Violence Outbreak in Kenosha WI

[Nazeroth]

no but the same people who are crying about this problem are pro-democrat voters whom helped put these policies in place.

minorities, especially the black vote, has historically OVERWHELMINGLY went to the DNC whom made these policies.

so you get what you vote for and the black community can't really have a place to bitch about mass incarceration when they VOTED FOR IT

There's only two parties. Both support mass incarceration and FYI about half of blacks and latinos don't vote, so quit tryna victim blame.

Sounds like a personal problem

[Nazeroth]

JFK was awsome in my book

yeah he was

would be a hardcore republican by today standards

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I have no need to sympathize with violent rapists period.

his past matters because it directly comes into the decision making process of the officers, this is literally law enforcement 101.

So, here’s a thing to consider - he was charged with third degree sexual assault, which is defined here:

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statut ... 940/II/225

(3) Third degree sexual assault.
(a) Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony.
(b) Whoever has sexual contact in the manner described in sub. (5) (b) 2. or 3. with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony.

...

(b) “Sexual contact" means any of the following:

...


2. Intentional penile ejaculation of ejaculate or intentional emission of urine or feces by the defendant or, upon the defendant's instruction, by another person upon any part of the body clothed or unclothed of the complainant if that ejaculation or emission is either for the purpose of sexually degrading or sexually humiliating the complainant or for the purpose of sexually arousing or gratifying the defendant.
3. For the purpose of sexually degrading or humiliating the complainant or sexually arousing or gratifying the defendant, intentionally causing the complainant to ejaculate or emit urine or feces on any part of the defendant's body, whether clothed or unclothed.

Notably, in Wisconsin, it covers sex without consent with no violence or threat of violence (Those would be either first or second degree sexual assault) where the victim wasn’t incapacitated.

It also covers sexually degrading behavior, ie, ejaculating on the victim, forcing the victim to ejaculate, or urinating or pooping on the victim for the purposes of degrading the victim or gratifying self.

Based on the charges, he might be a rapist, but he’s precluded from being a violent rapist in the instance charged (even if guilty), and may not be a rapist at all if his crime was urinating on, ejaculating on, or throwing feces at the complainant. Not to mention he might even be not guilty.

They need to keep up the narrative that people who dont deserve to die are being murdered by police.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

There's only two parties. Both support mass incarceration and FYI about half of blacks and latinos don't vote, so quit tryna victim blame.

Sounds like a personal problem

Damned if they do, damned if they don't eh? So if they do vote for democrats they can't complain but if they choose not to they can't complain.

Thats pretty faulty logic. I won't even go into how you backpeddled on your claim that systemic racism doesn't exist.

[Fartsniffage]

So your earlier denial that you were saying “this is fine” was a lie because having it pointed out made you uncomfortable then?


Imagine being a public official dedicated to providing security for your community despite knowing it’s a dangerous job and thinking “I’d rather kill someone for no good reason than risk my own safety, despite the trauma it’ll cause his family and my entire community”

I think a violent rapist with a history of violent armed behavior is a pretty good reason.

I've asked you this a few times. What crimes had he been convicted of in the past?

[Outer Acharet]

yeah he was

would be a hardcore republican by today standards

On foreign policy, he was really right-leaning especially on the Reds, but on domestic policy he would be center or center-left. Supported a whole lot of social services.

Glad we can agree he was cool though

[Senkaku]

I have no need to sympathize with violent rapists period.

his past matters because it directly comes into the decision making process of the officers, this is literally law enforcement 101.

So, here’s a thing to consider - he was charged with third degree sexual assault, which is defined here:

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statut ... 940/II/225

(3) Third degree sexual assault.
(a) Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony.
(b) Whoever has sexual contact in the manner described in sub. (5) (b) 2. or 3. with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony.

...

(b) “Sexual contact" means any of the following:

...


2. Intentional penile ejaculation of ejaculate or intentional emission of urine or feces by the defendant or, upon the defendant's instruction, by another person upon any part of the body clothed or unclothed of the complainant if that ejaculation or emission is either for the purpose of sexually degrading or sexually humiliating the complainant or for the purpose of sexually arousing or gratifying the defendant.
3. For the purpose of sexually degrading or humiliating the complainant or sexually arousing or gratifying the defendant, intentionally causing the complainant to ejaculate or emit urine or feces on any part of the defendant's body, whether clothed or unclothed.

Notably, in Wisconsin, it covers sex without consent with no violence or threat of violence (Those would be either first or second degree sexual assault) where the victim wasn’t incapacitated.

It also covers sexually degrading behavior, ie, ejaculating on the victim, forcing the victim to ejaculate, or urinating or pooping on the victim for the purposes of degrading the victim or gratifying self.

Based on the charges, he might be a rapist, but he’s precluded from being a violent rapist in the instance charged (even if guilty), and may not be a rapist at all if his crime was urinating on, ejaculating on, or throwing feces at the complainant. Not to mention he might even be not guilty.

I mean, I think the point still stands that regardless of what he did, probably bad to be shooting him in the back

There's only two parties. Both support mass incarceration and FYI about half of blacks and latinos don't vote, so quit tryna victim blame.

Sounds like a personal problem

...really? A deeply flawed centuries old political system whose problems mean it fails to reflect the wishes of the people it rules over “sounds like a personal problem”? I feel like it’s actually almost definitionally an institutional one lol

[New Sriker]

There's only two parties. Both support mass incarceration and FYI about half of blacks and latinos don't vote, so quit tryna victim blame.

Sounds like a personal problem

What,so a system that is constantly fucking over a large amount of the populace is a personal problem, not to be rude but did you think before you wrote that or just go with it?

[Nazeroth]

Sounds like a personal problem

Damned if they do, damned if they don't eh? So if they do vote for democrats they can't complain but if they choose not to they can't complain.

Thats pretty faulty logic. I won't even go into how you backpeddled on your claim that systemic racism doesn't exist.

if you vote for your own "oppression" then you DESERVE IT

you saying that voting shouldn't matter now? You want dictatorship?

Nobody forced black people to vote democratic, if all black people voted for another party it would make a difference but no, they don't, they keep voting D for decades and bitch about Republicans for Democrat policies in Democrat cities with Democrat mayors.

[Nazeroth]

Sounds like a personal problem

What,so a system that is constantly fucking over a large amount of the populace is a personal problem, not to be rude but did you think before you wrote that or just go with it?

it only fucks over those who want to be fucked

[Ors Might]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't eh? So if they do vote for democrats they can't complain but if they choose not to they can't complain.

Thats pretty faulty logic. I won't even go into how you backpeddled on your claim that systemic racism doesn't exist.

if you vote for your own "oppression" then you DESERVE IT

you saying that voting shouldn't matter now? You want dictatorship?

Nobody forced black people to vote democratic, if all black people voted for another party it would make a different but no, they don't, they keep voting D for decades and bitch about Republicans for Democrat policies in Democrat cities with Democrat mayors.

I really don’t see how Republicans would have changed the problem of mass incarceration for the better.

[Galloism]

So, here’s a thing to consider - he was charged with third degree sexual assault, which is defined here:

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statut ... 940/II/225



Notably, in Wisconsin, it covers sex without consent with no violence or threat of violence (Those would be either first or second degree sexual assault) where the victim wasn’t incapacitated.

It also covers sexually degrading behavior, ie, ejaculating on the victim, forcing the victim to ejaculate, or urinating or pooping on the victim for the purposes of degrading the victim or gratifying self.

Based on the charges, he might be a rapist, but he’s precluded from being a violent rapist in the instance charged (even if guilty), and may not be a rapist at all if his crime was urinating on, ejaculating on, or throwing feces at the complainant. Not to mention he might even be not guilty.

I mean, I think the point still stands that regardless of what he did, probably bad to be shooting him in the back

Well yes, but Nazaroth kept throwing out “violent rapist”, which even if the charges against him are 100% true, is at least giving an incorrect impression, if not outright contrary to the facts. It’s just a pejorative to try and minimize.... well, shooting a man 7 times in the back in front of his kids.

I’m just waiting for him to acknowledge his misrepresentation.

[Nazeroth]

if you vote for your own "oppression" then you DESERVE IT

you saying that voting shouldn't matter now? You want dictatorship?

Nobody forced black people to vote democratic, if all black people voted for another party it would make a different but no, they don't, they keep voting D for decades and bitch about Republicans for Democrat policies in Democrat cities with Democrat mayors.

I really don’t see how Republicans would have changed the problem of mass incarceration for the better.

we wouldn't know would we? Most of these violent cities with mass incarceration have been ran by democrats for DECADES

[San Lumen]

Cowardice is a bad thing tho

So is being a drama queen!

There will not be a mass exodus of Black people or any African American because there isn’t a huge problem.

It’s just played up by the corporate media.

What forest have you been in the middle of?

Maybe if you didn’t watch right wing propaganda you’d see how things are in the real world

[New Sriker]

What,so a system that is constantly fucking over a large amount of the populace is a personal problem, not to be rude but did you think before you wrote that or just go with it?

it only fucks over those who want to be fucked

Are you fucking jesting me or are you for real, I can't tell because your takes so far make me want to laugh if fake but if real, man I'm sorry for ya

[Nazeroth]

So is being a drama queen!

There will not be a mass exodus of Black people or any African American because there isn’t a huge problem.

It’s just played up by the corporate media.

What forest have you been in the middle of?

Maybe if you didn’t watch right wing propaganda you’d see how things are in the real world

that's hilarious considering MSM is dominated by leftists whom shaped the narrative and stoke violence.

[Mannixa Prime]

-Whines about mass incarceration and a corrupt system

- Votes for the same two parties

-The government is an evil cartoon level racist organization but take away the guns and continue living here.


Wow you can’t beat that logic!

[Ors Might]

I really don’t see how Republicans would have changed the problem of mass incarceration for the better.

we wouldn't know would we? Most of these violent cities with mass incarceration have been ran by democrats for DECADES

Do Republicans tend to run on platforms of prison reform and criminal justice reform?

[Outer Acharet]

I really don’t see how Republicans would have changed the problem of mass incarceration for the better.

we wouldn't know would we? Most of these violent cities with mass incarceration have been ran by democrats for DECADES

To be completely fair a lot of the mass incarceration stuff is a result of the war on drugs and drug possession being severely punished with imprisonment and felony charges.

[Senkaku]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't eh? So if they do vote for democrats they can't complain but if they choose not to they can't complain.

Thats pretty faulty logic. I won't even go into how you backpeddled on your claim that systemic racism doesn't exist.

if you vote for your own "oppression" then you DESERVE IT

What do you think the thought process of a Black Democrat in Delaware in the 1990s voting for Biden was? “Oppression good me vote for him”? Do you understand the complexity of our political system and the factors that influence people’s choices within it? Come on lol this is just bad argumentation

you saying that voting shouldn't matter now? You want dictatorship?

please do better it’s getting boring

Nobody forced black people to vote democratic, if all black people voted for another party it would make a different but no, they don't, they keep voting D for decades and bitch about Republicans for Democrat policies in Democrat cities with Democrat mayors.

I did not expect “resentful screed abt how if the ungrateful blacks would just vote for us maybe their lives would be better” for this thread but I guess knowing NSG I should have

Who else would you have recommended “all black people” vote for since the end of Jim Crow?

[New Sriker]

-Whines about mass incarceration and a corrupt system

- Votes for the same two parties

-The government is an evil cartoon level racist organization but take away the guns and continue living here.


Wow you can’t beat that logic!

You good man?

[Nazeroth]

we wouldn't know would we? Most of these violent cities with mass incarceration have been ran by democrats for DECADES

To be completely fair a lot of the mass incarceration stuff is a result of the war on drugs and drug possession being severely punished with imprisonment and felony charges.

agreed, a huge part of which was the 1994 crime bill which Joe Biden LOVED and Kamala Harris used as a weapon

and now we get to watch them take knees in african scarfs

[Senkaku]

I really don’t see how Republicans would have changed the problem of mass incarceration for the better.

we wouldn't know would we? Most of these violent cities with mass incarceration have been ran by democrats for DECADES

What cities, what violence, what Democrats, what alternatives were available

You’re just throwing out tired media tropes with no real examples or substance to the argument, it’s just cliche after cliche

[San Lumen]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't eh? So if they do vote for democrats they can't complain but if they choose not to they can't complain.

Thats pretty faulty logic. I won't even go into how you backpeddled on your claim that systemic racism doesn't exist.

if you vote for your own "oppression" then you DESERVE IT

you saying that voting shouldn't matter now? You want dictatorship?

Nobody forced black people to vote democratic, if all black people voted for another party it would make a difference but no, they don't, they keep voting D for decades and bitch about Republicans for Democrat policies in Democrat cities with Democrat mayors.

And what have Republican candidates for mayor promised them? Do Republicans ever campaign in urban centers? No

They just tell their base how bad that are while totally ignoring them

[Nazeroth]

we wouldn't know would we? Most of these violent cities with mass incarceration have been ran by democrats for DECADES

What cities, what violence, what Democrats, what alternatives were available

You’re just throwing out tired media tropes with no real examples or substance to the argument, it’s just cliche after cliche

Democrats have held stronghold over many violent cities for decades, removing almost all republican opposition, they are currupt and no longer holding themselves accountable and with NO opposition they simply pat each other on the back and pass the buck.