Violence Outbreak in Kenosha WI

[Ifreann]

That won't stop cops from going around trying to execute people.

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I see the "He's no angel" crowd are already trying to justify an attempted murder.

Electing new district attorneys and sheriffs would go a long way towards reform

Not really.

[Neutraligon]

Since I took part in this thread, I can't act as a mod in it.

I never knew that was a rule.

Conflict of interest, I can shut it down for threadjacking or fixing quotes that break the page, but ruling on things like flaming or trolling is a no-no. Sometimes we do not realize we have taken part in a thread, and it becomes confusing when it is a megathread.

[San Lumen]

Electing new district attorneys and sheriffs would go a long way towards reform

Not really.

Why not? Mayors and city council along with county officials as well. The terms vary for county

[Slaughter None]

Wasn't there an active warrant on him?

[Neutraligon]

Wasn't there an active warrant on him?

Even if there was, that does not mean you shot him. You only shot the person if he is a threat to you or others right then and there.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Wasn't there an active warrant on him?

The police are always justified in shooting a man dead no matter what, right?

[Slaughter None]

Wasn't there an active warrant on him?

The police are always justified in shooting a man dead no matter what, right?

No, it is not justified always but if you have seen the footage and read the list of crimes he has committed, the very reason for his warrant (which was issued only last month).

[Major-Tom]

Electing new district attorneys and sheriffs would go a long way towards reform

Not really.

To some extent, Lumen is right. It's a small part of the equation in the sense that progressive DAs and Sheriffs can lay down expectations and policy for police officers and better enforce justice when police engage in senseless brutality.

[Major-Tom]

The police are always justified in shooting a man dead no matter what, right?

No, it is not justified always but if you have seen the footage and read the list of crimes he has committed, the very reason for his warrant (which was issued only last month).

Why does this matter so much to you guys? Why can't it just be "a man was shot point blank in the back seven times while unarmed by the men hired to protect and serve."

If you're already trying to explain why the victim was a bad guy, then it just shows where you guys really stand.

[Slaughter None]

No, it is not justified always but if you have seen the footage and read the list of crimes he has committed, the very reason for his warrant (which was issued only last month).

Why does this matter so much to you guys? Why can't it just be "a man was shot point blank in the back seven times while unarmed by the men hired to protect and serve."

If you're already trying to explain why the victim was a bad guy, then it just shows where you guys really stand.

Because Context matters, if you don't have the proper information you will have an incorrect conclusion.

[Major-Tom]

Why does this matter so much to you guys? Why can't it just be "a man was shot point blank in the back seven times while unarmed by the men hired to protect and serve."

If you're already trying to explain why the victim was a bad guy, then it just shows where you guys really stand.

Because Context matters, if you don't have the proper information you will have an incorrect conclusion.

??? The conclusion is that shooting an unarmed man repeatedly, with his kids in the car, is bad. I think that's a correct conclusion, regardless of this man's past, don't you?

[Slaughter None]

Why does this matter so much to you guys? Why can't it just be "a man was shot point blank in the back seven times while unarmed by the men hired to protect and serve."

Seems like that's your agenda.

[Major-Tom]

Why does this matter so much to you guys? Why can't it just be "a man was shot point blank in the back seven times while unarmed by the men hired to protect and serve."

Seems like that's your agenda.

My agenda of being anti-attempted murder, yes.

[Outer Acharet]

Why does this matter so much to you guys? Why can't it just be "a man was shot point blank in the back seven times while unarmed by the men hired to protect and serve."

If you're already trying to explain why the victim was a bad guy, then it just shows where you guys really stand.

Because Context matters, if you don't have the proper information you will have an incorrect conclusion.

This, I really don't agree with some of Slaughter's points but if that warrant was for a violent crime then the cops are going to be on edge about him trying to attack them.

The warrant wasn't for the sort of violent crime that would put someone on edge like that. Cops in this case were definitely in the wrong then.

[San Lumen]

Not really.

To some extent, Lumen is right. It's a small part of the equation in the sense that progressive DAs and Sheriffs can lay down expectations and policy for police officers and better enforce justice when police engage in senseless brutality.

Same goes for municipal elections and county elections. They have a big impact on the police

[Slaughter None]

Because Context matters, if you don't have the proper information you will have an incorrect conclusion.

??? The conclusion is that shooting an unarmed man repeatedly, with his kids in the car, is bad. I think that's a correct conclusion, regardless of this man's past, don't you?

Let's see what context does, ok?
Jacob Blake had an active warrant issued 7 July 2020 for Criminal Trespass to Dwelling a 3rd Degree Sexual Abuse and a Disorderly Conduct charge.

[Major-Tom]

??? The conclusion is that shooting an unarmed man repeatedly, with his kids in the car, is bad. I think that's a correct conclusion, regardless of this man's past, don't you?

Let's see what context does, ok?
Jacob Blake had an active warrant issued 7 July 2020 for Criminal Trespass to Dwelling a 3rd Degree Sexual Abuse and a Disorderly Conduct charge.

I know. I still don't understand the exact point you're trying to make.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the attempted murder of Blake is more justified (in your mind) because of his rap sheet? Because if that's not your viewpoint, then why try to bring it up as "context?"

[Slaughter None]

Seems like that's your agenda.

My agenda of being anti-attempted murder, yes.

If you are anti - murder you should also be against this and how can you come to the conclusion of "unarmed"?

[Outer Acharet]

My agenda of being anti-attempted murder, yes.

If you are anti - murder you should also be against this and how can you come to the conclusion of "unarmed"?

Because he didn't have a weapon.

Nor did he kill anyone, warrant was for- and I quote yourself-

...an active warrant issued 7 July 2020 for Criminal Trespass to Dwelling a 3rd Degree Sexual Abuse and a Disorderly Conduct charge.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

??? The conclusion is that shooting an unarmed man repeatedly, with his kids in the car, is bad. I think that's a correct conclusion, regardless of this man's past, don't you?

Let's see what context does, ok?
Jacob Blake had an active warrant issued 7 July 2020 for Criminal Trespass to Dwelling a 3rd Degree Sexual Abuse and a Disorderly Conduct charge.

And that warrants the public execution of this man in front of his kids how? Bear in mind that if this was only a warrant for his arrest no judge or jury has condemned him as guilty and thus he was for all purposes innocent.

[Slaughter None]

Let's see what context does, ok?
Jacob Blake had an active warrant issued 7 July 2020 for Criminal Trespass to Dwelling a 3rd Degree Sexual Abuse and a Disorderly Conduct charge.

I know. I still don't understand the exact point you're trying to make.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the attempted murder of Blake is more justified (in your mind) because of his rap sheet? Because if that's not your viewpoint, then why try to bring it up as "context?"

What do you mean "more justified"? A person with an active warrant who was not listening to the police and heading to his car, was shot.

[Major-Tom]

My agenda of being anti-attempted murder, yes.

If you are anti - murder you should also be against this and how can you come to the conclusion of "unarmed"?

Because they found no guns on his person or in his vehicle.

So, let me ask you again, is this attempted murder more justified because he has a rap sheet?

[Major-Tom]

I know. I still don't understand the exact point you're trying to make.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the attempted murder of Blake is more justified (in your mind) because of his rap sheet? Because if that's not your viewpoint, then why try to bring it up as "context?"

What do you mean "more justified"? A person with an active warrant who was not listening to the police and heading to his car, was shot.

No, I asked you, I'm asking you if you see it as more justified.

[Neutraligon]

I know. I still don't understand the exact point you're trying to make.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the attempted murder of Blake is more justified (in your mind) because of his rap sheet? Because if that's not your viewpoint, then why try to bring it up as "context?"

What do you mean "more justified"? A person with an active warrant who was not listening to the police and heading to his car, was shot.

So what you are saying is he was not an immediate threat.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I know. I still don't understand the exact point you're trying to make.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the attempted murder of Blake is more justified (in your mind) because of his rap sheet? Because if that's not your viewpoint, then why try to bring it up as "context?"

What do you mean "more justified"? A person with an active warrant who was not listening to the police and heading to his car, was shot.

"Publically executing people because of suspicion of any crime is totally fine."
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