/08/30/watch- ... -beatdown/

The source didn’t show up on the mediabias fact checker.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/video-ky ... hing-girl/

Dailydot registered as biased to left however has not failed fact checking.....

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-dot/

oh he punched a girl?

what was the argument about?

Honestly, who cares.

Rittenhouse punched a girl (allegedly).
Rosenbaum sexually abused a child, and assaulted guards a couple dozen times in prison. He also had some more recent alleged offenses I can’t recall.
Huber abused his domestic partner.
Grosskreutz is guilty of felony burglary.

And all this information is irrelevant to whether this was murder or self defense. All that matters is what happened that night on the street, sidewalk, and parking lot, who was the aggressor and who was the victim based on those events.

[Bear Stearns]

Hot take: there's nothing inherently wrong with punching a girl in the head and nobody should really care, everyone's been in a fight or two at that age

I distrust people who have never been in a fight before. I have both delivered and received several ass whoopings.

[Tolopel]

Great. Just great.

[The Black Forrest]

Indeed.

Hey might not be an innocent kid either.

Somebody sent me a video via twitter. I looked it up a couple sites for verification. Apparently, Kyle was in an argument and sucker punches a girl. He does get a beat down. If it’s true, you would think the news would be all over it for being biased an all.

This one explains it’s reasoning:

https://thesource.com/2020/08/30/watch- ... -beatdown/

The source didn’t show up on the mediabias fact checker.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/video-ky ... hing-girl/

Dailydot registered as biased to left however has not failed fact checking.....

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-dot/

oh he punched a girl?

what was the argument about?

It wasn’t explained and it’s not something that’s a part of his murders. The only way it could be at play is if more stories like this come up and shows he is prone to violence.

It’s part of that character thing people are hung up on these days. One side paints him as a cool kid who believes in law and order and possibly wants to be a cop. The other side finds things like this fight which goes against that narrative.

[The Black Forrest]

Hot take: there's nothing inherently wrong with punching a girl in the head and nobody should really care, everyone's been in a fight or two at that age

Oh really? How many times have you sucker punched your gal from behind?

I have only been in fights with two girls. One in high school and the other in TKD.

I don’t remember the reason for the fight. I remember she smacked me a couple times. I used my larger frame and muscle to pin her to the ground until she stopped. I didn’t see the need to punch her.

The TKD gal was one of my instructors and she kicked the crap out of me all the time. Damn she was fast.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Hot take: there's nothing inherently wrong with punching a girl in the head and nobody should really care, everyone's been in a fight or two at that age

Oh really? How many times have you sucker punched your gal from behind?

I have only been in fights with two girls. One in high school and the other in TKD.

I don’t remember the reason for the fight. I remember she smacked me a couple times. I used my larger frame and muscle to pin her to the ground until she stopped. I didn’t see the need to punch her.

The TKD gal was one of my instructors and she kicked the crap out of me all the time. Damn she was fast.

I've never hit a girl I've dated but I did fully knock out some dumbass chick in high school. Yadda yadda equality etc etc.

It doesn't really say much about his character though. Pretty much everyone gets into fights at high school age.

[The Black Forrest]

Oh really? How many times have you sucker punched your gal from behind?

I have only been in fights with two girls. One in high school and the other in TKD.

I don’t remember the reason for the fight. I remember she smacked me a couple times. I used my larger frame and muscle to pin her to the ground until she stopped. I didn’t see the need to punch her.

The TKD gal was one of my instructors and she kicked the crap out of me all the time. Damn she was fast.

I've never hit a girl I've dated but I did fully knock out some dumbass chick in high school. Yadda yadda equality etc etc.

It doesn't really say much about his character though. Pretty much everyone gets into fights at high school age.

Hmmm? I disagree. I don’t know of too many people who respect people who sucker punch let alone a girl. A fight is one thing attacking somebody moving away....

[Greed and Death]

Here is a video of a dumpster fire being put out and people yelling at the militia people. Including the shoot me Nword guy who Kyle later shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9csfZQku9Bw

Though I do not see Kyle.

I do see Kyle with a fire extinguisher here though.
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1299804984926564352

So while I understand you concern with the source. The problem we have is normal sources of the news are not reporting these facts. Because right now I am telling you this kid is getting acquitted and people who depend on regular sources of news like CNN are going to think it is BS and riot.

These facts will go a long way in diffusing the post acquittal tensions. But you can only get this from right wing nut job news right now.

LOL at the parasites all pissed off that their dumpster fire got put out.
"Fuck you, why did you do that?" Well duh, it was on fire you inbred cunt! Should have been the reply.

So because of this, is what set dimwit rosenbaum off and to single out kyle? If rosenbaum would have just let it go, he would still be alive.

Fires and gas stations do not mix.

[Salus Maior]

I've never hit a girl I've dated but I did fully knock out some dumbass chick in high school. Yadda yadda equality etc etc.

It doesn't really say much about his character though. Pretty much everyone gets into fights at high school age.

Hmmm? I disagree. I don’t know of too many people who respect people who sucker punch let alone a girl. A fight is one thing attacking somebody moving away....

One thing is certain, nobody in this situation is doing any real thinking about their actions.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I've never hit a girl I've dated but I did fully knock out some dumbass chick in high school. Yadda yadda equality etc etc.

It doesn't really say much about his character though. Pretty much everyone gets into fights at high school age.

Hmmm? I disagree. I don’t know of too many people who respect people who sucker punch let alone a girl. A fight is one thing attacking somebody moving away....

There's a big difference between your generation and mine. I know pretty much nobody who has reservations about that stuff. Chivalry died a long time ago.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Hmmm? I disagree. I don’t know of too many people who respect people who sucker punch let alone a girl. A fight is one thing attacking somebody moving away....

Still, having watched the video fo the alleged punch, and knowing he was wearing the same green T-shirt when he was removing that graffitti... Not sure how one mistakens a tiny dude in a black hoodie for a big kid in a green T-shirt, but whatever.

Unless that video subtracts like 40 pounds.

Is kinda like that one time Antigr mistook me for Crookfur.

Still his private little hell is kinda like that Rick And Morty "20 minute Adventure" and is totes going to need a vacation and therapy after this.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Hmmm? I disagree. I don’t know of too many people who respect people who sucker punch let alone a girl. A fight is one thing attacking somebody moving away....

There's a big difference between your generation and mine. I know pretty much nobody who has reservations about that stuff. Chivalry died a long time ago.

You knocked a chick out for running her mouth? You probably shouldn't have told us that, it makes (the younger) you sound pretty bad.

[Washington Resistance Army]

There's a big difference between your generation and mine. I know pretty much nobody who has reservations about that stuff. Chivalry died a long time ago.

You knocked a chick out for running her mouth? You probably shouldn't have told us that, it makes (the younger) you sound pretty bad.

Oh no she initiated the hitting, I just responded in kind. But yes I do fully admit younger me was an atrocious person, I'm quite happy that I went from the jackass getting arrested to someone with actual skills who lives a decent enough life.

Hmmm? I disagree. I don’t know of too many people who respect people who sucker punch let alone a girl. A fight is one thing attacking somebody moving away....

Still, having watched the video fo the alleged punch, and knowing he was wearing the same green T-shirt when he was removing that graffitti... Not sure how one mistakens a tiny dude in a black hoodie for a big kid in a green T-shirt, but whatever.

Unless that video subtracts like 40 pounds.

Is kinda like that one time Antigr mistook me for Crookfur.

Also this lol. That video has to be way old or something cuz there's a serious weight discrepancy. Either that or it's someone else entirely.

[The Black Forrest]

Hmmm? I disagree. I don’t know of too many people who respect people who sucker punch let alone a girl. A fight is one thing attacking somebody moving away....

There's a big difference between your generation and mine. I know pretty much nobody who has reservations about that stuff. Chivalry died a long time ago.

Well? Not entirely dead yet. Even in the video you saw the guys who jumped Kyle and started beating him.

Equality is a bullshit argument in these matters. It depends on the situation and the people involved. Take an average 5’ 11’’ guy in decent shape and is getting slapped by a 5’4-8” woman. Does that warrant punching her in the face or sucker punching her if she walks away? Now, if she has a blade? Rules change. If she is built like Gina Carano (I love Cara Dune ) the rules change.

[Salus Maior]

There's a big difference between your generation and mine. I know pretty much nobody who has reservations about that stuff. Chivalry died a long time ago.

Well? Not entirely dead yet. Even in the video you saw the guys who jumped Kyle and started beating him.

Equality is a bullshit argument in these matters. It depends on the situation and the people involved. Take an average 5’ 11’’ guy in decent shape and is getting slapped by a 5’4-8” woman. Does that warrant punching her in the face or sucker punching her if she walks away? Now, if she has a blade? Rules change. If she is built like Gina Carano (I love Cara Dune ) the rules change.

It's not really sucker punching if someone has initiated hostility. If I struck you, and then turned my back to you and walked away, should I not expect that you would strike back?

If she did actually strike first, I really don't have a problem with her being struck back. Nobody should expect to get free hits on people, regardless of their weight or size.

If you don't have the weight or strength to fight someone, don't initiate an altercation with them. But you can't expect to attack someone and have no consequences to that.

[The Black Forrest]

Well? Not entirely dead yet. Even in the video you saw the guys who jumped Kyle and started beating him.

Equality is a bullshit argument in these matters. It depends on the situation and the people involved. Take an average 5’ 11’’ guy in decent shape and is getting slapped by a 5’4-8” woman. Does that warrant punching her in the face or sucker punching her if she walks away? Now, if she has a blade? Rules change. If she is built like Gina Carano (I love Cara Dune ) the rules change.

It's not really sucker punching if someone has initiated hostility. If I struck you, and then turned my back to you and walked away, should I not expect that you would strike back?

If she did actually strike first, I really don't have a problem with her being struck back. Nobody should expect to get free hits on people, regardless of their weight or size.

If you don't have the weight or strength to fight someone, don't initiate an altercation with them. But you can't expect to attack someone and have no consequences to that.

Fascinating.

I guess I am from another era or it’s the martial arts training. Maybe both.

If I have the clear advantage; I don’t seek to injure the other.

-edit- Nahh comment services no purpose.

[Salus Maior]

It's not really sucker punching if someone has initiated hostility. If I struck you, and then turned my back to you and walked away, should I not expect that you would strike back?

If she did actually strike first, I really don't have a problem with her being struck back. Nobody should expect to get free hits on people, regardless of their weight or size.

If you don't have the weight or strength to fight someone, don't initiate an altercation with them. But you can't expect to attack someone and have no consequences to that.

Fascinating.

I guess I am from another era or it’s the martial arts training. Maybe both.

If I have the clear advantage; I don’t seek to injure the other.

Hmmm? Aren’t you supposed to be Religous?

I am, and I don't believe in initiating physical conflict with people unless it's for a just reason. Self defense is a just reason.

I'm going to further criticize your position for a sec, and I'm going to sound harsh, but it's this sort of thinking which leads people to not take men seriously when they're in physically abusive relationships with women. Because you're implying that women can, in some cases apparently, strike and physically attack men and the man can't do anything about it, and if he does, he's in the wrong. That is enabling physical abuse.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Still, having watched the video fo the alleged punch, and knowing he was wearing the same green T-shirt when he was removing that graffitti... Not sure how one mistakens a tiny dude in a black hoodie for a big kid in a green T-shirt, but whatever.

Unless that video subtracts like 40 pounds.

Is kinda like that one time Antigr mistook me for Crookfur.

Also this lol. That video has to be way old or something cuz there's a serious weight discrepancy. Either that or it's someone else entirely.

Nah, a news article claims he was removing graffitti on the same day he did the shooty-shoot. So he was wearing the same shirty-shirt and hatty-hat (pictures to prove this).

The ones claiming he punched claimed he did that punchy-punch on the day of the graffitti removal and thus dressed and with the same build as during the shooty-shoot.

TBH, I think somebody is being dishonest for some ulterior motive.