Violence Outbreak in Kenosha WI

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Glad to see you think its alright there's a 17 year old boy carrying a gun and traveling several towns over for an excuse to kill black people, I mean "defend businesses."

Not saying he’s the smartest lad but he didn’t attack anyone.

My point is this. Is everyone listening?

The kid has a right to self defense. That being said, he's a retard for traveling to a violent riot several cities away to play hero, and now he's facing charges because he tried to play hero. He's lucky he isn't dead. I would prefer that local business owners defend their properties unless they specifically ask for help from out of town.

[South Odreria 2]

Would you have preferred that the other dude brain him with his skateboard?

I would prefer the kid stay his ass home where he belongs. Yes it was self defense, but it was a totally unnecessary confrontation that involved someone with a soldier complex traveling to a place he didnt even live in.

Yes, staying home would certainly have been more prudent.

[Trollgaard]

Not saying he’s the smartest lad but he didn’t attack anyone.

My point is this. Is everyone listening?

The kid has a right to self defense. That being said, he's a retard for traveling to a violent riot several cities away to play hero, and now he's facing charges because he tried to play hero. He's lucky he isn't dead. I would prefer that locap business owners defend their properties unless they specifically ask for help from out of town.

That's a fairly reasonable take, actually. However, the kid lived i heard 15 miles away or so. Maybe he should have stayed at home, but there's nothing wrong, and in fact everything admirable about people helping other and stopping a town from literally being torched.

[Ors Might]

Not saying he’s the smartest lad but he didn’t attack anyone.

My point is this. Is everyone listening?

The kid has a right to self defense. That being said, he's a retard for traveling to a violent riot several cities away to play hero, and now he's facing charges because he tried to play hero. He's lucky he isn't dead. I would prefer that local business owners defend their properties unless they specifically ask for help from out of town.

Entirely fair. The kid was dumb to go to the riot to defend local businesses, absolutely.

[Ifreann]

Shocked you weren't down there. You seem to be taking a sick enjoyment of people getting killed.

Would you have preferred that the other dude brain him with his skateboard?

Now that's someone who should get a medal. Sees people being shot and charges the shooter with the only thing he has to hand. He gave his life trying to defend others.

[Trollgaard]

Would you have preferred that the other dude brain him with his skateboard?

Now that's someone who should get a medal. Sees people being shot and charges the shooter with the only thing he has to hand. He gave his life trying to defend others.

Except the kid didn't just show up and start shooting. People attacked him. You seem to be getting hero and villain mixed up.

[Loben III]

Would you have preferred that the other dude brain him with his skateboard?

Now that's someone who should get a medal. Sees people being shot and charges the shooter with the only thing he has to hand. He gave his life trying to defend others.

too bad the other motherfucker had a gun.

[Ors Might]

My point is this. Is everyone listening?

The kid has a right to self defense. That being said, he's a retard for traveling to a violent riot several cities away to play hero, and now he's facing charges because he tried to play hero. He's lucky he isn't dead. I would prefer that locap business owners defend their properties unless they specifically ask for help from out of town.

That's a fairly reasonable take, actually. However, the kid lived i heard 15 miles away or so. Maybe he should have stayed at home, but there's nothing wrong, and in fact everything admirable about people helping other and stopping a town from literally being torched.

While there is something to admire in the intent to protect innocent people from losing their livelihoods, there is also something to admire in realizing and accepting that you aren’t remotely qualified for such a task and are more likely to only put yourself in danger.

[Ors Might]

Would you have preferred that the other dude brain him with his skateboard?

Now that's someone who should get a medal. Sees people being shot and charges the shooter with the only thing he has to hand. He gave his life trying to defend others.

Defend attempted assaulters from their would be victim, you mean.

[The Emerald Legion]

Not saying he’s the smartest lad but he didn’t attack anyone.

My point is this. Is everyone listening?

The kid has a right to self defense. That being said, he's a retard for traveling to a violent riot several cities away to play hero, and now he's facing charges because he tried to play hero. He's lucky he isn't dead. I would prefer that local business owners defend their properties unless they specifically ask for help from out of town.

How are local business owners meant to defend their properties, alone, against mobs made up of hundreds of people who themselves came from out of town?

[Trollgaard]

That's a fairly reasonable take, actually. However, the kid lived i heard 15 miles away or so. Maybe he should have stayed at home, but there's nothing wrong, and in fact everything admirable about people helping other and stopping a town from literally being torched.

While there is something to admire in the intent to protect innocent people from losing their livelihoods, there is also something to admire in realizing and accepting that you aren’t remotely qualified for such a task and are more likely to only put yourself in danger.

Another reasonable and valid point. But everyone is an amateur at some point. However, what the lad did, from what I know now, was perhaps foolish, but noble and brave. Hopefully he has a fair go in court and is proven innocent.

Fuck this situation just keeps getting worse!

[Borderlands of Rojava]

My point is this. Is everyone listening?

The kid has a right to self defense. That being said, he's a retard for traveling to a violent riot several cities away to play hero, and now he's facing charges because he tried to play hero. He's lucky he isn't dead. I would prefer that locap business owners defend their properties unless they specifically ask for help from out of town.

That's a fairly reasonable take, actually. However, the kid lived i heard 15 miles away or so. Maybe he should have stayed at home, but there's nothing wrong, and in fact everything admirable about people helping other and stopping a town from literally being torched.

Hes young. He should have stayed out of it.

And as I said, people should only go if they're asked to.

[Ors Might]

While there is something to admire in the intent to protect innocent people from losing their livelihoods, there is also something to admire in realizing and accepting that you aren’t remotely qualified for such a task and are more likely to only put yourself in danger.

Another reasonable and valid point. But everyone is an amateur at some point. However, what the lad did, from what I know now, was perhaps foolish, but noble and brave. Hopefully he has a fair go in court and is proven innocent.

Fuck this situation just keeps getting worse!

True, but until one isn’t an amateur, trying to take on such causes in such a way is reckless to the point where noble intent doesn’t matter all that much.

I also hope the kid gets found innocent. Regardless of how dumb he was to go to the riot in the first place, it’s pretty blatantly a case of self-defense.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

My point is this. Is everyone listening?

The kid has a right to self defense. That being said, he's a retard for traveling to a violent riot several cities away to play hero, and now he's facing charges because he tried to play hero. He's lucky he isn't dead. I would prefer that local business owners defend their properties unless they specifically ask for help from out of town.

How are local business owners meant to defend their properties, alone, against mobs made up of hundreds of people who themselves came from out of town?

You ever heard of the Roof Koreans?

[Ors Might]

How are local business owners meant to defend their properties, alone, against mobs made up of hundreds of people who themselves came from out of town?

You ever heard of the Roof Koreans?

Most business owners can only dream of reaching that level of based.

[The New California Republic]

...except this kid didn't do that, as the violence and unrest carried on regardless. The only difference made is that there were two bodies on the street.

He made an attempt, apparently.

Should be people be allowed to just roam the streets looting and burning as they see fit? Should people not stand up and tell em to fuck off?

And there are two bodies on the street because rioters tried to mob him and kill him.

Not when it involves children with guns who have delusions that they are The Law going to a different state to the scene of a riot.

[South Odreria 2]

That's a fairly reasonable take, actually. However, the kid lived i heard 15 miles away or so. Maybe he should have stayed at home, but there's nothing wrong, and in fact everything admirable about people helping other and stopping a town from literally being torched.

Hes young. He should have stayed out of it.

And as I said, people should only go if they're asked to.

How do we know his weirdo militia wasn’t asked to help?

[The Emerald Legion]

How are local business owners meant to defend their properties, alone, against mobs made up of hundreds of people who themselves came from out of town?

You ever heard of the Roof Koreans?

Being on a roof is definitely where you want to be when they molotov your business, apparently. When you have a handful of people trying to defend businesses against 100's, the best case scenario you're going to see for the business owner is going to look a lot worse than this. You're going to see a lot more bodies on the ground.

That's sub-optimal, instead you want a show of force that is scary and prevents conflict from arising. Defense through fear of force, not defense through force.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

You ever heard of the Roof Koreans?

Being on a roof is definitely where you want to be when they molotov your business, apparently. When you have a handful of people trying to defend businesses against 100's, the best case scenario you're going to see for the business owner is going to look a lot worse than this. You're going to see a lot more bodies on the ground.

That's sub-optimal, instead you want a show of force that is scary and prevents conflict from arising. Defense through fear of force, not defense through force.

My point is that we don't need gun nuts from out of town getting involved. There are plenty of locals who can and will stand up.

[Trollgaard]

He made an attempt, apparently.

Should be people be allowed to just roam the streets looting and burning as they see fit? Should people not stand up and tell em to fuck off?

And there are two bodies on the street because rioters tried to mob him and kill him.

Not when it involves children with guns who have delusions that they are The Law going to a different state to the scene of a riot.

Fairly hypocritical take to worry about crossing state lines/being in a different town when people from out of state/city came to riot and loot and burn.

[Ifreann]

Now that's someone who should get a medal. Sees people being shot and charges the shooter with the only thing he has to hand. He gave his life trying to defend others.

Except the kid didn't just show up and start shooting. People attacked him. You seem to be getting hero and villain mixed up.

Rittenhouse had already shot someone, and a bystander, who did not have the benefit of reading about the situation online the next night, tried to stop him from shooting anyone else. Where's the villainy?

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Now that's someone who should get a medal. Sees people being shot and charges the shooter with the only thing he has to hand. He gave his life trying to defend others.

too bad the other motherfucker had a gun.

Tragic indeed that this child was out armed in the street and not at home.

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Now that's someone who should get a medal. Sees people being shot and charges the shooter with the only thing he has to hand. He gave his life trying to defend others.

Defend attempted assaulters from their would be victim, you mean.

From what I've heard after police shootings, these kinds of decisions, to intervene and endanger oneself or to retreat, are made in fractions of a second, and thus rather a lot of leeway must be given.

[The New California Republic]

Not when it involves children with guns who have delusions that they are The Law going to a different state to the scene of a riot.

Fairly hypocritical take to worry about crossing state lines/being in a different town when people from out of state/city came to riot and loot and burn.

Odd that you basically ignored most of what I said and focused on the most inconsequential part.

[Trollgaard]

Hes young. He should have stayed out of it.

And as I said, people should only go if they're asked to.

How do we know his weirdo militia wasn’t asked to help?

Is his militia weird? Are there facts known about it?

[South Odreria 2]

Being on a roof is definitely where you want to be when they molotov your business, apparently. When you have a handful of people trying to defend businesses against 100's, the best case scenario you're going to see for the business owner is going to look a lot worse than this. You're going to see a lot more bodies on the ground.

That's sub-optimal, instead you want a show of force that is scary and prevents conflict from arising. Defense through fear of force, not defense through force.

My point is that we don't need gun nuts from out of town getting involved. There are plenty of locals who can and will stand up.

There clearly weren’t though.

[The Emerald Legion]

Now that's someone who should get a medal. Sees people being shot and charges the shooter with the only thing he has to hand. He gave his life trying to defend others.

Defend attempted assaulters from their would be victim, you mean.

Courage is Courage. Regardless of the cause to which it is given.